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  • #4,181
  • Apr 26, 2019 8:14pm Apr 26, 2019 8:14pm
Quoting alula
{quote} Exactly, in my other trading life I only trade 4H and 1D charts. There is something relaxing about not being glued to a scalp and being confident about your long term trade. That said after seeing those 5M and 15M results with the cycle, and not needing to have bars burned into your retinas from edging charts all night, I might change my point of view about time frames.
Personally I will stick to 1hr or more TFs, I have not had any sort of consistent success with any TS nor DB at lower than 1hr TF. In particularly CycleTS_v2 with Marty is very sensitive to major market moves at the lower TFs, which can be in your favor but I find generally not and any profits made are quickly wiped out within a few hours.

PS: However, it will be interesting to see if CycleV3 can change my point of view about lower TFs.
  • #4,182
  • Apr 27, 2019 4:39am Apr 27, 2019 4:39am
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Personally I will stick to 1hr or more TFs, I have not had any sort of consistent success with any TS nor DB at lower than 1hr TF. In particularly CycleTS_v2 with Marty is very sensitive to major market moves at the lower TFs, which can be in your favor but I find generally not and any profits made are quickly wiped out within a few hours. PS: However, it will be interesting to see if CycleV3 can change my point of view about lower TFs.
Here is Friday's closed result of my Cycle Trader v2 1/2/3/0 on H4 from Asia open to end of day gaining equivalent max equity @ 1500 pips with max DD @ 230 pips. Cycle Trader v3 is now loaded with DB 9.x and looking forward to our new round of testing next week. All the best everyone
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  • #4,183
  • Edited 11:03am Apr 27, 2019 8:09am | Edited 11:03am
Dear Gene and Traders.
I have brought some results.
In order to test the new version, the existing test version has been rearranged.
As I tested the new version, I changed some settings.
I hope it helps everyone.
I always thank Gene and all the traders.
Best Regards.

DB V9 H1_F60, Basket Trader v9_H4_SWGex_SMEe_RSIe_Add on 5_No marty.
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DB V9 H1_RSI Filter, Cycle Trader v2_H4_Cycle123_Add on 5_No marty.
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  • #4,184
  • Apr 27, 2019 10:31pm Apr 27, 2019 10:31pm
Quoting JimmyPark
Dear Gene and Traders. I have brought some results. In order to test the new version, the existing test version has been rearranged. As I tested the new version, I changed some settings. I hope it helps everyone. I always thank Gene and all the traders. Best Regards. DB V9 H1_F60, Basket Trader v9_H4_SWGex_SMEe_RSIe_Add on 5_No marty. {image} DB V9 H1_RSI Filter, Cycle Trader v2_H4_Cycle123_Add on 5_No marty. {image}
Good result, can you tell us what settings you used for the SWG, SEM and RSI? or were just the defaults used?
  • #4,185
  • Edited 6:11pm Apr 28, 2019 5:57pm | Edited 6:11pm
v3 in the works.
atr multiplier at 0.3, we'll see.
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When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #4,186
  • Apr 28, 2019 6:24pm Apr 28, 2019 6:24pm
news ...NFP later in week market usually ranges or works up or down to an inmportant level b4 treading water ...check your charts and decide ranges/lower tf/etc etc
  • #4,187
  • Apr 28, 2019 7:34pm Apr 28, 2019 7:34pm
I have just had a few trades open with the new Cycle TS v3.
It appears that it will place whatever number of addon trades you decide into your chosen ATR muliplier so if you choose 9 addons and your ATR multiplier is 0.5 and the actual ATR is 90 it will place an addon every 5 pips.
That is a very interesting way of deciding on how to place the addons - I like being able to change it because the scenario above is a little too tight for me.
Thank you for the update Gene - much appreciated
Also really like it that the TS does not place any pending orders which are likely to be cancelled as profit targets are hit etc.
Certainly keeps the monthly statements nice and clean.

Attached is a screenshot of EN which just triggered. I had already changed the default of 9 addons to 4 but left the default ATR multiplier at 0.5

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  • #4,188
  • Edited 2:39am Apr 29, 2019 1:57am | Edited 2:39am
hi p pop...not sure if u have the v3 marty quite right....if u have 0.5 atr etc and 9 etc it slowly reduces according to a formulae of ...0.5 atr for first 3 adders and then slowly reducing pro rata ie 0.4/0.3/0.2 etc for the next few.....see example ...example gbpusd is 0.5 x 9.we need to read rules on correct v3 post ..nb trade is late as per cy3 but just for example cheers and good luck to all this week.....nb...I note well that if u load v3 at add mart 0.5 x 9 etc enter trade and it looks abit tight u can just change / indy properties to maybe 1x atr and it will auto reload....a great feature...thanks again o mighty one...pps don't worry about your profit statement adds are hidden from broker etc..
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  • #4,189
  • Apr 29, 2019 6:26am Apr 29, 2019 6:26am
Hi Everyone,

Very early days in Cycle V3 and my 1H and 4H tests are barely off the ground however my 5M test that I continued from last week is doing well. It has closed 4 baskets so far and DD not looking to bad for 0.05 lot. I have noticed that the Add-ons are spaced a lot nicer so the overall open trades has been lower which is great. At one point I had all pairs trading with total trades of 72. As much as that is high, it is lower than what V2 would have been. I could also take the Add-On ADR out a bit more too. Currently Add-On ADR is 0.6.

I have also adjusted my EL and TP so will see if that helps or hinders. During the DD you will see it popped back into profit before going back into DD. That profit was a bit over $35 so that would have triggered my previous EL and then the trades would have closed out and started again. This could limit profit a little but might also leave you less exposed.

I was also thinking of adding in the ADR TP on the Dashboard. I was watching at the second or 3rd basket and noticed that GBPCHF was at $32+ in profit so if I had the ADR TP at about 0.6 or 0.5, this and some other trades would have closed in Profit and still contributed to the overall basket but opened that pair up to take some more trades either in the same direction or opposite direction should a signal have been present. Again this would help to limit exposure if pairs in profit are being closed out and building up the baskets and equity. I might start another test with the same settings but add in the ADR TP and see how it changes the results.

Anyway, fingers crossed for a good NY session and will see how this pans out in the morning

Matt

5M Test - Cycle 3, Add 6, ADR .6
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  • #4,190
  • Edited 12:05pm Apr 29, 2019 11:41am | Edited 12:05pm
one question i have is, let's say a buy was triggered, what if the price continued to go up and does not go down and trigger our add-to, (and the reverse for a sell), you will just have one winner instead of multiple winners for that pair?
When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #4,191
  • Edited 1:29pm Apr 29, 2019 1:13pm | Edited 1:29pm
Hi folks here are some results from today's Cycle Trader v3 all using Gene's default settings on M15 H1 and H4 starting shortly after Asia open Sunday evening with no SL/TP/EL. No in depth analysis of the charts as yet however overall:

- M15 generated a MAX EQ of 3300 pips after MAX DD of 750 pips with @ 150 trades at its peak by NY open
- H4 has slowed down significantly in EQ/DD since v2 and in need of more time to perform
- H1 peaking at 200 pips with DD of 30 pips with only 28 trades demonstrating a respectable ratio

Looking forward to continuing on with same daily setups throughout the week to determine any consistency, suitable position sizing and Basket ADR TP/SL EL.

Cheers
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  • #4,192
  • Edited 7:24pm Apr 29, 2019 3:19pm | Edited 7:24pm
Quoting fairtraderuk
Hi folks here are some results from today's Cycle Trader v3 all using Gene's default settings on M15 H1 and H4 starting shortly after Asia open Sunday evening with no SL/TP/EL. No in depth analysis of the charts as yet however overall: - M15 generated a MAX EQ of 3300 pips after MAX DD of 750 pips with @ 150 trades at its peak by NY open - H4 has slowed down significantly in EQ/DD since v2 and in need of more time to perform - H1 peaking at 200 pips with DD of 30 pips with only 28 trades demonstrating a respectable ratio Looking forward to continuing...
Great, my first day with v3 demonstrated similar results except I was using Basket EL and Basket SL/TP settings, some I closed down manually just before Forex day finished, but all posted some sort of profit and reasonable DDs. Only the 15m posted larger DDs and more trades open than the others, which is too much exposure for my liking. I'll post charts a bit later.

Update: Screenshots of my Cyclev3 test setups, still playing around with EL and SL/TP settings -

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  • #4,193
  • Apr 29, 2019 7:18pm Apr 29, 2019 7:18pm
Here is my results of my Basket trader setups, my HAS+SWG setup is the only one that did not post some sort of profit.

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  • #4,194
  • Apr 29, 2019 7:28pm Apr 29, 2019 7:28pm
[quote=davrock;12243863]hi p pop...not sure if u have the v3 marty quite right....if u have 0.5 atr etc and 9 etc it slowly reduces according to a formulae of ...0.5 atr for first 3 adders and then slowly reducing pro rata ie 0.4/0.3/0.2 etc for the next few.....see example ...example gbpusd is 0.5 x 9.we need to read rules on correct v3

Thank you davrock for clarifying that even further
I was aware of pending trades being placed closer together as they neared the max setting but did not know about the spacing formula.
This version seems to be a big improvement over v2 and we should be able to dial in some nice settings.
I am still on the H1, using 4 addons with marty.
Also using a basket TP of $250 and a timer close 1 hour prior to rollover, regardless of what the state of play is.
Gene - it would be a handy addition (if possible) to be able to automatically have the DB restart trading after a timer close, and when the 'new' trading session is open as per user settings.
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The DD was around 200 pips, max net pips around 540 and not once did I hit the max of 4 addons.
Closed for a profit of around $40.
Have reset for the day.
  • #4,195
  • Apr 29, 2019 8:23pm Apr 29, 2019 8:23pm
Quoting Pip Poppy
Quoting davrock
hi p pop...not sure if u have the v3 marty quite right....if u have 0.5 atr etc and 9 etc it slowly reduces according to a formulae of ...0.5 atr for first 3 adders and then slowly reducing pro rata ie 0.4/0.3/0.2 etc for the next few.....see example ...example gbpusd is 0.5 x 9.we need to read rules on correct v3 Thank you davrock for clarifying that even further I was aware of pending trades being placed closer together as they neared the max setting but did not know about the spacing formula. This version seems to
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Monday was a relatively quiet day, so the CycleV3 Addons were hardly tested, unless you were using the 15m TF. As for Auto-Restart after "Time Close", I actually would prefer no auto-restart after time close, I consider it in the same category as "Stop After 1" and I like to control when my DB starts again. So if Gene decides to make that available at some stage it really needs to be optional, same as the "Stop after 1" vs "Go For Profit" is optional.
  • #4,196
  • Apr 29, 2019 8:34pm Apr 29, 2019 8:34pm
Having fun with Cycle V3, nothing really to post and still wrapping my head around the new add ons. When I bump the Max add to trade to 11 there are still only 9 add on lines and the last two go from 8 to 11. I tried 999 and everything starts freezing I imagined 11 add on lines would be added, perhaps I am missing something.

Also cool results on the recent news, my 5M and 15M went crazy, my 1H only a minor change and the 4H was not effected. All makes perfect sense, was fun to watch happen and see results that were expected, makes me feel more comfortable about leaving the system alone for news events (especially on the 4H+) Though all my lower timeframes did profit (22-47) I guess I just don't like surprises.
  • #4,197
  • Edited 10:08pm Apr 29, 2019 9:13pm | Edited 10:08pm
it would be a handy addition (if possible) to be able to automatically have the DB restart trading after a timer close, and when the 'new' trading session is open as per user settings
re quote p pop....the dash does restart after timerclose etc ..u still have one option open on your 3 time options....but do you mean restart after manual close all{like u did} then wait till next time start to start over again could be a handy option.
quiet till red news thurs fed funds and Friday nfp...lower tf maybe the go till then...good luck.
  • #4,198
  • Apr 29, 2019 11:03pm Apr 29, 2019 11:03pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Good result, can you tell us what settings you used for the SWG, SEM and RSI? or were just the defaults used?
Hello JustuncleL.

I'm sorry for late.
Here is setting screenshot.(DB V9 H1_F60, Basket Trader v9_H4_SWGex_SMEe_RSIe_Add on 5_No marty.)
The rest things are the default setting.
Good luck.

Best regards.
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  • #4,199
  • Edited 11:24pm Apr 29, 2019 11:08pm | Edited 11:24pm
Dear Gene and Traders.

I have stoped cycle trader v2 to test v3.
See you next week with good results.
Good luck.

Best regards.

p.s Dear Gene.
I want to know what is Signal_Candle?
Can Anybody tell me what is this and How to use?


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  • #4,200
  • Apr 29, 2019 11:31pm Apr 29, 2019 11:31pm
hi j park...re signal candle ..ie….if cycle 3 shows a new signal..then the 1st candle it shows is signal 1 and it may enter a trade if u have sig 1 chosen...each candle after that is sig 2/sig3 etc and u may choose to enter on anyone u choose ...ie3....its regarded as a little bit safer but u may be late to the party/sometimes not as if it goes further south then new repaint signals may appear until you are entered on a new cy3 candle3 trade which would be by the ts rules a better entry..…roundabouts and swings....hope that helps.
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