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  • #121
  • Jun 19, 2019 11:33pm Jun 19, 2019 11:33pm
Quoting SwingMan
{quote} Nice, but some parameters are too large. Only for you and @Ced74 as the only user of the LazyBands, here is a new version "smLazyTMA HuskyBands_v1.1" {image} {file}
Hi SwingMan
Pretty thanks for your efforts and concerns
i think we are missing prices feature,if you think is possible and suitable please add it too
regards
  • #122
  • Jun 20, 2019 1:30am Jun 20, 2019 1:30am
Quoting mntiwana
...i think we are missing prices feature,if you think is possible and suitable please add it too
I have not tested the indicator yet, but I'll make some corrections soon.

What should one understand: 'we are missing prices feature' ?
  • #123
  • Jun 20, 2019 1:38am Jun 20, 2019 1:38am
Quoting Ced74
...My settings using medium and high/low on lower time frames on Candles and Renko are too low so this resulted in too much repainting so need to find other settings.
Hi Ron,
it is also possible that because of repainting, the indicator is totally useless ...

This is a thread about "Trading Discution" and we will test if the nice curves can also help in trading. Please test and report.
  • #124
  • Jun 20, 2019 1:44am Jun 20, 2019 1:44am
Thanks Swingman for your great work.

Will test your latest indicator !
  • #125
  • Jun 20, 2019 1:52am Jun 20, 2019 1:52am
Quoting LongBTC
...I'm testing your indi but the tests are going slow as the indi is very CPU intensive for me. What do you do with multiple indications of entries? And do you only close when the exit signal is drawn?
Hi Wim,
I think for CPU I would have a solution.

You have to interpret the multiple indication of entrys when they are in trend or in counter trend. It can be seen that it is more efficient to take the signals into account in the trend direction.

Closing trades when the exit signals come in is good, but there will be straight repainting signals in the flat trends.
For this reason it is also interesting to close the trades on counter signals.
  • #126
  • Jun 20, 2019 2:16am Jun 20, 2019 2:16am
Quoting mntiwana
... i think we are missing prices feature,if you think is possible and suitable please add it too
Hi @mntiwana,
thank you for your explanations in the PM.

The "HuskyBands" indicator is in the category Cycles or Envelopes. (@Parisboy can explain best, but please do not post the whole Envelopes encyclopedia).
We know that these are generally calculated with the median price, and I personally make another exception for the typical price.
The Highs/Lows in the indicator were taken into account by Husky's idea to take statistical into account the extreme price fluctuations.

All other prices features are interesting but not for this indicator. They will be suitable for other indicators or oscillators, but here the idea of price trends and the statistical deviations from the mean value would be lost.
  • #127
  • Jun 20, 2019 2:40am Jun 20, 2019 2:40am
Quoting SwingMan
{quote} I have not tested the indicator yet, but I'll make some corrections soon. What should one understand: 'we are missing prices feature' ?
All i means was "the applied prices" within property parameters but please forget it as i already explained if you dont think it suitable -

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  • #128
  • Jun 20, 2019 2:40am Jun 20, 2019 2:40am
Hello Swingman,

So i'm trying your latest indicator lazy HuskyBands.

And i found a problem, the bands are not updating in realtime, i need to change timeframe, etc.

But the TMA i s working and updating on realtime.

Thanks for your great work, the repainting is not too bad on this version.
  • #129
  • Jun 20, 2019 3:08am Jun 20, 2019 3:08am
Quoting albert666
...And i found a problem, the bands are not updating in realtime, i need to change timeframe, etc. But the TMA i s working and updating on realtime. Thanks for your great work, the repainting is not too bad on this version.
Yes, I know that now, and I'll fix that.

It would actually be important that the indicator can also be useful with repainting.
  • #130
  • Jun 20, 2019 3:12am Jun 20, 2019 3:12am
Quoting mntiwana
...All i means was "the applied prices" within property parameters but please forget it as i already explained if you dont think it suitable
OK.
Last night I also tested the combination of the indicator with HeikinAshi and it looks good.
  • #131
  • Jun 20, 2019 3:33am Jun 20, 2019 3:33am
Quoting mntiwana
{quote} All i means was "the applied prices" within property parameters but please forget it as i already explained if you dont think it suitable - {image} {image}
Hello,

Mntiwana, could you please share those 2 indicators you have on your charts (spearman and rsx) ?
Spearman especially looks good to me.
Thank you.

Swing Man, what you have here is very interesting, unusually interesting.
I have been following on the side lines (most of the time I don't even log in), and trying to deal with the repainting issue, but this is very interesting anyhow.
Thanks.
  • #132
  • Jun 20, 2019 9:07am Jun 20, 2019 9:07am
SwingMan it seems that there is some small bug with the trend filter.

If the trend is up (blue) then only buy signals should be allowed and vice versa for sell correct? So I have seen that sell signals are also displayed when the trend line is up (blue). Perhaps when the trend line is up then only buy signals are displayed and vice versa?

Even though the indicator is still repainting and the signals can disappear it can still be a valuable tool if used the right way. I look forward to the next updates. Thanks SwingMan.
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  • #133
  • Jun 20, 2019 9:41am Jun 20, 2019 9:41am
Quoting mrdfx
SwingMan it seems that there is some small bug with the trend filter. If the trend is up (blue) then only buy signals should be allowed and vice versa for sell correct? So I have seen that sell signals are also displayed when the trend line is up (blue). Perhaps when the trend line is up then only buy signals are displayed and vice versa? Even though the indicator is still repainting and the signals can disappear it can still be a valuable tool if used the right way. I look forward to the next updates.
Hi @mrdfx,
I am glad that you test the indicator ...

Actually, I did not intend to do a detailed description of how to use the indicator according to my ideas, hopefully there are many better ones.
My first name is George, and you know that most masters with the name George do not describe anything and are praised for that...

If you look closely at the posted chart, you can see in the lower window one of the best oscillators I posted.
Nobody used it, so I do not comment anymore.

The signals come exclusively from this indicator, and are drawn above/below the bands. You should put the Threshold on Band1 or Band2 etc. and see what happens.

Of course, signals can appear in the trend as you suppose, but also in the opposite direction when enough energy is available.
Because of your remark I will set a switch to turn off the signals in the counter-trend!
But, I also wrote that these signals in counter-trend can only be taken cautiously as trade entrys, but very well as trade exits.
  • #134
  • Jun 20, 2019 10:37am Jun 20, 2019 10:37am
Quoting albert666
Hello Swingman, So i'm trying your latest indicator lazy HuskyBands. And i found a problem, the bands are not updating in realtime, i need to change timeframe, etc. But the TMA i s working and updating on realtime. Thanks for your great work, the repainting is not too bad on this version.
If you search for Symphonie Autofresh then the indicator updates perfectly each new candle ..
when loaded to the chart
  • #135
  • Jun 20, 2019 12:09pm Jun 20, 2019 12:09pm
Master George,
What is the significance of the 'cloverleaf' signal pictured below? Sorry if you already explained and I missed it. My old eyes are not as nimble as they used to be.

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  • #136
  • Jun 20, 2019 12:18pm Jun 20, 2019 12:18pm
Quoting SwingMan
{quote} Hi @mrdfx, I am glad that you test the indicator ... Actually, I did not intend to do a detailed description of how to use the indicator according to my ideas, hopefully there are many better ones. My first name is George, and you know that most masters with the name George do not describe anything and are praised for that... If you look closely at the posted chart, you can see in the lower window one of the best oscillators I posted. Nobody used it, so I do not comment anymore. The signals come exclusively from this indicator, and are drawn...
Thanks George I will continue testing the indicator.

I have noticed that the indicator is not updating/refreshing itself, and only after switching to different time frames and then back again it will update and show current signals.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #137
  • Edited Jun 21, 2019 4:40am Jun 20, 2019 1:27pm | Edited Jun 21, 2019 4:40am
Updated version "smLazyTMA HuskyBands_v1.3"

I have eliminated the little bug when the bands are not drawn at the same time as the TMA.

The cause if the bands were not drawn, is that there are too few bars for the time frame!
Please compare on the same TF the version 1.2 and 1.3.

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  • #138
  • Jun 20, 2019 1:31pm Jun 20, 2019 1:31pm
Quoting clemmo17
...What is the significance of the 'cloverleaf' signal pictured below? Sorry if you already explained and I missed it.

Possible trend exit because TMA change the color.

See #Post 51
  • #139
  • Jun 20, 2019 1:42pm Jun 20, 2019 1:42pm
Quoting SwingMan
Updated version "smLazyTMA HuskyBands_v1.2" I have eliminated the little bug when the bands are not drawn at the same time as the TMA. {file}

At least for me, now the bands have vanished altogether.
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  • #140
  • Jun 20, 2019 2:00pm Jun 20, 2019 2:00pm
Quoting clemmo17
...At least for me, now the bands have vanished altogether.
In #Post 137 I uploaded the version again.

Please report if it works now.
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