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  • #341
  • Oct 22, 2006 1:09pm Oct 22, 2006 1:09pm
Quoting Hendrick
...I believe ttp://www.alpari-idc.com/ has endless demo-accounts.
That is correct. My personal concern was that since i will be opening my live EA-Only-account with xyz broker, i wanted to run the foward demo tesing on xyz's demo platform as i've read many posts suggesting that results may, and often do differ between brokers. I do use Aplari's feed on my non-EA MT4 to trade manually from as i'm just using the charts for TA and entering off the pricing from my live broker's trade station (which are usually within a pip or two anyway).

Cheers,
Thom

PS. Harry, guess you've got good job security cuz there are alot of us here rooting for you and Phoenix !
  • #342
  • Oct 22, 2006 1:44pm Oct 22, 2006 1:44pm
Hi Hendrik,

As I read your post I was very excited to read about the new features to be incorporated in the new Phoenix and I thought how much heart and soul you put into this EA, and how good Phoenix is doing in the contest then I got to the part where you said "and now a small critical remark" as I read I started to slink down in my chair feeling as though you were talking just to me and I thought, OMG, Hendrik thinks I'm just a taker, no contribution what a bum! That's really not the case because I respect and appreciate all your efforts. I'm just one of those quiet types. There are five or six threads in this forum that I look forward to reading everyday, this one is greatness. I'll try to chime in more often especially with results.

I have been running Phoenix 3 - 4 (2007) on two different live accounts albeit very small accounts. I'm doing it this way because I think demo results are skewed and do not represent true results. My intention was to post my results from last week by now but IBFX live servers are off-line and have been since yesterday which is really irritating. As soon as they get back online and I can access my results I'll zip them up and post them.(just noticed a new thread where some people cannot connect to IBFX after applying update 198 looks like I may have to reinstall)

Immensely Grateful
balancer
  • #343
  • Oct 22, 2006 2:19pm Oct 22, 2006 2:19pm
Quoting jalp
I will test Phoenix booster this week. I'll be back with the results.
This is not for the booster but 4.2.03

2 weeks statement
Phoenix 4.2.03
Broker: FXLite

All closed positions resume like:
USD/JPY 5 win 1 lost (+525.81)
EUR/USD 1 win 2 lost (-630.00)
GPB/USD 1 win 2 lost (-232.00)
USD/CAD 4 win 0 lost (+892.75)
EUR/AUD 5 Win 0 lost (+785.95)
AUD/USD 1 win 1 lost (-110.00)
GBP/CHF 2 win 1 lost (0)
EUR/JPY 0 win 2 lost (-636.76)
USD/CHF 3 win 1 lost (+163.70)
GBP/JPY 3 win 2 lost (-213.59)

Total: win 2368.21 lost 1822.35 diff: 545.86
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip Statement.zip   4 KB | 248 downloads
I just believe in... Peace and good Karma!
  • #344
  • Oct 22, 2006 2:31pm Oct 22, 2006 2:31pm
Well didn't need to reinstall...work is being done on servers. woulda been nice if they could let acct holders know via their own message system.
balancer
  • #345
  • Oct 22, 2006 3:00pm Oct 22, 2006 3:00pm
Howdy.
Some more test results. This time I've included 5 brokers. I've included the Detailed reports per broker twice. One is sorted by the time of the close of a trade; the other is sorted by currency pair.

The other file is the updated 'pair versus time' spreadsheet. This one includes the results from my FXDD account.

CU
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip Pairs versus time.zip   4 KB | 334 downloads
File Type: zip 5_brokers_until_2006_10_20.zip   105 KB | 355 downloads
  • #346
  • Oct 22, 2006 4:12pm Oct 22, 2006 4:12pm
Quoting piperwannabe
Well didn't need to reinstall...work is being done on servers. woulda been nice if they could let acct holders know via their own message system.
They said they would inform us from now on. NOTE they will be working on their live and / or demo servers the next few weekends. http://www.patricknouvion.com/IBFX/viewtopic.php?t=837
They have been telling me that they will get us back up by opening time which is only 45 minutes from now. We will see. It has been problematic not being able to print out my account history or view my open trades this weekend.
  • #347
  • Oct 22, 2006 4:55pm Oct 22, 2006 4:55pm
Quoting nvwine
They said they would inform us from now on. NOTE they will be working on their live and / or demo servers the next few weekends. http://www.patricknouvion.com/IBFX/viewtopic.php?t=837
They have been telling me that they will get us back up by opening time which is only 45 minutes from now. We will see. It has been problematic not being able to print out my account history or view my open trades this weekend.
This really sucks...I keep getting the "connect wav" but just common error follows then "no connection" I think they REALLY fixed them.

sorry if this is inappropriate place to vent this
balancer
  • #348
  • Oct 22, 2006 5:13pm Oct 22, 2006 5:13pm
Quoting Hendrick
Did a lot of experiments today to further developing Phoenix. I think I found a nice addition. Imagine this: as soon as the first trade (TP=42, SL=84) is a certain amount of pips in profit (say 32 pips) that will be the sign for to place a second trade in the same direction. But now with a TP of 100 and a SL of 100. I did some backward testing for this. Phoenix_5_Pure.htm with the usual settings and Phoenix_5_Double.htm with the second trade option and with a setting that closes a trade after 62 hours. Look at the difference.

hi, i am impressive for good backtesting, is phoenix_5 available for forward-test ?

best regards

giapel
  • #349
  • Oct 22, 2006 5:17pm Oct 22, 2006 5:17pm
Hi guys. I've been away for the past few days. When I came back CPU was at 100%... culprit was MS Outlook . Anyway, stuff was still working (but talking a long time) so I think it had no effect on P4 but I'm not certain. I also found the EA was not running on the GBPJPY chart . I've put everything back to normal now but take the results of thursday and friday for what its worth. Seems to have hit a few stops.

Anyway, North Finance statement as of 22 Oct 06. Starting equity $5000, current equity $5257. Forward testing pairs USDCHF, GBPUSD, EURUSD, USDJPY, AUDUSD, USDCAD, EURGBP, EURCHF, EURJPY, GBPJPY, GBPCHF, EURAUD with Pheonix_EA_v4_2_03 on M30 charts.
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip DS.zip   8 KB | 222 downloads
  • #350
  • Oct 22, 2006 6:35pm Oct 22, 2006 6:35pm
First 2 pages are closed trades, 3rd page is current float. I'll try to recap pos/neg pip totals later. I like the green color the most! will post acct #2 in a few...great job Hendrick!
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip acct 1 from start.zip   126 KB | 320 downloads
balancer
  • #351
  • Oct 22, 2006 7:04pm Oct 22, 2006 7:04pm
Quoting piperwannabe
First 2 pages are closed trades, 3rd page is current float. I'll try to recap pos/neg pip totals later. I like the green color the most! will post acct #2 in a few...great job Hendrick!
I'm not sure if you know about it, but it might be easier to save it as a "detailed statement" next time. To do this you right click in your account history window and select "Save as Detailed Report". It then generates an html page for you complete with an equity curve graph attached to the bottom. Not trying to sound mean, just trying to help.
  • #352
  • Edited 7:30pm Oct 22, 2006 7:20pm | Edited 7:30pm
Both files below are for the same live mini account. In the zip file I put the total wins and losses for each pair. The test has run for 2 weeks. I am using the latest preferred settings and 15min charts. The test ran 24hrs a day for the trading week.

The first week was great. Last week was poor. Things looked even worse before Thursday and Friday. Over all Phoenix is still ahead as far as pips are concerned. I plan to start a new test using only the most profitable pairs.
I am still trying to figure out how to use excel to determine the number of hours each trade was open.
Attached File(s)
File Type: pdf IBFXm Live 1006-1020.pdf   32 KB | 473 downloads
File Type: zip IBFXm 1006-1020 win-loss.zip   7 KB | 326 downloads
  • #353
  • Edited 7:34pm Oct 22, 2006 7:25pm | Edited 7:34pm
it doesn't sound mean and I do know how to save as a detailed statement but there's some other trades in there that kind of skew the graph but here it is anyway. Is it a pain in the butt the way I did it? Thanks for trying to help
Quoting Skyhook
I'm not sure if you know about it, but it might be easier to save it as a "detailed statement" next time. To do this you right click in your account history window and select "Save as Detailed Report". It then generates an html page for you complete with an equity curve graph attached to the bottom. Not trying to sound mean, just trying to help.
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip 10-22-06.zip   11 KB | 249 downloads
balancer
  • #354
  • Oct 22, 2006 9:17pm Oct 22, 2006 9:17pm
Quoting piperwannabe
it doesn't sound mean and I do know how to save as a detailed statement but there's some other trades in there that kind of skew the graph but here it is anyway. Is it a pain in the butt the way I did it? Thanks for trying to help
I'm not gonna lie, it was hard for me to understand your account statement in the format that you uploaded your results in. However, good to know that you already knew what I was talking about with the html report, and you're trying to help us out by trying to filter out out those non-phoenix trades with the pictures. Sorry if I seem abrasive.
  • #355
  • Oct 23, 2006 1:31am Oct 23, 2006 1:31am
Quoting jalp
This is not for the booster but 4.2.03

2 weeks statement
Phoenix 4.2.03
Broker: FXLite

All closed positions resume like:
USD/JPY 5 win 1 lost (+525.81)
EUR/USD 1 win 2 lost (-630.00)
GPB/USD 1 win 2 lost (-232.00)
USD/CAD 4 win 0 lost (+892.75)
EUR/AUD 5 Win 0 lost (+785.95)
AUD/USD 1 win 1 lost (-110.00)
GBP/CHF 2 win 1 lost (0)
EUR/JPY 0 win 2 lost (-636.76)
USD/CHF 3 win 1 lost (+163.70)
GBP/JPY 3 win 2 lost (-213.59)

Total: win 2368.21 lost 1822.35 diff: 545.86
Interesting results for the USDCAD and the EURAUD. Dropped them earlier, but seeing these results I think I was to hasty.
  • #356
  • Oct 23, 2006 1:35am Oct 23, 2006 1:35am
Hi Hendrick

I started Phoenix 2-3 on 13 October. Pairs are USDCHF, EURJPY, USDJPY,
GBPJPY, CHFJPY.

I had some nasty closes in GBPJPY (2) and USDCHF (2). The GBPJPY seems to do the worst of all.

I have trouble uploading zip files. Will try again...
  • #357
  • Oct 23, 2006 1:35am Oct 23, 2006 1:35am
Quoting VinceTheBeast
Howdy.
Some more test results. This time I've included 5 brokers. I've included the Detailed reports per broker twice. One is sorted by the time of the close of a trade; the other is sorted by currency pair.

The other file is the updated 'pair versus time' spreadsheet. This one includes the results from my FXDD account.

CU
Great Vince! For me these are excellent results to study. Thanks again!
  • #358
  • Oct 23, 2006 1:48am Oct 23, 2006 1:48am
Attached are my test results of Phoenix 4.2 for last week (the last closed trade is from today). I hope it will be better this week.
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip DSt_Ph_42_061023_1.zip   4 KB | 297 downloads
  • #359
  • Oct 23, 2006 1:51am Oct 23, 2006 1:51am
Hendrick

I use Camzip but I cannot get the thing to work as it should.

Can you suggest annother zip-program I can use?

Ben
  • #360
  • Oct 23, 2006 1:52am Oct 23, 2006 1:52am
Quoting Hendrick
When the new <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City> thread just started there were a couple of visitors that were very enthusiastic. I haven't seen these visitors lately. And that’s not surprising at all, because they are "the takers": People that are willing to try a new EA for a week and hops to another EA when the first one isn’t profitable within the first couple of days. Well, goodbye to them, we don't need them! And that's why my love and my gratitude goes to the regular visitors of this thread. They understand that developing a good Expert Advisor takes a lot of time. I hope you guys will continue your support for the coming time!<o></o>
We are here for the long haul, Hendrick. I got in the game somewhat late but am grateful it's here. I was showing my brother the contest and this post and he was really amazed! I will post my results soon and appreciate everbodys. I look at them. I really just started testing middle of last week and even added a few more pairs today. Have a good one!! (Time now to shoot a little pool at my bro's.)
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