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  • #761
  • Edited 8:16pm Apr 7, 2019 7:37pm | Edited 8:16pm
Quoting Exnav
We all are different personalities and trade our own way and own responsibility.
sure

I wasn't trying to start a debate or an argument but was simply suggesting no matter how different we may be in our personality and the way in which we perceive things triangle is a triangle aside from variations of the triangle you can get creative and call it something else "a unicorn , a slope 3, or a blackhole" and shout it to everyone else that its your own interpretation but the fact is no matter how you interpret the triangle if you've seen it right and not the shadow of the triangle which can get wiggly sometimes depending on where sunlight is hitting if we were given a paper and a pencil and draw what we've seen in essence it all should have a resemblance to "a triangle" there may be variations of course but if you show it to everyone else they should call it a triangle if they know what a triangle looks like. I don't think many of us actually have the slightest idea what a triangle looks like.That's all.

some of us calling a rectangle or even a circle a triangle.
and I truly do appreciate Jupiter, open up a good book and start reading if you don't know what a triangle looks like I didn't and maybe after reading 5-10 or 15 books and after seeing the triangle develop or form on our charts maybe then some of us may get a chance to understand fti teachings, or what Jupiter tried to show us what's possible. If you don't know what a triangle looks like in its original form improvisation is useless and meaningless. And I feel like that's what TAF is becoming full of people who are trying to improvise some of them don't even the slightest idea what a triangle looks like in its original form. But hey I could be wrong too, I've only been reading the thread intently for a year and a half!
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  • #762
  • Edited 10:00pm Apr 7, 2019 9:49pm | Edited 10:00pm
Quoting Piquant
open up a good book and start reading if you don't know what a triangle looks like
Really, really nice and clever. Well said.

I'm doing this reflection with a friend here, by a PM exchange.
Two years have gone since that skirmish of mine on TAF. Two damned years.
And this people are still there... with the same wrong mindset and attitude,
thinking about (wrong!) rescuing and DD.. how to win a Tsunami... how to hedge a loser...
instead of thinking how to have a right entry and follow a good a trend.

What can I do?
They don't want to see... they don't want to understand. Yes, it is scary. TWO YEARS IN THE SAME DARKNESS.

Your example, dear Piquant (yes, dear - all nothwithstanding ) is perfect and well fitting.
In no way it is possible to insert a triangle in someone's mind.
Maybe, if you are very very furious like me these days, you can bang that triangle on their skull...
but eventually, in any case it will not reach their mindset, their conscience, their heart.

I can show and indicate the right path and point to it, as fti did,...
but I cannot walk it in anybody's place, substituting myself to his personal will and effort.
Poor souls.
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  • #763
  • Edited 10:38pm Apr 7, 2019 10:26pm | Edited 10:38pm
In my post #57300 on TAF I was so “insolent” to talk about the coexistence of “two” fti... so to speak.
I used that “extremization” trying to be clear delineating scenarios.
Two different inclinations, I said.
Yes there are some (apparent) contradictions in TAF pages.
As there are in Gann's Books and writings.
As there are in my poor, infamous pages.

One must have education and experience to understand why and discern.
The Trader's life is, in fact, a contradiction... in itself!
We live inside Oscillations.
On the charts and in ourselves and in our lives.
Not always easy to find the correct balance.
But we need to.

But the point of arrival, the destination must be clear: there is only one right side of the market.


#57457 TAF concluded my defense of fti posts! fti's voice... not MY INTERPRETATION. (now I'm more than furious)

Quote, unquote...
"P.S. Last sentence...
I don't teach anything. Have nothing to sell. I'm not opening a Blog.
I'm only inviting to reflect on some – selected - fti posts.
He is the Teacher by mentoring (fill in my sketch by yourself!)
Study and study again. Try. Study again. Knowledge is power."
  • #764
  • Edited 11:32pm Apr 7, 2019 10:44pm | Edited 11:32pm
Quoting Jupiter
Two damned years. And this people are still there... with the same wrong mindset and attitude, thinking about (wrong!) rescuing and DD.. how to win a Tsunami... how to hedge a loser... instead of thinking how to have a right entry and follow a good a trend. What can I do?
This is why I did what I did.
Two journals of (attempted) maniacal Trend Following.
Only one mindset... Trend Stalking and catching.
Complete refuse to talk about skew and rescue.


fti's voice again. Hope not having to repeat it again

#1590 - You must NEVER be caught on the wrong side of a term trend. NEVER.
#2881 - Remember: never trade against “day trend” or “hourly chart trend” again. Not.... unless you are expert and can manoeuvre like one.

#813 - The direction of the trade is “non negotiable”: it has to be right !!!
#12558 - Only those diligent to think about it and practise can achieve the standards."



The diligent, prepared student must read and re-read post 2881.
There are one "or" and one "unless" that have to be carved in the deep of their PREPARED SOULS!
The others must buy some good TECHNICAL ANALYSIS MANUALS... but first learn to read plain English.

Franco
  • #765
  • Apr 7, 2019 11:11pm Apr 7, 2019 11:11pm
In the attached words that fti dedicated to me,
the prepared students could find something interesting to meditate on!

I see my mistake with fti. I deluded him.
But some people here can't be saved.
Slowly, dear friend?
Two years more?
No. I can't. Promised fullfilled. I did what I could.
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  • #766
  • Apr 7, 2019 11:41pm Apr 7, 2019 11:41pm
"Voglio trovare un senso a questa voglia..
Anche se questa voglia un senso non ce l'ha..."

"I want to work out meaning of this desire/longing ...
Even if this desire does not make sense ... "

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  • #767
  • Apr 8, 2019 12:05am Apr 8, 2019 12:05am
Quoting Piquant
{quote} sure I wasn't trying to start a debate or an argument but was simply suggesting no matter how different we may be in our personality and the way in which we perceive things triangle is a triangle aside from variations of the triangle you can get creative and call it something else "a unicorn , a slope 3, or a blackhole" and shout it to everyone else that its your own interpretation but the fact is no matter how you interpret
Dear Piquant,

I really don't know why you are addressing this text to me. If you hear me shouting, in fact I was not that smart and am not - I was whispering after a visit to a dentist. Did you see any exclamation marks or expressions like " I am furious", etc. from my end. I am doubtful that you have read my posts at all. Or, you read just what you had wished to see there.

If you don't even try to be correct in your wording, it's up to you. Just delete me then from your reading. I am eager to discuss substance and core of the matters but not your interpretation what I did or not.

I myself turn to trading and please forget about Exnav. That man is in your virtual imagination only.

P.S. If your post was not addressed to me but just the quotes of my previous post to you were used, I withdraw all the above written. That's a good exemple of the notorious "triangle" and imagines

Peace and trade safe.
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  • #768
  • Apr 8, 2019 12:08am Apr 8, 2019 12:08am
I would like to find a sense... but there is not. Each one is master of his own destiny (fti teachings, lol)


“What has happened in the past will happen again, and again, and again.
This is because human nature does not change,
and it is human emotion, solidly build into human nature, that always gets in the way of human intelligence.
Of this I am sure. “ - Jesse Livermore

“Markets are never wrong but opinions often are. “ - Jesse Livermore

“At these times, successful speculators must abandon their predictions and follow the action of the market.
Prudent speculators never argue with the tape. “ - Jesse Livermore
  • #769
  • Edited 12:32am Apr 8, 2019 12:12am | Edited 12:32am
Ah, Jesse. "Of this I am sure!"... great! Perfect.
But you must be able to read plain English to get the message... as I said.

Again... nothing more to demonstrate.
All is comprehensible. Someone is understanding well and so I am calm and serene. Thank you, my friend.

Now, I'll go to trade. Aiming at some good trends.
Frankie is here.
Hey, watch your money. I'm out there... ALWAYS on the right side!

Fix your mistakes.
Readly admit your errors.
Stop it, Franco. It is useless.
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  • #770
  • Apr 8, 2019 12:34am Apr 8, 2019 12:34am
Quoting Jupiter
Ah, Jesse. "Of this I am sure!"... great! Perfect. But you must be able to read plain English to get the message... as I said. Again... nothing more to demonstrate. All is comprehensible. Someone is understanding well and so I am calm and serene. Thank you, my friend. {image}
Hello Jupiter,

Rereading these text I understand that great people are driven on emotions mostly. Furious, angry... = intolerant for me. So, the extreme emotions drive an excellence in performance. That what I am lacking, that's why I am not excellent trader... One of the opinions, just.

Best regards,
Exnav
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  • #771
  • Apr 8, 2019 12:34am Apr 8, 2019 12:34am
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Or, you read just what you had wished to see there

we all do, and I suspect you did too.

shout wasn't directed at you personally I used as a metaphor as I said I'm a novice when it comes to fti I could be wrong too!

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I am eager to discuss substance and core of the matters

I tried. But I guess its leading to the same point , square 1.

I don't have a peace sign but there you go
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  • #772
  • Apr 8, 2019 12:40am Apr 8, 2019 12:40am
The more I learn about people, the more I love my horses. Bye.
Time to stop.
  • #773
  • Apr 8, 2019 12:41am Apr 8, 2019 12:41am
Quoting Jupiter
if you are very very furious like me these days, you can bang that triangle on their skull... but eventually, in any case it will not reach their mindset, their conscience, their heart. I can show and indicate the right path and point to it, as fti did,... but I cannot walk it in anybody's place, substituting myself to his personal will and effort
I am beginning to see some light and yes I am beginning to understand your stance (and your reactions as well positive or negative) and I've gotta tell you, you really have done all you could

"If you can't do it yourself just don't ruin it for others"

And I apologize "once again" for what happened on my journal.

I'll shut up now and open up some good books.
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  • #774
  • Apr 8, 2019 12:45am Apr 8, 2019 12:45am
Quoting Piquant
{quote} we all do, and I suspect you did too. shout wasn't directed at you personally I used as a metaphor as I said I'm a novice when it comes to fti I could be wrong too! {quote} I tried. But I guess its leading to the same point , square 1. I don't have a peace sign but there you go
Thank you for your reply and clarification. You are right. That's why I added the P.S. in my post.

Trade safe.
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  • #775
  • Apr 8, 2019 12:49am Apr 8, 2019 12:49am
Quoting Jupiter
The more I learn about people, the more I love my horses. Bye. Time to stop.
The other day one lady looking at my dog said that if we all were behaving as dogs we would all be happy in harmony and peace.
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  • #776
  • Apr 8, 2019 12:54am Apr 8, 2019 12:54am
I say stop... and they go on! What can I do?
You guys like to have the last word?
OK... yours.
Stop it.

Please, Exnav. You and your friends... stop it. For the second time in two years, all is clear.
We are going beyond the limits.

I have nothing more to say. Here or in your TAF club, on this matter. Case closed. Please. And please again.

Good trading to all.
  • #777
  • Apr 8, 2019 1:08am Apr 8, 2019 1:08am
Quoting Jupiter
I say stop... and they go on! What can I do? You guys like to have the last word? OK... yours. Stop it. Please, Exnav. You and your friends... stop it. For the second time in two years, all is clear. We are going beyond the limits. I have nothing more to say. Here or in your TAF club, on this matter. Case closed. Please. And please again. Good trading to all.
Jupiter, you are addressing me to stop on TAF. Did I express and explain plainly yet yesterday? Where can you see me still posting on TAF? And how can I dictate what other people should do? Or you suspect a sort of conspiracy on my end? OMG - my extreme emotions. Still learning the stuff from you. Thank you.

Well, let's turn to trading better.
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  • #778
  • Apr 8, 2019 1:44am Apr 8, 2019 1:44am
Oh God. Help me.
Quoting Exnav
Jupiter, you are addressing me to stop on TAF.
Where did I say that?

Stop with this topic!
Post what you want... where you want... but stop with this! It's ok? No?
What the heck have I to do?

I said it again. Impossibile to communicate. Not even at elementary level.
But then I go on TAF and I discover that phil13 has perfectly understood my intentions.
So?
Who is right and who is wrong?
Who does understand English and who doesnt?
  • #779
  • Apr 8, 2019 1:51am Apr 8, 2019 1:51am
You know what... I don't care a fig!
My scouts are correct and in green. STOP +1... free ride on!

Do what you want.
  • #780
  • Apr 8, 2019 2:05am Apr 8, 2019 2:05am
Scaling out. Banking some. Have a nice day, traders!
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