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  • #1,141
  • May 9, 2019 4:37am May 9, 2019 4:37am
Quoting robots4me
{quote} {quote} You say that sarcastically -- but you just hit the nail on the head. But to see that you would need to take two steps back and view things from a new perspective. Nearly impossible for an adult -- I know. {quote} Algebra distinguishes between nationalities? What is the equation in Turkey, y = mx + t?
Man,

I am guessing you must be having one hell of a poker face...
  • #1,142
  • May 9, 2019 4:54am May 9, 2019 4:54am
Quoting skyway
{quote} You will only know after 40,000hours. For the rest wait for the book. Except for the "chosen" few who expressly do see value in the writings, they receive live market mentoring.
@skyway as a sarcastic guy I expertly detect sarcasms when I see one.

You know my doubts about George and his "method" system" whatever it can be named, I have detailed my doubts on several posts.

But I have to tell you my experience.

I am involved in Analysis and Trading since 1972. At this time there was not a lot of possibilities for the "common investor". I discovered a financial newsletter published by a guy named Georges Ponge-Helmer. Yes , George , curious, a sign in the Stars ?

Anyway this french George was real good with the tools he used : Elliott Waves and Fibonacci. This George made terrific precise forecasts repeatedly. But we the dummies could not be so good. Unfortunately he died and his son continued his work for a time. But his son had not the same capacities, the same gift and produced forecasts and analysis which were not in the same league as before. And very quickly there was no more newsletter.

Then my observation is let'assume that there is something with our australian George. Some on his thread say that, let aside the hype, @robots4me told us the same.

The question is George's process, method, methodology, system , gift whatever you name it fully understandable, fully replicable ?
  • #1,143
  • May 9, 2019 4:58am May 9, 2019 4:58am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Chosen few....total bollox, you were offered as well as Paris to look at what he does. Both of you declined. That says it all.

First Stringer you misinform people . That is not true . I send my skype ID to George . He never contacted me.
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  • #1,144
  • May 9, 2019 5:07am May 9, 2019 5:07am
Quoting skyway
{quote} I have faith in robots4me, he will do a good job in due time. And, has it never get into your head that, like parisboy and everybody else who have declined, I have not found value in the writings ? Normally those who find value has very little to go on in the first place. Robots4me, I have to respond to a direct question. I always play fair.
Yeah, in that case, cut the rubbish until you do find out.
Chosen few, there is no chosen few.
  • #1,145
  • May 9, 2019 5:07am May 9, 2019 5:07am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} First Stringer you misinform people . That is not true . I send my skype ID to George . He never contacted me. {image}

I know. You said that you had messaged him, so I asked him.
He accepted, unless you have a different story he heard zero back.
Fist stringer...new one to me but you seem to have plenty of experience.
  • #1,146
  • May 9, 2019 5:15am May 9, 2019 5:15am
Quoting skyway
{quote} 1st stringer, it's glaringly obvious that you show a lot of "anger" judging from the words you use in many of your posts. Just saying...

oooh, 1st stringer now...hilarious...parisboy is a runner, same as you!
  • #1,147
  • May 9, 2019 5:23am May 9, 2019 5:23am
Hello everybody,
Could it possible to focus on the core business started here and you continue your school fight on PM, thank you
  • #1,148
  • May 9, 2019 5:25am May 9, 2019 5:25am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} @skyway as a sarcastic guy I expertly detect sarcasms when I see one. You know my doubts about George and his "method" system" whatever it can be named, I have detailed my doubts on several posts. But I have to tell you my experience. I am involved in Analysis and Trading since 1972. At this time there was not a lot of possibilities for the "common investor". I discovered a financial newsletter published by a guy named Georges Ponge-Helmer. Yes , George , curious, a sign in the Stars ? Anyway this french George was real good with the...
What method have you got ? I think your jealous of George. His a better trader than you and nobody goes to your thread.
  • #1,149
  • May 9, 2019 5:28am May 9, 2019 5:28am
Quoting skyway
{quote} Robots4me said it's impossible for adults to learn new things. Well, I've learnt !!! 1st stringer
He was quite correct. And you haven't.
  • #1,150
  • May 9, 2019 5:29am May 9, 2019 5:29am
Quoting skyway
{quote} 1st stringer, it's glaringly obvious that you show a lot of "anger" judging from the words you use in many of your posts. Seems like the job is taking it's toll. Just saying...
Skyway - the best we can do is to ignore First stringer and even to refer to George system , chat etc. We only have to ask @robots4me technical informations on how things works .

Otherwise @robots4me thread will polluted by fighting posts and this will lead to 2 solutions only :

- either @robots4me will be obliged to ban us
- or the thread will deperish most of posters not wanting to have to take one side or another.

I know that by heart because I had some years ago a similar experience. It is the way these guys work with dissenters, they do not tolerate even the slight nuance on what they post, only vigorous approbation

see my post 1041 and 1064
  • #1,151
  • May 9, 2019 5:29am May 9, 2019 5:29am
Quoting Pip-Miner
{quote} What method have you got ? I think your jealous of George. His a better trader than you and nobody goes to your thread.
Hole in one.
  • #1,152
  • May 9, 2019 5:30am May 9, 2019 5:30am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Skyway - the best we can do is to ignore First stringer and even to refer to George system , chat etc. We only have to ask @robots4me technical informations on how things works . Otherwise @robots4me thread will polluted by fighting posts and this will lead to 2 solutions only : - either @robots4me will be obliged to ban us - or the thread will deperish most of posters not wanting to have to take one side or another. I know that by heart because I had some years ago a similar experience. It is the way these guys work with dissenters, they...
Lol,,,,Runner.....
  • #1,153
  • May 9, 2019 5:38am May 9, 2019 5:38am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} @robots4me Then it is a process . Which process ? a) what is a liquidity gap according to George b) demonstrate that liquidity gaps as define aboveby george will get filled 98 % of the time ( check the probabilities) c) check that when they do get filled, the price reaches within a fraction of a pip d) then we have to define if it is tradable and how ? Can Dummies (at least most of them) replicate this process or George's discretionary experience has more influence on the results ? regards
@parisboy -- all good questions. I don't know the answers. For me a process is sort of analogous to growing up. Someone can not grow up for me -- I have to do it myself.

A process is different than spoon-feeding. Spoon-feeding is when it all gets handed to you.

I think this is where we differ. I'm perfectly fine with someone pointing me in a direction -- I'll go figure out the rest. For others, being pointed in a direction is not sufficient. They want their hand held the entire way.

Look it -- you're a gentleman and we both value the same things. My sarcastic remark is not directed at you personally, it's just that it's the same thing over and over.

I'm on board doing this over and over because I understand it's part of the "process" and I enjoy the social interaction. I understand that, as adults with many years of baggage, it is nearly impossible for us to change our perspective. If we were to have a discussion about politics -- can you imagine how impossible it would be for us to change the other's mind (assuming our opinions differed)? Same thing with forex -- it's impossible for adults to contemplate, let alone see, things from a different perspective.
  • #1,154
  • May 9, 2019 5:39am May 9, 2019 5:39am
Quoting skyway
{quote} I always ignore 1st stringer even with his provocations, that's his job. But I will not put him on ignore. I will not respond to his post from now on other than related to trading matters.
No, that's not my job.
You're here to bitch. That's all. No real input.
No loss to me.
Bye
  • #1,155
  • May 9, 2019 5:48am May 9, 2019 5:48am
Quoting skyway
{quote} You will only know after 40,000hours. For the rest wait for the book. Except for the "chosen" few who expressly do see value in the writings, they qualify to receive live market mentoring. That's the purpose of the thread.
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Except for the "chosen" few
@skyway -- that's a lie. I'll call you out on that one. How many times have you personally been extended an invitation? How many? You've chosen not to -- for your own reasons. See -- this is what the adult mind does. You've been extended an invitation many times, but since you've never spoken with @George the mind overwrites your memory to make you the victim. If truth and honesty and transparency are so important to you as you claim, then don't be such a hypocrite.

Since I used the word "lie" then one of the trolls will probably get me suspended (again). So, if I'm away for a few days that's why...
  • #1,156
  • May 9, 2019 5:56am May 9, 2019 5:56am
Quoting rosalieone
Hello everybody, Could it possible to focus on the core business started here and you continue your school fight on PM, thank you
Hello @rosalieone -- it's boys being boys. I do limit it from time-to-time and things tend to re-focus, but then someone lights a match and it flares up again.

As long as the posts remain short and someone doesn't try to impose their methodology, then I'm okay to let the drama play out a bit longer. You know, let the boys get it out of their system. And, who knows, perhaps at this time next month @skyway will have invited @moodybot to his birthday. I'm betting that will be the case -- we'll see.
  • #1,157
  • May 9, 2019 5:58am May 9, 2019 5:58am
Quoting skyway
{quote} Robots4me, again you are wrong. I use the word chosen with a different meaning than what you have in mind. By my meaning, the usage of this word is appropriate. I won't go into the details. Those who understand will. No lies. Shall we stick to trading matters, dogs and light banter pls ?
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Shall we stick to trading matters, dogs and light banter pls ?

But I like the drama. Well -- okay, if we must...
  • #1,158
  • May 9, 2019 6:16am May 9, 2019 6:16am
@robots4me, @skyway

reread my post 1064 about TRIANGULATION

A psychological hint :

The end result is called " Triangulation"
A and B "fight" together about and because of M and M observes and manages from far the relationship between A and B

That is the end result of George's manipulation.

@robots4me

notice that your thread was very calm , informative and technical as long as you and some other posters were on the suject GAPS. and not about "George"

Then TopCover wrote that he thinks that "George" is more or less a Fibonacci guy - his opinion : in my opinion the fib part is a key to what Geirge is doing. He probably doesn’t USE fibs because he has it nailed in his head

you answer I had a very nice chat with @George earlier this evening and Fibonacci never came up -- not even close

5 minutes later we were fighting
  • #1,159
  • May 9, 2019 6:17am May 9, 2019 6:17am
Quoting rosalieone
Hello everybody, Could it possible to focus on the core business started here and you continue your school fight on PM, thank you
Best post since a while.
  • #1,160
  • May 9, 2019 6:18am May 9, 2019 6:18am
Quoting skyway
{quote} Allow me one last comment. If you take the trouble to scan the forum carefully, you will get real evidence of the "lies". That's it from me.
@skyway -- that's one heck of a last comment. But, okay, you can have the last comment.
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