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  • Jul 30, 2017 3:45pm Jul 30, 2017 3:45pm
  •  BenDunk
  • | Additional Username | Joined Mar 2017 | 304 Posts
Quoting nullx8
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{quote} and this is why the winners don't post here
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Haa haa. I also have never found a professional winner which can make profit consistency and post here.
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  • Jul 30, 2017 10:31pm Jul 30, 2017 10:31pm
  •  nullx8
  • Joined May 2016 | Status: Canned-Tuna-Eater | 341 Posts
Quoting BenDunk
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{quote} Haa haa. I also have never found a professional winner which can make profit consistency and post here.
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thats because it becomes rather boring constantly defending yourself in front of the majority ..

while the same majority fails to realise that the majority also fails doing this .. (just like any other business actually) ..
not much different between forex or selling bananas on the Market
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  • Jul 31, 2017 1:08am Jul 31, 2017 1:08am
  •  GodfatherSam
  • | Joined Jul 2016 | Status: Member | 275 Posts
It all depends on the Market situation, there's no one who could make consistent profit, but atleast we can make more profits than the loss to maintain the balance.
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  • Jul 31, 2017 1:28am Jul 31, 2017 1:28am
  •  nullx8
  • Joined May 2016 | Status: Canned-Tuna-Eater | 341 Posts
Quoting Ryan420
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That exactly problem with slippage is used by large traders to move the market.
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yeah well .. this is a retail forum .. so hardly anyone here gonna "move" the markets

you will need a few million more lots to place in order to lure the market to get somewhere ..
btw, you not have to place the order, a unfilled Limit is moslty good enough (assuming you are funded enough to be able to fill it)

there is a reason why most brokers not allow you to buy more than 200ish indicies .. so you can't "move" markets at all .. even if you financially would be in the position to do so.
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  • Aug 12, 2017 12:07pm Aug 12, 2017 12:07pm
  •  DarrenLehma
  • | Additional Username | Joined Mar 2017 | 490 Posts
In this week, I made almost 240 pips! Basically, now I am trading without any particular trading target! I just trade according to the market opportunities! Previous week, my weekly return was only 130 pips!
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  • Aug 22, 2017 5:18pm Aug 22, 2017 5:18pm
  •  FPipster
  • | Joined Aug 2017 | Status: Member | 23 Posts
For my most recent strategies, it has been 3 months now i am steadily making 10-15% weekly.
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  • Apr 17, 2019 6:01am Apr 17, 2019 6:01am
  •  dayindayot
  • | Joined Jul 2018 | Status: Junior Member | 3 Posts
Comment to the doubters
Seen a reasonable number of threads discussing a similar topic and it just seems that some people or some minds cannot fathom what is possible given countless attempts to explain what can be achieved up to a certain capital limit. I am not going to comment on FX specifically, but will provide clear detail with respect to a specific futures instrument. The goal is to, thru extensive screen time, identify a method that is capable of providing a better than coin toss result where your losses are significantly smaller than your profitable trades. This sounds cliche and it is, and the trouble is that it is extremely difficult to achieve consistently week in and week out. So lets say that you have finally achieved this objective, thru thousands, or even ten's of thousands of hours screen time! This not a post to gloat about anyone's personal achievements, nor is it an ego driven reply to the thread. It is meant to highlight that unbelievable returns are quite possible, and quite possible on a consistent basis. The simple truth is that if you have reached the objective stated in this post then more leverage will magnify your returns exponentially, without risk of a blown account, If you have not reached that objective then account depletion is assured. I cannot speak for other traders but I can outline where I can achieve unimaginable returns, but ONLY up to a maximum trade or contract size, or for those trading FX lots. I trade bond futures. I trade this market because moves are orderly and predictable most of the time, and there is an excellent respect of proven supply and demand levels. It also allows me to keep very tight stop losses, yet still, week in and week out achieve a better than random coin toss on my trading. My average profitable trade is significantly larger than my average loss. This ratio has exceeded 4:1 for close to 2 years, which is essentially when I was able to achieve my stated objective. I allow simple mathematics to compound my account, trading as a day trader, consistently, with a regular fortnightly withdrawal! But it is important to set aside the parameters in which these results are possible. The broker I use allows a maximum position size of 50 contracts ( which is more than ample) before they no longer honor heavily reduced day trading margin. The reason for this is obvious, but does not seem to be obvious for the typical posters who come out of the woodwork and state that if you can achieve those results then you would be the richest person in the world in 1 year. It is physically impossible for the market I trade to absorb the liquidity provided and then limit order my fills if I was to exponentially compound my winnings and contract sizes in an ongoing fashion. So please try to understand and accept that the returns I will provide are limited to a certain account size and a certain contract size. Those of us who understand this, accept it for what it is, FOR THE MARKET THAT WE TRADE and have no need to take over the world's financial system. We are more than happy to sit in our home study, and trade within these parameters, and churn out a more than sufficient income. More to come!
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  • Apr 17, 2019 6:05am Apr 17, 2019 6:05am
  •  dayindayot
  • | Joined Jul 2018 | Status: Junior Member | 3 Posts
Let me extract just a sample of the results I am consistently achieving. Without going into my actual account size and contract position size, lets apply my results to a small futures trading account so we can apply the concept and result to what a beginning trader may start off with. So I am taking my trades and my tick results and applying that to a small trading account that started with 2,500 USD. I am going to share 6 weeks worth of trades, which provided a typical win percentage over the period, and also a very good win percentage period. I am going to show that with the correct approach to trading and a simple understanding of math, that it is quite irrelevant whether you hit 100%, or you hit 60% winners, you can still achieve hundreds of percent return in either case, and achieve those returns in what is commonly viewed as an impossible time frame for doing so. The problem lies not in accepting or understanding that this is possible, but the problem lies squarely between your ears! The only thing preventing anyone else from achieving the same results is the inability for your own mind to accept it. Here come the results. I am breaking up the results into blocks of trades over 2 weeks. So you will see trade results over 2 weeks, for a total of 3 time periods ( 6 weeks in total). I use two weeks because this is my measure of success, it is my measure of achieving a result, because I have always tried to ignore the commonly held belief that trading is and cannot be treated like a normal job providing a regular income. I pay myself fortnightly, so i measure myself at the end of every pay period. None of this is cherry picked, it represents the most recent 6 weeks. I would typically hit my maximum allowable contract size as determined by my broker, and by the simple physical limit of the bond market i trade within a month. So it is quite simply a rinse and repeat process. Each two week period starts with the same balance. From a starting balance of 2500 USD for the purpose of this post at the start of every two week period to the final balance shown at the top of each period. More to come.
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  • Apr 17, 2019 6:13am Apr 17, 2019 6:13am
  •  dayindayot
  • | Joined Jul 2018 | Status: Junior Member | 3 Posts
Period 1
12 31070
6 22908
12 19421
7 14227
10 11865
7 9088
8 7585
33 6109
8 3027

Period 2
4,5 16573
-2, 20 12969
13 8533
2, -3, 17 6119
-2, -2 4167
34 4699
-2 3 2582


Period 3
7 15299
-2 11 12722
-2 5 10329
-2 5 9558
11 8872
-2 10 6833
-2 -2 10 5623
19 4921
10 3152

27 days of trades in 6 weeks from March 1st to April 16th

Period 3
15 actual trades across 9 trading days, 6 losses, 9 winners, 60% win rate, loss of 12 ticks average 2
win 88 ticks, average of 9.78 ticks, total net ticks 76 ticks

Period 2
13 actual trades, 5 losses, 8 winners, 61.5% win rate,
loss of 11 ticks average 2.2, win 98 ticks average 12.25 ticks, total net ticks 87 ticks

Period 1
9 actual trades, no loss, 9 winners, 100% win rate, win 103 ticks, averasge of 11.44 ticks, net 103 ticks

You can see that regardless of the win percentage over the three periods 100%, 61.5%, and 60%, the return on starting capital is still hundreds of percent.
It is also quite clear that the commonly espoused comment that high return is automatically high risk is absolute hogwash.
I will close the discussion with a final parting word, a lot more is possible than what is currently perceived to be possible by virtually everyone.
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  • Apr 24, 2019 10:36pm Apr 24, 2019 10:36pm
  •  Butterscotch
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Is there any one who is having too much of money in return every week?
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  • Apr 25, 2019 4:12am Apr 25, 2019 4:12am
  •  GeorgeBaile
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Quoting Butterscotch
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Is there any one who is having too much of money in return every week?
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Too much means what? The amount varies based on the trader’s type and their background.
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  • Apr 30, 2019 10:22pm Apr 30, 2019 10:22pm
  •  Butterscotch
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Right, but I want to know if there any more money makers who are really earning very well so that they can live on Forex.
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  • May 1, 2019 1:59am May 1, 2019 1:59am
  •  MarkFxAnde
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Quoting GodfatherSam
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It all depends on the Market situation, there's no one who could make consistent profit, but atleast we can make more profits than the loss to maintain the balance.
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practical message you gave , even though there is no certainty in Fx market at all but of course it is possible to bring minimum profit than losses if we can make sure most powerful analyzing trading knowledge including real money management, otherwise not.
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  • May 1, 2019 1:59am May 1, 2019 1:59am
  •  nullx8
  • Joined May 2016 | Status: Canned-Tuna-Eater | 341 Posts
Quoting Butterscotch
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Right, but I want to know if there any more money makers who are really earning very well so that they can live on Forex.
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I live off trading since 15+ years (2011 with mainly Forex) plus I personally know a lot of other peoples that do so as well.

there is however no weekly number you aim for, your job is not to lose money! that is all that matters.
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  • May 1, 2019 2:52am May 1, 2019 2:52am
  •  BenDunk
  • | Additional Username | Joined Mar 2017 | 304 Posts
losing money in every sector if there is no discipline ,
Fx is tough business platform to bring regular profit than others
but this not means there is no chance to bring positive something,
just need to ensure all inevitable part of tradings including a good broker.
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  • May 1, 2019 12:36pm May 1, 2019 12:36pm
  •  mlawson71
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Quoting BenDunk
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losing money in every sector if there is no discipline , Fx is tough business platform to bring regular profit than others but this not means there is no chance to bring positive something, just need to ensure all inevitable part of tradings including a good broker.
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I agree, a good, regulated, reliable broker is the first step. After that all that is left is to get educated.
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  • May 2, 2019 3:10am May 2, 2019 3:10am
  •  JamesFaulkn
  • | Additional Username | Joined Mar 2017 | 205 Posts
can you please elaborate what actually reliable broker you know about ?
i always emphasis the importance of a right broker.
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  • May 4, 2019 9:40pm May 4, 2019 9:40pm
  •  AlexUndrP
  • | Joined May 2019 | Status: Junior Member | 1 Post
Was googling this “monthly returns forex” and found this long thread . Wanted to find if anyone do 10-15% consistently per month (in a average) and here everyone saying 80%, 50%-100%, 40% .....
just imagine you can do any of those numbers for 2 years constantly, what’s gonna happen?
80% - 24 month - starting account 1000$ .
1.3 billion bucks by the 24th month (of course you’ll decrease leverage atc...) ...
ok lets imagine for 2 year with return 40%
By the end of 24th month 3.2 Millions bucks....
if anyone thinking that numbers from 1000$ is real you can fck your self because it’s not possible .
10% a month it’s a huuuge return ! only thing you have a bit more on starting account to manage money for the living.
if anyone still thinking about 40% or more constantly don’t lie to your self and don’t waste your time - better go get lottery ticket.
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  • May 18, 2019 4:52pm May 18, 2019 4:52pm
  •  7Shun
  • | Joined Dec 2018 | Status: Member | 160 Posts
I think all all that numbers is just a lot of bravado and shit talk, sorry for being harsh. Your returns are real and good and sounds about right depending on the capital you investing in here. 10% weekly return is brilliant really. Post here your initial capital, I missed whole thread.
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  • Jul 14, 2019 9:48am Jul 14, 2019 9:48am
  •  auricforecas
  • Joined Sep 2017 | Status: Still a total mystery | 3,575 Posts
I would advise to use RETURN in combination of EXPOSURE or RETURN-DD (DrawDown)... They are locked together as are TIME-SPACE..
Making 10% return might be AWESOME or almost total shit... It comes down to how much did you EXPOSED/RISK to get it..
Remember, Madoff made "only" 10% return PER YEAR and he was regarded as one of the greatest mofo ever born... Because he did so YEAR AFTER YEAR..
with what appeared to be NO RISK

If you can make 10% per YEAR (year after year) with 0-5% DD, you could start checking the latest F-car inventories, because it is just a matter of time before someone calls you with some serious offer At 50% and 5-10% DD they will send LIMO for you... At 100% and 10% DD they will send you the JET, with the GOV agents...
because some returns, year after years.. are just statistical anomaly that lights RED and they check what is going on

Just pulled the example numbers out of... but you would get an idea... But in reality... FB* has a rule that at 10%+ (continual) annual return.. it is most likely a fraud
Just to give you a ballpark here. Also the timeframe is important... that is why I stated year after year... because we seem to have many wizards here, at least in the short-term... until the BUST comes along
Can you afford to take that chance?
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