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  • #1,281
  • May 10, 2019 4:49pm May 10, 2019 4:49pm
Quoting skyway
{quote} It was never about fighting and bashing. I can't help if others see it that way. Up to you. My word usage and sentence construct is clear. "Some are faster, some are slower, some will never get it." .....unquote
@skyway -- I know. You've been civil -- though annoyingly persistent...
  • #1,282
  • May 10, 2019 4:51pm May 10, 2019 4:51pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Great post. Gaps have been done, lets all move on. Nothing to see here. Next week I'm going to introduce a new indicator for those 'in the know'. It's called Rock on a string. It hangs up outside. If dry, trade long, wet trade short, has bird sh!t on it...ranging market. A great new addition to all threads and damn sight more accurate. In the meantime those investigating George's thread with an open mind, like Steve, have had their eyes well and truly opened.
@moodybot -- could you please share the source code...
  • #1,283
  • May 10, 2019 4:53pm May 10, 2019 4:53pm
Hi All, why not we go back into technical stuff, even this thread in trading system while the core is on how to develop tool that could help us gain 'precision' in entry and exit. Even I never talk with George directly, we PMed each others several times, So in general I know him.
Some of you maybe think that it is not possible to understand George Trading methodology without talking with George personally, but actually it depend on your base knowledge.

With trained eyes and long enough experiences in this market, by looking on George charts and explanations, you could get the 'essentials'. But in the other hand without 'well enough' base knowledge then talking with George personally several times only waste His valuable times and yourself.

The core is about entry and exit precision that will reduce your risk exposure and give you best seat when riding market movement.
Of course this is not something new, and George also not claim that this is new stuff. But maybe it is true that for many of you, this kind of way to look at market base on market mass psychological aspect could consider as new point of view.

Once again about entry and exit 'precision' is not so difficult to reach, just known your 'horse' (or 'camel' for George.. )
I also still learning and will keep learning about this 'precision trading'. and it seem I reach little success this week with clean sheet test account.

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NIH
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  • #1,284
  • Edited 6:15pm May 10, 2019 4:59pm | Edited 6:15pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @TopCover --A well, first you have to put up with 10 to 15 minutes of being lectured what a noob you are.

B And then @George goes into information overload mode showing you many examples. I don't recall details -- but the pictures remain in my head. This is not necessarily the way a session would go with someone else. He judges your level of trading experience and then tailors what he'll talk about based on that. My and his trading experiences are miles apart. He can't talk to me the way he does with @moodybot, @bluesteele,...
A) Used in the Army to break you , so that you integrate the fact that you are a piece of shit, a nobody, who worth nothing - effect is at least limited by the fact that you are not underfed, you do not suffer of sleep deprivation (could be if you try desesperately to find the gem in G. posts) and you are not physically isolated in a training camp.

B) Used to impress, imprint, establish competence and leadership - see "experts" on TV - you do not fully understand, but it looks serious, competent, credible.

C) Explaining details is dangerous - could endanger A and B by creating questions, even doubts and sometimes the worst opened contradiction which dissipates the magic.

The good point is that you do not have to send money.

You pay your fees differently : reputation, respect, admiration etc
  • #1,285
  • May 10, 2019 5:04pm May 10, 2019 5:04pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @moodybot -- could you please share the source code...
No probs....

Grab a magic rock or crystal with a hole drilled through it...
Tie to a 1.618 M piece of string....
Locate a tree with 2 lower trees either side...
Hang it onto a tree branch, top of the tree will do....
Look through the hole in the stone and line up the stone with all the other stones tied to all of the other tree's....now this is a secret...imagine a line connecting all of the stones together....see that tree that hasn't grown yet....now hang a stone on that imaginary tree....X marks the spot.....
In case of windy weather and all tree's bending in the same direction, do not climb the tree, until the news is over and all trees standing up right.

  • #1,286
  • May 10, 2019 5:07pm May 10, 2019 5:07pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} No probs.... Grab a magic rock or crystal with a hole drilled through it... Tie to a 1.618 M piece of string.... Locate a tree with 2 lower trees either side... Hang it onto a tree branch, top of the tree will do.... Look through the hole in the stone and line up the stone with all the other stones tied to all of the other tree's....now this is a secret...imagine a line connecting all of the stones together....see that tree that hasn't grown yet....now hang a stone on that imaginary tree....X marks the spot..... In case of windy weather...
Nice -- thank you. And what about the bird shit? How do I code that?
  • #1,288
  • May 10, 2019 5:14pm May 10, 2019 5:14pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} Nice -- thank you. And what about the bird shit? How do I code that?
Dead easy, on the imaginary string, hang some imaginary stones...throw birdshit, something will stick.
Perfect for all threads operating on Forex factory....George of course being exempt, he doesn't believe in 1.618 so no string to attach but he does look at the tree's, very carefully!
There is another indicator, the polished turd but that of course is subject to all manner of $4!t, charts, pdf's, youtube...
  • #1,289
  • May 10, 2019 5:20pm May 10, 2019 5:20pm
Quoting Nih98
Hi All, why not we go back into technical stuff, even this thread in trading system while the core is on how to develop tool that could help us gain 'precision' in entry and exit. Even I never talk with George directly, we PMed each others several times, So in general I know him. Some of you maybe think that it is not possible to understand George Trading methodology without talking with George personally, but actually it depend on your base knowledge. With trained eyes and long enough experiences in this market, by looking on George charts and...
155 consecutive winning trades is a huge achievement
My compliments Sir
Cheers
  • #1,290
  • May 10, 2019 5:33pm May 10, 2019 5:33pm
Quoting skyway
{quote} Hi parisboy, did you not get the details for dummies in your skype session ? I was hoping you and robots4me provide the beacon light on this thread.
And while Paris is knocking George, along with you Skyway.......
Here is your answer, the one you have been looking for.....
It nails it, exactly.


"Accuracy" is not the key point. It is secondary - within limits - meaning it is second, not first

You can use almost whatever "Envelope" you have on your Trading Platform at the exception of Bollinger Bands because it does not use fixed-width Amplitude

The core of the subject is to understand the Triad Envelopes System , (3 Envelopes), the relationship between the Time Parameters (256, 128, 32) and the Octave calculation, its contraction and expansion for the Price Parameter (amplitude of the Envelope)

Correct Scaling is the key
  • #1,291
  • Edited 6:02pm May 10, 2019 5:43pm | Edited 6:02pm
Quoting skyway
{quote} Hi parisboy, did you not get the details for dummies in your skype session ? I was hoping you and robots4me provide the beacon light on this thread.
I had no Skype session because when Moodibot invited me to talk to the King, as I am a noob, a lazy trader, in short a human, I send my Skype adress but unfortunately it lacked a letter. Let'say I was distracted.

May be I was affected by the fact that I could talk with somebody who had 40.000 hours + analyzing the market(s) , the manipulation and the manipulators and who flirts daily with 100 % trading success.

At that time I was benevolent towards MM etc but due to my error or my bad keyboard G. could not call me, I waited his call etc. then you know the film, we had this controverse, we entered indirectly in the spiral of agressivity. You know the story.

May be I missed something , may be the road towards 95 % trading success. (I am cautious)
  • #1,292
  • May 10, 2019 5:53pm May 10, 2019 5:53pm
Quoting skyway
{quote} You are wrong with this "knocking George" thing. Grow up. It becomes stale when repeated again and again.

Grow up, stale.... yes and you are repeating, again and again.
  • #1,293
  • May 10, 2019 5:56pm May 10, 2019 5:56pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @BlackStack -- what I meant is that 99 out of a hundred candles have minimal effect on my position (or my account). And, then, one candle comes along and not only kills my trade but takes a chunk of my account with it. ONE candle. That ONE candle had more affect on my account than the previous 99 combined. I think that would qualify as disproportionate.
If you don't mind me saying so, you are trading over leveraged.
  • #1,294
  • May 10, 2019 6:03pm May 10, 2019 6:03pm
Quoting Nih98
Hi All, why not we go back into technical stuff, even this thread in trading system while the core is on how to develop tool that could help us gain 'precision' in entry and exit. Even I never talk with George directly, we PMed each others several times, So in general I know him. Some of you maybe think that it is not possible to understand George Trading methodology without talking with George personally, but actually it depend on your base knowledge. With trained eyes and long enough experiences in this market, by looking on George charts and...
Good work NIH. Which indicators were you using (I'm lazy)? The string, rock, bird poop indicator is not working on MT4.
  • #1,295
  • May 10, 2019 6:43pm May 10, 2019 6:43pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Dead easy, on the imaginary string, hang some imaginary stones...throw birdshit, something will stick. Perfect for all threads operating on Forex factory....George of course being exempt, he doesn't believe in 1.618 so no string to attach but he does look at the tree's, very carefully! There is another indicator, the polished turd but that of course is subject to all manner of $4!t, charts, pdf's, youtube...
  • #1,296
  • May 10, 2019 6:46pm May 10, 2019 6:46pm
Quoting BlackStack
{quote} If you don't mind me saying so, you are trading over leveraged.
@BlackStack -- again, an exaggeration, to make a point. But you get the point I was trying to make, right?
  • #1,297
  • May 10, 2019 7:00pm May 10, 2019 7:00pm
Anyone who thinks they know how George trades from what has been posted...

Well you don't have a clue to be honest...

Love how the all knowing Skyway judges and others... When they simply don't know..

But iI must admit it's amusing to watch...

You bush league amateurs are comical.

Cheers
Old Blue hahahaha
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #1,298
  • May 10, 2019 7:16pm May 10, 2019 7:16pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} A) Used in the Army to break you , so that you integrate the fact that you are a piece of shit, a nobody, who worth nothing - effect is at least limited by the fact that you are not underfed, you do not suffer of sleep deprivation (could be if you try desesperately to find the gem in G. posts) and you are not physically isolated in a training camp. B) Used to impress, imprint, establish competence and leadership - see "experts" on TV - you do not fully understand, but it looks serious, competent, credible. C) Explaining details is dangerous...
@parisboy -- when I see there's a post from you I now cringe -- it's no fun. Always the same thing, yet no humor. I've seen some "movement" in others, but not you. At least @skyway does some bobbing and weaving to avoid getting hit. And, to his credit, he keeps changing his story. But not you. I get now that you will never change. Not that you have to -- it's just this thread is about whatever and I can see you will never be on board. So, what's the point?

I've also grown tired of the psychoanalysis (mine, not the MM's). Perhaps we'll cross paths on a different thread and can start over -- it just ain't going to happen here. Good luck with your thread...
  • #1,299
  • May 10, 2019 7:25pm May 10, 2019 7:25pm
Quoting skyway
{quote} Bluesteele, same reply to moodybot applies to you. It's boring. Move on. Enjoy your weekend.
You do not bring anything to a debate.
If it's so boring, move on, Paris has a great thread, just download the Pdfs, instructions, 10 books and a knitting machine.
  • #1,300
  • May 10, 2019 7:36pm May 10, 2019 7:36pm
Quoting Nih98
Hi All, why not we go back into technical stuff, even this thread in trading system while the core is on how to develop tool that could help us gain 'precision' in entry and exit. Even I never talk with George directly, we PMed each others several times, So in general I know him. Some of you maybe think that it is not possible to understand George Trading methodology without talking with George personally, but actually it depend on your base knowledge. With trained eyes and long enough experiences in this market, by looking on George charts and...
Hello @Nih98 -- yours is always the wise, calming voice -- thank you.

From my seat I don't mind the back and forth so much -- I guess I consider it part of the "process". There are a lot of experienced traders out there and most everyone has grown attached to a particular system or way of trading. So, of course, when something new or even controversial emerges there is going to be push back. Even in science, most significant discoveries encounter a lot of push back when they are first published because there are research labs around the world who have years invested in a different approach -- and it's too painful to even contemplate it might be wrong. When an adult has an investment in a way of doing something the mind won't let go. I think that in time -- with patience and some humor thrown in -- things will come together. I've seen it happen before.

That being said -- all this discussion has been very helpful to me since I try to read between the lines. When I first posted the other night about liquidity gaps I had no clue whether (a) anyone was interested, and (b) I was totally out in left field. I've since learned that people are intrigued and I'm sort of on the right path.

Consider this sequence of events:
Tuesday -- I'm introduced to liquidity gaps
Wednesday -- I write a simple indicator
Thursday -- I post about liquidity gaps and mention the indicator
Friday -- I'm one of the world's experts on liquidity gaps

So, over the course of 4 days I've gone from a "no nothing" to a "guru" on liquidity gaps -- only in forex...
That doesn't say anything about me -- I'm still a "no nothing". But it does tell me I'm not alone.
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