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  • #61
  • Edited 3:40am Mar 22, 2019 12:44am | Edited 3:40am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Well, pardon me. I thought from reading your statements in the quote below that somehow you were an employee of a brokerage firm or some kind of associate if you were allowed to be on a trading floor and moved up through trading divisions. I'm trying to think who in the brokerage firms that I worked at wasn't an employee that could do a thing like that except maybe the outside auditors and the cleaning personnel. There were so called 'promoters' that were given warrants as payment to go hustle for new clients by like the title says promote...

You have absolutely no idea how I trade and continuously assume so whatever floats your boat. There are no contradictions in what I have said because I, unlike you, am not assuming. I did actually post photocopied employment contracts to prove it some time ago, but you don't deal in facts you deal in self-made assumption. I'm bored of talking to you it's like talking to an ignorant teenager. Better go back to your candles, which by the way will look different depending on the broker being used, but hey ho, its an Xmas tree strategy and it has fairy dust magic.
  • #62
  • Mar 22, 2019 6:23am Mar 22, 2019 6:23am
Quoting EcoTrader
{quote} You have absolutely no idea how I trade and continuously assume so whatever floats your boat. There are no contradictions in what I have said because I, unlike you, am not assuming. I did actually post photocopied employment contracts to prove it some time ago, but you don't deal in facts you deal in self-made assumption. I'm bored of talking to you it's like talking to an ignorant teenager. Better go back to your candles, which by the way will look different depending on the broker being used, but hey ho, its an Xmas tree strategy and it...
Lol. I wish I could go back to being an ignorant teenager.

So, since you are an authority, can I ask you questions about how to take advantage of news moves or are you pissed off now?

I'll ask some ignorant teenage questions and and shall see as a mature father if you can bring me to your level in the manner of the caring father that you are:

1- What are the top 10 0r 20 most important news events worthy of planning around?
2- What pairs are good candidates?
3- Do you do one pair impending its news or the crosses of it too.
4- All manual or semi or fully automated?
5- If manual, what is the technique?
6- If semi manual, what is the technique and what EA/script/indy do you use?
7- If all automated, what is the technique and what EA/script/indy do you use?
8- Do you only news trade or you find it after catching such big fishes, regular trading just doesn't appeal?
9- What is the best site/article ( in addition to your answers to above Q's) are helpful on the subject?
10- Any other info you like to throw in.

Thanks.
  • #63
  • Mar 22, 2019 7:10am Mar 22, 2019 7:10am
Markets do not change, only sentiments and risk appetite changes.There has been and would always be a bull candle and a bear candle, there would always be a trend and range, continuations and reversals
Read in between the price!!!
  • #64
  • Mar 22, 2019 7:39am Mar 22, 2019 7:39am
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since you are an authority

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I'll ask some ignorant teenage questions and and shall see as a mature father if you can bring me to your level in the manner of the caring father that you are

With disparaging remarks like this, you won't see me responding in kind. Best you stick to your Xmas tree trading system because the information you are looking for is beyond your scope of comprehension.
  • #65
  • Mar 22, 2019 7:53am Mar 22, 2019 7:53am
Quoting EcoTrader
{quote} {quote} With disparaging remarks like this, you won't see me responding in kind. Best you stick to your Xmas tree trading system because the information you are looking for is beyond your scope of comprehension.
lol. My trading is all automated. I have no need to strain my eyes reading nonsense news reports all day when I can kick back and enjoy margaritas. You go read'm boy.

Ps. I like xmas tree charts n indicators even though I don't really need to look at them.
  • #66
  • Mar 22, 2019 8:34am Mar 22, 2019 8:34am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} lol. My trading is all automated. I have no need to strain my eyes reading nonsense news reports all day when I can kick back and enjoy margaritas. You go read'm boy. Ps. I like xmas tree charts n indicators even though I don't really need to look at them.
Did I say I read news reports all day? you really need to stop interpreting like this

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Carry on playing with your automated toy, I am sure it's doing very well for you.
  • #67
  • Mar 22, 2019 8:43am Mar 22, 2019 8:43am
Quoting EcoTrader
{quote} Did I say I read news reports all day? you really need to stop interpreting like this {image} Carry on playing with your automated toy, I am sure it's doing very well for you.
You read some kind of tea leaf.
It obviously doesn't appeal to me.

It is automated toys btw and yes they do.
Bye.
  • #68
  • Mar 22, 2019 11:37am Mar 22, 2019 11:37am
Just to add to the thread for the sake of the subject, and not to continue the personal pokes. Markets do change. This is the volatility index showing the changes in markets that can destroy strategies. Above 20 indicates a high amount of activity and below it is considered quiet. Both conditions require different considerations for trading and risk management. It can be the difference between 50 pip average daily ranges and 150 pip average daily ranges.
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  • #69
  • Mar 25, 2019 6:04pm Mar 25, 2019 6:04pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} So what these people mean is that sometimes some strategies may stop working but they are not sure about that so they just repeat what they read someone smart say and now they say it to also sound smart.
Market changes there is no doubt.I got that expierance with many strategys.some time is good result and then its stops working
  • #70
  • Mar 25, 2019 6:06pm Mar 25, 2019 6:06pm
Quoting Cools81
{quote} wow. An intelligent post on ff. 100% the markets have NEVER changed. Only moronic price indicator sytems will claim they do to explain why there "strategy sucked.
LOL
  • #71
  • Mar 25, 2019 7:50pm Mar 25, 2019 7:50pm
Quoting ficibald
{quote} Market changes there is no doubt.I got that expierance with many strategys.some time is good result and then its stops working
Okay then, based on your experience, you are of that opinion. I'm not here to convert anyone. Best of luck.
  • #72
  • Apr 8, 2019 5:49am Apr 8, 2019 5:49am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I think you have to dig deeper than using that ready made EA. Have you tried 100? 500? How about 1000 of them? I think after your 1000th EA, you will see things differently.
I do not buy EAs.
  • #73
  • Apr 8, 2019 8:15am Apr 8, 2019 8:15am
Quoting KarolNowak
{quote} I do not buy EAs.
You're in luck then cause there are 1000's of free ones around.
  • #74
  • Apr 8, 2019 4:32pm Apr 8, 2019 4:32pm
Quoting calebfx
Markets do not change, only sentiments and risk appetite changes.There has been and would always be a bull candle and a bear candle, there would always be a trend and range, continuations and reversals
the markets are just one big auction: buyers will place their bid price and the sellers will place their asking price........that will never change......like you said, sentiments and risk appetite change........trend traders make profit for years and then conditions change - volatility drops and ranging starts - and those traders are looking at losses for that year...........they tell you the market changed.........and so what, what does it matter what you exactly call it........
  • #75
  • Apr 8, 2019 9:17pm Apr 8, 2019 9:17pm
Hey guys, I've been thinking about this question/s:

How much AUM could a fund manage before it reaches a limit to make substantial profits, 500bn, 1tn, 10tn, 100tn?

How big can the fund get before it has too much "control"?

Hopefully you guys have some good ideas...
  • #76
  • Last Post: Apr 8, 2019 9:56pm Apr 8, 2019 9:56pm
Quoting OutThere
I read here and there that no strategy lasts forever and if you have a strategy that works today, don't rely on it because conditions will change and your strategy will become unprofitable. I totally disagree. I'm strictly talking about currency trading here. So if a country's economy suddenly crashes and the general direction of their currency changes, that's not a market change. Currencies go up and down all the time. Even interest fluctuations in carry trade are part of what markets do and have always done. If someone has been shorting a declining...
I was working as a quant researcher in a pretty big quant fund, so from statistical point of view, there is something that we believe:

- For the crowd, there are limited strategies that we all use, trend-following, mean-reverse, statistical arbitrage (I am not talking about technical analysis ony, all can apply for both price-volume, macro-econ/fundamental or sentiments data).

- If a strategy works for few months, then because of "the Law of Large Number", many competitors will use the same approach (they may have different theory, but the positions are the same), so the signal will fade away (there is always limited opportunities for a strategy).

- Some market maker invested heavily in their Market Make system (system using to detect pattern in their order book) for stop loss hunting, so those strategies with stop loss will stop working after a while.

That is why funds invested multi-millions $ for their research departments to finding the new ideas (buy exclusive datasets, hiring Phd guys) to keep finding new strategy for current market (we called it alphas) to stay ahead of the crowd.

Market appetite changes from time to time, so keep researching, back-test, forward-test and applied the best ideas in different regimes of market are the best way to keep consistent profits.

All the best
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