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  • #141
  • Apr 26, 2019 11:58am Apr 26, 2019 11:58am
... by the way indicators supporting our PA indis...

was asking in a rsi thread about a modification of his mtf rsi indi, which alerts when rsi of current and higher tf s is going into obos zones

as a "heads up" that a turn is around the corner eventually. (Will not start the usual indicator hype, but can it be a weapon or not)

No answer yet, but I will inform you and show you how we "could" support the one or other trading decission.

Remember even rsi can trick you about obos zones, realy good in sideways market, realy bad in strong trending markets...but worth take
a look at it.
  • #142
  • Apr 26, 2019 3:44pm Apr 26, 2019 3:44pm
Quoting wolf300
{quote} Hi IceRice, good to see you back. I hope you are ok and not overwhelmed about many readers hoping for a dash indictor with our rules, a mtf version of the indis, a "click on - click of arrows and dots" on the chart and most of all the ultimate solution....our indi combined somehow with volume to a never fail indi.. Did I forget something ?? I am afraid to disappoint everybody, but the volume thing will not work, as volume in forex is never correct, you only get what your broker is throwing in front of your feet. What...
Yep, I'm still on board but have a busy time (as usual ) and can't be active here as I would like.
I'm ok and not overwhelmed with many requests of different indicator's improvements. I'm focused now on core of our idea to make signals accurate as much as possible. If we will obtain satisfying results, I will prepare extended version of indicator with bells and whistles

I know that forex is not centralized market and it doesn't have accurate volume. I read a lot about volume last time and see some publications that volume characteristic of bigger fx brokers is similar to volume of futures quoting on centralized markets like CME. I haven't made own tests yet but I think that this could be some tip.
  • #143
  • Apr 26, 2019 4:03pm Apr 26, 2019 4:03pm
That is realy good to hear IceRice !!

Ok, as I said, from time to time I point out to what the thread is about.


Check out posts 73, 86, 116 (v 04), and 130 as a short cut to what this is all about and trade right away with the indicators.
  • #144
  • Edited 4:47pm Apr 26, 2019 4:13pm | Edited 4:47pm
...Meanwhile IceRice is

away, working on different projects, here is a useful dashboard indi based on Vortex, which is already included as a filter in version 04 for current timeframe.

Vortex is also based on PA as you can see in post 116.

The pic shows how it can look like in a subwindow. (My setting is 9 and I am not waiting for D1 or W1))

Yellow arrow appears when all timeframes align and I think you know what that means using v 02 or v 04.

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  • #145
  • Apr 27, 2019 9:19am Apr 27, 2019 9:19am
Quoting wolf300
{quote} Hi IceRice, good to see you back. I hope you are ok and not overwhelmed about many readers hoping for a dash indictor with our rules, a mtf version of the indis, a "click on - click of arrows and dots" on the chart and most of all the ultimate solution....our indi combined somehow with volume to a never fail indi.. Did I forget something ?? I am afraid to disappoint everybody, but the volume thing will not work, as volume in forex is never correct, you only get what your broker is throwing in front of your feet. What...
Hey wolf,

Yes there are other readers of the thread, which can participate and post if they want to - it's a free therad and forum in a free world.
And so they can request other developments from the coders here, and it is up to these coders to accept what they want to develop.

Concerning your post, there is a reference to something I mentioned (click on - click of arrows and dots) which I specifically said I did not expected it developped, as I don't even know if it's possible - it was just me talking out loud of something that crossed my mind at that moment (I actually had never thought of it before).

But I did ask if it was possible to have the indicator in a separate window - if a coder here wants to do it, fine, if not, I can survive, after all I was already using, as I sad in my first post in this thread, the v02 rules in my trading (sometimes).

You see many request for the coders here? Well, you did it also, and with something (vortex indicator as a filter) that others don't think will add value...But nevertheless accept and discuss the contribution.

So others can also contribute, request, comment, and every coder is free to develop what they want or see as more suitable. And with time things can improve or not, some ideas may come back (or new ones added) and the coders and contributors may want other developments.
  • #146
  • Apr 27, 2019 9:40am Apr 27, 2019 9:40am
Quoting FxMachina
{quote} Hey wolf, Yes there are other readers of the thread, which can participate and post if they want to - it's a free therad and forum in a free world. And so they can request other developments from the coders here, and it is up to these coders to accept what they want to develop. Concerning your post, there is a reference to something I mentioned (click on - click of arrows and dots) which I specifically said I did not expected it developped, as I don't even know if it's possible - it was just me talking out loud of something that crossed...
I am realy sorry FxMachina,

if I hit you in a kind of way.

Unfortunately you did not see the comedy in my words (was thinking the funny emojis would make that a bit clearer)

Of course it is all free in a free thread in a free world and nobody said nobody can ask for a different idea in indicator.

If you are dealing with a overloaded or cluttered chart, then your idea to switch on and switch off is a good one, all good.



No need to start arguing like in 10,000 other threads where always is one or more person offended because of nothing.

Then, like humans nature is, it starts slowly to get ugly, very slowly, becauss miss-interpretation of some words are "drilling" day and night
and then it must be hit back to feel better... You know, that is human kind for thousands of years and will never change.

So again, no offense against your indicator idea, your problem with overload chart, no nothing.

I apologice if I stepped on your feet.

We should go on with this serious development thread and find ways for as much trading styles as possible.


P.S.: The comedy in the sentence I wrote to IceRice can be found in "... hoping for a dash indictor with our rules, a mtf version of the indis "

....those where my requests to him and was afraid it was too much asked...
  • #147
  • Apr 27, 2019 10:35am Apr 27, 2019 10:35am
Quoting wolf300
{quote} I am realy sorry FxMachina, if I hit you in a kind of way. Unfortunately you did not see the comedy in my words (was thinking the funny emojis would make that a bit clearer) Of course it is all free in a free thread in a free world and nobody said nobody can ask for a different idea in indicator. If you are dealing with a overloaded or cluttered chart, then your idea to switch on and switch off is a good one, all good. No need to start arguing like in 10,000 other threads where always is one or more person offended because of nothing. Then,...
Wolf,
I agree with you 100%.
No offense was taken, no apology was needed, but your words were good.
Yes through chats and forums emotions do not pass, and the communication loses (I did see the emoji and comedy in you previous post, but I also saw other things, that may have been a misinterpretation on my part, as you may have misinterpreted my post, which may sound harsher that I meant - I wasn't that upset!).
Yours is an excellent post.
Have a nice weekend.
  • #148
  • Apr 27, 2019 12:38pm Apr 27, 2019 12:38pm
I'm only trading this on the Daily. Besides TL & SR, I don't Believe a filter is necessary.
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  • #149
  • Edited 3:23am Apr 28, 2019 2:08am | Edited 3:23am
Thanks for sharing excellent idea. Trading always not 100% win. best trading indicator will win 80-90% trade win...
  • #150
  • Apr 29, 2019 3:55pm Apr 29, 2019 3:55pm
Quoting subraghu
Thanks for sharing excellent idea. Trading always not 100% win. best trading indicator will win 80-90% trade win...
You are correct subraghu,

we will get the best possible out of PA, no matter what
  • #151
  • Edited 4:15pm Apr 29, 2019 4:03pm | Edited 4:15pm
Hello all, hope you are good.

As you can see in the pic above from 4x2u con candles PA indis working. Thank you for the pic 4x2u

There are many, many ways you can combine our indis with. Finding an entry after a zig or a zag, finding an entry after a fractal ( current tf or mtf fractal)

Then following the move after zigzag entry /exit. Adding up trades, till you get hit..., add up trades as long sma 21 fits until you got hit, or find a early exit with v 01..

Here is a pic about the "counting method" I was talking about in post 133....(almost like the rythm of a dance...)


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I am sorry, the 123pattern indi is not free, but excellent. Just to show you one part of using v 01 and v 02 without filter (pic v02 only)

To make the chart nice and clean, just use zigzag. Here the zigzag line (white, appears, as you know most zigzag repaints until price reaches the spot marketmakers drive it) Any way, when you see v 02 changing direction AFTER zig and or break of the trendline of the last move....you got a nice entry with following dots in case you missed the trade, waiting for more security, that market had turned, or adding up like the name consecutive candles suggests...
  • #152
  • Edited 4:42pm Apr 29, 2019 4:28pm | Edited 4:42pm
Here is another way to use PA v 02 indicator.

Breakout. How often did you find a breakout, getting in after the breakout line, only to find, the run is 50% over and price turns (if it doesn`t show a nice trend)

Check out the next pic.

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And please don`t forget "the falling, or rising arrows" method, like lower highs in the downtrend, easy to spot by eye.

In this case it is not guessing it is proofing by marketmakers action, that price gets lower.
  • #153
  • Apr 29, 2019 4:35pm Apr 29, 2019 4:35pm
I don`t know if it is possible to code, but wouldn`t it be nice to get a "automatic trendline indi" modified to trigger alerts when

v 02 first time strikes after trendline break ?

Please share your ideas, what can be done with our PA indicators. Thanks.

4x4u īs picture about Support and Resistance looks pretty good.

What else...?
  • #154
  • Apr 29, 2019 5:16pm Apr 29, 2019 5:16pm
Some more variations to use v 02.

MTF Fractal (M30 on M15) combined with zigzag.

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  • #155
  • Apr 29, 2019 5:32pm Apr 29, 2019 5:32pm
Sorry last pic had to much red.

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  • #156
  • Apr 29, 2019 5:43pm Apr 29, 2019 5:43pm
Something to check out when sma 50 is used. As the old, very old trader told me,

some MA`s are respected by the marketmakers since many years. Check out the serious slope of the MA, very good momentum to the downside.

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  • #157
  • Apr 29, 2019 7:40pm Apr 29, 2019 7:40pm
Quoting wolf300
Something to check out when sma 50 is used. As the old, very old trader told me, some MA`s are respected by the marketmakers since many years. Check out the serious slope of the MA, very good momentum to the downside. {image}
Try it. no guarantees.
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  • #158
  • Edited 10:40pm Apr 29, 2019 10:17pm | Edited 10:40pm
OK here are my tests;

I have only had luck on the XAUXXX pairs.

The indicators are;
Consecutive Candles V1-02
Williams percentage at 100%
55EMA on the williams as a base line
Volume and Volatility

confirmation of a bar with a dot after an arrow and a close of the williams % below/above 55EMA and above/below 20/80 lines and must have a yellow or green line on the volume indicator

Close all trades of one direction when williams crosses opposite 20/80 line then look for new setups in new direction.

The Gold daily charts are from 2017 to present (XAUUSD has 6402 on it, this is the pip count from 2012 to present)

The second last chart is XAUUSD 5 min to show it working on a lower TF

Chris

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  • #159
  • Apr 30, 2019 5:09am Apr 30, 2019 5:09am
Too many bells and whistles, I think...
From the last 3 contributors (4xu2 maybe I'm being unfair, because I did not even download all those indicators and template).

I might be mistaken (and there is a good idea in these 3 last contributors), but it strikes me as this is getting into one of those threads where many people start throwing in lots of indicators to filter, to no avail.

I would not mind being wrong, and a good solution coming out of these ideas, but...
  • #160
  • Apr 30, 2019 5:42am Apr 30, 2019 5:42am
Quoting FxMachina
Too many bells and whistles, I think... From the last 3 contributors (4xu2 maybe I'm being unfair, because I did not even download all those indicators and template). I might be mistaken (and there is a good idea in these 3 last contributors), but it strikes me as this is getting into one of those threads where many people start throwing in lots of indicators to filter, to no avail. I would not mind being wrong, and a good solution coming out of these ideas, but...
I agree with you, to an extent. These indicators are TLs & SR. Because of my full time job I don't have enough time to manually draw my own. 30 minutes per day in front of my computer is all I can afford. Plus, these indicators is all I have used before Consecutive bars indicator was developed. So it has just enhanced my own method.
Trade what "Is", not what "If".
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