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  • #5,121
  • Jul 25, 2019 7:26pm Jul 25, 2019 7:26pm
Quoting alula
This is kind of a stick in the spoke. I like OANDA and feel safe with my real money there, this FIFO update makes me want to move my account elsewhere. Is there a way around this? Maybe marty acts like previous releases where the second one is an increment instead of the same? or the ability to manually tell marty the price for each trade. Do not really like the idea of having a trade open without a safety net. https://oanda.secure.force.com/Answe...RySVgzdWJQNyJ9...
These rules will affect the TS's that include AddOn features, ie. Basket_Trader_TS, Cycle_TS, etc. Looking at those rules I believe if we avoid using Broker TP/SL setting in the DashBoard then the DashBoard should perform normally because the built-in TP/SL are hidden from the Broker, so it should conform to the rules of FIFO trades. Even if we use Broker TP/SL then I think it is still OK because we are taking the AddOn trades at different prices.

We can expect most of the bigger Brokers to start conforming to FIFO rules. More of an issue with Marty style trading is the maximum leverage, really we want higher the better like 400:1, but many of the bigger companies are now restricting that down to 100:1 or less.
  • #5,122
  • Jul 25, 2019 7:34pm Jul 25, 2019 7:34pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} These rules will affect the TS's that include AddOn features, ie. Basket_Trader_TS, Cycle_TS, etc. Looking at those rules I believe if we avoid using Broker TP/SL setting in the DashBoard then the DashBoard should perform normally because the built-in TP/SL are hidden from the Broker, so it should conform to the rules of FIFO trades. Even if we use Broker TP/SL then I think it is still OK because we are taking the AddOn trades at different prices. We can expect most of the bigger Brokers to start conforming to FIFO rules. More of an issue...
50:1 at OANDA, American restrictions are fierce. TradersWay at 1000:1 is fun to run burner accounts (kind of like going to the casino) but I would never put any large sum of capital into an unregulated account. Have you given Blueberry Markets a test run with the DB? I think they are in your neck of the woods. Unfortunately, they do not accept US citizens.
  • #5,123
  • Jul 25, 2019 7:39pm Jul 25, 2019 7:39pm
Here are the best and worst CycleV5 performers so far this week, most of my setups are still in profit with varying maximum DD, best about 200pips and the worst being nearly 6000 pips:

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I'll post a full report after trading completes for the week.
  • #5,124
  • Jul 25, 2019 7:52pm Jul 25, 2019 7:52pm
Quoting alula
{quote} 50:1 at OANDA, American restrictions are fierce. TradersWay at 1000:1 is fun to run burner accounts (kind of like going to the casino) but I would never put any large sum of capital into an unregulated account. Have you given Blueberry Markets a test run with the DB? I think they are in your neck of the woods. Unfortunately, they do not accept US citizens.
I'm not aware of BlueBerry Markets, but I will check them out, I have been testing on PepperStone and GlobalPrime Aus Brokers and OANDA international Broker. Most Australian based (ASIC regulated) Brokers still offer good leverages (500:1), how long that lasts we don't know.
  • #5,125
  • Jul 26, 2019 6:38am Jul 26, 2019 6:38am
Quoting JustUncleL
Here are the best and worst CycleV5 performers so far this week, most of my setups are still in profit with varying maximum DD, best about 200pips and the worst being nearly 6000 pips: {image} {image} I'll post a full report after trading completes for the week.
Here are my results from Cycle Trader V5 running 24 x 5 Sunday to Friday using H1 Cycle 2,1, 3,0 and 3,1 filtered by MA200 and a couple of daily Cycle 2,1 filtered by RSI 240/1 from the same day running on Asia and London opens. This followed on the idea from Matt to reset trades for each trading session which I believe we were exploring sometime ago with the early HAS setups. Would be very nice indeed if we could take the 1 to 3 baskets of @ 100 pips per day in a few hours on each market open albeit with a little more management overhead. Cheers
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  • #5,126
  • Jul 26, 2019 10:49am Jul 26, 2019 10:49am
Quoting fairtraderuk
{quote} Here are my results from Cycle Trader V5 running 24 x 5 Sunday to Friday using H1 Cycle 2,1, 3,0 and 3,1 filtered by MA200 and a couple of daily Cycle 2,1 filtered by RSI 240/1 from the same day running on Asia and London opens. This followed on the idea from Matt to reset trades for each trading session which I believe we were exploring sometime ago with the early HAS setups. Would be very nice indeed if we could take the 1 to 3 baskets of @ 100 pips per day in a few hours on each market open albeit with a little more management overhead....
And a further 2 drastically different results from parallel Cycle Trader V5 setups from today H1 Cycle 2,1 with RSI 240/1 and MA200 filtering; complete reversal of yesterday.
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  • #5,127
  • Jul 26, 2019 7:43pm Jul 26, 2019 7:43pm
My 24/5 testing this week without any Basket SL produced some good winners and some bad losers, first the losers:

H1 CycleV5 : All Pairs+RSI(240,4), Cycle(3,2) - this was a big loser with huge DDs (max 5831) it did make some recovery at the cost of some significant swap
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H1 BasketTrader_V9: All Pairs HASex(1,200)+SWGex(2,1,24) - started the week well, but failed for 4 days in a row although the DD was controlled.
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Now for the winners:

H4 CycleV5: All Pairs+RSI(1440,4) Cycle(3,1) - max DD was 191 with a reasonable profit of 306, with the last day failing to hit target.
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H1 CycleV5: All Pairs+200ema, Cycle(2,1) - good profit of 672 for the week, but max DD was over 800
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H1 CycleV5: All Pairs+200ema, Cycle(2,2) - profit OK at 441, but DD hit 838
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H1 CycleV5: All Pairs+200ema Cycle(3,1) - profit OK at 211, with a controlled DD of 422
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Conclusion so far is the Cycle(2,1), (2,2) still get fairly good profits, but their DD's can get a bit high. Cycle(3,1) still produces the most conservative DD's with the 200ema and RSI(1440,4) filters.
Next test run will probably add Basket SL and set all EL to the same value 75/40. I'm away next week, so my testing will continue again the week starting 5 Aug.
  • #5,128
  • Edited 11:33pm Jul 26, 2019 7:55pm | Edited 11:33pm
Here is also my pair grouping results for the 24/5, they all use the same Cycle(2,1)+200ema. JPY was a bit quiet, AUD+NZD and EUR been the most active

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  • #5,129
  • Jul 26, 2019 10:10pm Jul 26, 2019 10:10pm
Awesome explanation uncle

my similar set up of H4 Cycle V5 : All pairs plus RSI (1440,7,0) cycle (3,0) - max DD 189 and max equity 81
little tweaks and the result being similar DD but way different profit

have a good weekend all
  • #5,130
  • Edited 12:25pm Jul 29, 2019 3:58am | Edited 12:25pm
15 MINUTES CHART and 1Hour chart it give you this


Oohh GOD TODAY IS MY BIRTHDAY MORE PIPS TO MY LIVE ACCOUNT
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  • #5,131
  • Jul 29, 2019 10:30am Jul 29, 2019 10:30am
Quoting JojajoForex
15 MINUTES CHART and 1Hour chart it give you this Oohh GOD TODAY IS MY BIRTHDAY MORE PIPS TO MY LIVE ACCOUNT {image}
Which conditions do you open trades ?
  • #5,132
  • Jul 29, 2019 10:50am Jul 29, 2019 10:50am
where can I download the S9 CYCLE indicator, PLZ ?
  • #5,133
  • Jul 29, 2019 12:20pm Jul 29, 2019 12:20pm
Here is another sell USDCAD 1 HOUR AND 15 MIN CHART
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  • #5,134
  • Edited 2:39pm Jul 29, 2019 12:24pm | Edited 2:39pm
Here are today's Cycle Trader interim results using H1 with cycles 2,0 2,1 2,2 3,0 3,1 and 3,2. Unfortunately all of last week's profits and more have been wiped off in a single day with even the more conservative 3,2 cycle following suit in GBP downfall. Annoyingly seems the options are either not use a Basket SL (and have very deep pockets to cover the overhead) or just stick with 0.01 trading with confined parameters in hope of not facing more than 3 pairs heading in reverse direction. Alternatively forget using Marty.
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  • #5,135
  • Jul 29, 2019 2:18pm Jul 29, 2019 2:18pm
Only if you lesson the Market do what the market want/need.
Any strategy work if you lesson
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  • #5,136
  • Jul 29, 2019 3:07pm Jul 29, 2019 3:07pm
Quoting seller9
{quote} Version 4 never had that and version 5 just added the MA.
Hello Gene,

We haven't seen much of you lately on the forum; hope all is well.

I am still struggling to work out a long term winning strategy with Cycle Trader where a series of profitable trades are not hammered twice over by a one time loss whilst trying to control the setup through a measured Basket Stop Loss. I believe there were some discussions re changes to Add to Trade, triggering only in profit for instance. I also asked recently whether it was possible to introduce the option to auto terminate trades with candle closure on MA crossover but received no feedback, assuming it is either not logical or feasible. Would be good to know if you have plans or time to modify this TS with any enhancements that can help us reduce the heavy DD we can experience all too frequently.

Thanks
  • #5,137
  • Jul 31, 2019 2:40am Jul 31, 2019 2:40am
So I go away for a week and come back to this:-

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The GBP had been a problem child ever since Brexit - it is causing me headaches in my live accounts also.
Time to stop trading it until everything is back to normal, whenever that may be.
  • #5,138
  • Jul 31, 2019 6:30pm Jul 31, 2019 6:30pm
The basket closed itself on opposite trade signals at a significant loss, greater than the combined sum of all profits since I started testing this setup.
We all know this can (and will) happen with a marty type setup - it is only a matter of time. Sometimes you get lucky and have a good run of profits when you first start and then the inevitable happens. It is important to withdraw weekly profits at a minimum if trading live to prevent a compete disaster.
Or, sometimes you get unlucky and your very first attempt results in what has happened this week and your account is gone.
Time to tweak some settings, and eagerly await the next version which allows for addons when in profit, as well as the current (in loss) addons.

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  • #5,139
  • Aug 1, 2019 6:06pm Aug 1, 2019 6:06pm
I have decided to take the hit and close all trades.
Most of these open ones were trades that had opened as a result of a reversal signal, and again, most of them are in some significant DD.
If I find time over the weekend I will try and work on some different settings to open up the range further between the trades by increasing the ADR to at least 1.0.
Shame really - this had been working so well for the past couple of months.
Stats tell the story.....

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  • #5,140
  • Aug 2, 2019 9:38am Aug 2, 2019 9:38am
Dear Gene and traders.

Here is some results this week.

Existing v5 settings, which made a big profit, ended with Big DD.

So I changed the default setting so that Big DD does not happen.

There were not many trades, but it was a week of stable earnings.

I hope this setting will lead to continued profitability.

Best Regards.

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