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  • #7,381
  • Edited 1:29pm Jul 2, 2019 1:19pm | Edited 1:29pm
Quoting madboy
Ken said something about Value Levels in one of his videos recently,and also about some special offer Value Levels where big buyers and sellers usually trade.Is he refering to Support and Resistance zones or there is some other thing that escaped me in my 10 year non profitable forex adventure? .
Surprised to see you're still struggling MB. If something isn't working after so many years it's time to shake things up. You've clearly got an very good eye for analysing pairs, so it is probably just finding that missing price of the jigsaw.

Hit me up on PM and can see if I can help in any way.

I had a bit of a rethink this weekend on what wasn't working for me, and things are looking a lot better. My big problem was EU and GU and my reluctance not to look at better PA on other pairs. I was often going into battle with them on low volume days and grinding down my profits.

As for Ken. Is he still around? I used to have him on Skype but not seen him online for ages. Maybe he hit the block button on me.
  • #7,382
  • Jul 2, 2019 1:42pm Jul 2, 2019 1:42pm
A very tidy clean PA on GJ.. Totally missed this one but notice the D1 supply get hit and then the H1 zone and PA that formed (red arrows).

Looks like a slam dunk setup.

Hopefully going to start catching some of these moves from here without the shackles of GU and EU.
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  • #7,383
  • Jul 2, 2019 3:04pm Jul 2, 2019 3:04pm
Nice Confirmation Entry (CE) on the Euro............


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C-12, have you looked into the new Micro ES and NQ futures contracts?
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #7,384
  • Edited 4:03pm Jul 2, 2019 3:16pm | Edited 4:03pm
Quoting HiddenGap
Nice Confirmation Entry (CE) on the Euro............ {image} C-12, have you looked into the new Micro ES and NQ futures contracts?
Sure did HG. Unfortunately the maths didn't add up, but I definitely prefer the thought of trading on a proper regulated exchange with dom.

I'm current spread betting tax free at 0.5 per pip on EURUSD and around 0.9 on GBPUSD with zero commissions. How this will play out when I size up this account later in the year I'm not totally certain.

Then again hopefully I'll be trading more stuff on higher TF's than EU and GU by then.

Also I am for my sins married to MT4, with a whole array of custom chart and trade management indicators I've spend a lot of money on.
  • #7,385
  • Jul 3, 2019 1:53am Jul 3, 2019 1:53am
Quoting announ
join this ff forum from feb 2017 but never write any post in here hehe I just started trading this week...and start looking to this FF forum that have similar trading style with me...so here i am, please give me permission to learn from this thread... and this is my entry today in EG, {image} this is in EJ {image} and this in EU {image} Happy trading for ALL
Update :

EG was hit SL (didnt see news coming, and not looking for d1 chart)
EJ hit TP at 50 pip
EU still on going....
Keep Trading for Better Life!!!
  • #7,386
  • Jul 3, 2019 1:55am Jul 3, 2019 1:55am
Quoting C-12
{quote} Seems like you've picked this up pretty well. I was in the EU entry as well but pulled the plug on it due to wishy washy PA. Keep it going.
thanks's still learn and practice how to make best chance to OP...
Keep Trading for Better Life!!!
  • #7,387
  • Jul 4, 2019 12:55pm Jul 4, 2019 12:55pm
EURUSD
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Ahmad Hassan
  • #7,388
  • Edited 2:29pm Jul 4, 2019 1:54pm | Edited 2:29pm
Quoting AhmadHassan6
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Nice hold. Right off the D1 zone.

Had a real eye opener this week while watching the cross pairs.

I'd normally only ever considered cross pairs for D1 or H4 action only, but noticing some insane RR levels on lower TF's. Some you can catch with a D1/H4 trend.

There are tons of these little buggers showing up a daily basis. 5:1, 10:1, 30:1 RR zone trades popping up regularly. The main challenge is monitoring them and being aware as they arrive.

EU & GU have virtually ground to a standstill recently and patience is wearing thin... Trading just these two is not optimal for full time trading.

There's so much opportunity ripe for the taking, so there's no reason to be sat all day battling or waiting for no show setups.
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  • #7,389
  • Jul 4, 2019 2:56pm Jul 4, 2019 2:56pm
Quoting C-12
{quote} EU & GU have virtually ground to a standstill recently and patience is wearing thin... Trading just these two is not optimal for full-time trading...
"Do they hold or do they fold?"

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Today's GBP/USD was all about "point to point" trading.

In a way, this is exactly what a Supply/Demand trader would want to see: The market moving DOWN to find Buyers and UP to find Sellers by respecting Supply/Demand Zones.

Not only do we ask the question, "Do they (zones) hold or fold"? But also, "When they hold, do we get the valid type of price action upon which to enter?"
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #7,390
  • Jul 4, 2019 3:04pm Jul 4, 2019 3:04pm
Quoting HiddenGap
{quote} "Do they hold or do they fold?" {image} Today's GBP/USD was all about "point to point" trading. In a way, this is exactly what a Supply/Demand trader would want to see: The market moving DOWN to find Buyers and UP to find Sellers by respecting Supply/Demand Zones. Not only do we ask the question, "Do they (zones) hold or fold"? But also, "When they hold, do we get the valid type of price action upon which to enter?"
It sure was zone to zone but if anyone made money from that today I salute them.

GU is such a dirty piece of crap. Just watch it take out the highs tomorrow and get slammed..

Having said that we are in a D1 demand at some kind of HnS level. Looks ripe for an NFP ambush.
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  • #7,391
  • Jul 5, 2019 2:43am Jul 5, 2019 2:43am
I too am interested in trading futures with this or a similar method...
  • #7,392
  • Jul 5, 2019 3:21am Jul 5, 2019 3:21am
Quoting C-12
{quote} It sure was zone to zone but if anyone made money from that today I salute them. GU is such a dirty piece of crap. Just watch it take out the highs tomorrow and get slammed.. Having said that we are in a D1 demand at some kind of HnS level. Looks ripe for an NFP ambush. {image}
I like GU at least a little bit.
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  • #7,393
  • Jul 5, 2019 3:27am Jul 5, 2019 3:27am
Quoting MCFly
{quote} I like GU at least a little bit. {image}
Already had some shorts running and also steamed into today's engulfing.

Was quite surprised they didn't ambush those scrappy highs first.
  • #7,394
  • Jul 5, 2019 3:58am Jul 5, 2019 3:58am
Quoting C-12
{quote} Already had some shorts running and also steamed into today's engulfing. Was quite surprised they didn't ambush those scrappy highs first.
I was also short EU with tp 1.1250 but I closed the trade prematurely because I didn't want an open trade when news are near.
  • #7,395
  • Jul 5, 2019 12:15pm Jul 5, 2019 12:15pm
Quoting MCFly
{quote} I was also short EU with tp 1.1250 but I closed the trade prematurely because I didn't want an open trade when news are near.
I kept it a bit more open but had to sit through a few days of crap to bring home the goods on this.

Going to drain this spread betting account this weekend. It's only good for GU and EU.

Going to shift the cash to an account account that can better accommodate the crosses.
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  • #7,396
  • Jul 5, 2019 12:55pm Jul 5, 2019 12:55pm
Quoting C-12
{quote} I kept it a bit more open but had to sit through a few days of crap to bring home the goods on this. Going to drain this spread betting account this weekend. It's only good for GU and EU. Going to shift the cash to an account account that can better accommodate the crosses. {image} {image}
Great trades. I was busy during the news but when I came back I thought there were nice short set ups on EU and GU when the news came out. Have a nice week end.
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  • #7,397
  • Jul 5, 2019 1:03pm Jul 5, 2019 1:03pm
Quoting MCFly
{quote} Great trades. I was busy during the news but when I came back I thought there were nice short set ups on EU and GU when the news came out. Have a nice week end. {image} {image}
Yep it was very clean and all one way traffic. Not even an attempt to run over stops on the news output.

GU and EU look quite ugly from here..
  • #7,398
  • Jul 6, 2019 12:45pm Jul 6, 2019 12:45pm
Quoting C-12
You can flow with direction using SD. It doesn't always need to be reversals. ....
As always, C-12 is spitting nuggets.

A S/D Trader can opt to only trade in the direction of the prevailing trend, by only trading Buy signals in Demand Zones as the market trends UP, and only trading Sell signals in Supply Zones as the market trends DOWN.

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Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #7,399
  • Jul 7, 2019 12:10pm Jul 7, 2019 12:10pm
Another bit of PA (inside yellow box) I find extremely pleasing to my eyes.

Notice when price rolls over it is trapped and has no option but to get smashed to the downside.

The initial PA at the top was nice but that yellow box action was the slam dunk.

The M30 PA must be viewed in the context of what is happening on the H4 chart on the left.
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  • #7,400
  • Jul 7, 2019 2:19pm Jul 7, 2019 2:19pm
Quoting C-12
Another bit of PA (inside yellow box) I find extremely pleasing to my eyes. Notice when price rolls over it is trapped and has no option but to get smashed to the downside. The initial PA at the top was nice but that yellow box action was the slam dunk. The M30 PA must be viewed in the context of what is happening on the H4 chart on the left. {image}
My eyes are drawn to the PA on the H4 chart. Especially the confluence of two PA Short signals, the Fakey and the Fading Volatility Breakout (FVB) Pro.

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Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
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