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  • #201
  • Edited 8:25pm Mar 3, 2019 7:56pm | Edited 8:25pm
Quoting George AUS
{quote} Howdy Mr A ,,,, It was ONLY BECAUSE ,,,, IT WAS brought to my attention about this debate happening here ,,, I must admit ,,, I do feel extremely privileged ,,, that some people would go to such depths trying to analyse George
Two choices Mr. George:

1) Would it be more helpful for me to continue the logical analysis of your claim on your thread?
2) Perhaps it would be more beneficial if I open a new thread completely dedicated to the analysis of your claim?

Which would you prefer?

Either prove your claim, or admit it was not true. If you put me on Ignore then we will take that as proof that your claim is false. There will be no further games. If you avoid after this, then I will pick a choice for you and proceed as outlined above. I will give you 48 hours to make a choice, or collect your evidence.

BTW - You can call me Mr. T
  • #202
  • Mar 3, 2019 8:27pm Mar 3, 2019 8:27pm
Quoting kenshin
{quote} Two choices Mr. George: 1) Would it be more helpful for me to continue the logical analysis of your claim on your thread? 2) Perhaps it would be more beneficial if I open a new thread completely dedicated to the analysis of your claim? Which would you prefer? Either prove your claim, or admit it was not true. If you put me on Ignore then we will take that as proof that your claim is false. There will be no further games. If you avoid after this, then I will pick a choice for you and proceed as outlined above. I will give you 48 hours...

Who ever you are ,,,,,

THE MASTER HAS SPOKEN IN HIS PREVIOUS REPLY TO YOURSELF ! ! ! !

NO FURTHER COMMENT ! ! ! !

Cheers,
George
LOVE YOUR GAME WITH A PASSION ,,,,, WORK WITH A VISION ! ! ! ! !
  • #203
  • Mar 3, 2019 9:55pm Mar 3, 2019 9:55pm
Quoting George AUS
{quote} Who ever you are ,,,,, THE MASTER HAS SPOKEN IN HIS PREVIOUS REPLY TO YOURSELF ! ! ! ! NO FURTHER COMMENT ! ! ! ! Cheers, George
moody,
it would be benefit to the lowly commoners if THE MASTER clarify one little fact;
that what meant on a hitrate isnt a 100% win per entry,
but perhaps more like 100% win per grids,
whereas the later carry an inherent chance of one very high loss if (or rather when) things for one reason or another miscalculated.

moody,
this is what i have to you to show. to understand what is the difference in understanding hit rate vs hit rate.
so what is my hit rate?
could this improved by holding indefinitely any set of entries?
if you would answer 'YES', that means deep down, you also think hit rate is the W%...most likely as the majority of traders do
if you would answer 'NO' that means for you hit rate is whatever it takes to get out from any set of trades as winner on balance...be that only the margin is the barrier to how deep one get into averaging, and wait as long as either stopped out or finally see some plus on the set of entries P/L.
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advance stuff: would all the above stand, would daytrading change some the odds, not carrying open trades/sets into rollover or weekend?

PS. moody, i writing something regarding a matter to your benefit mainly.
the way george narrate is post in a "funny" way doesnt much a help to him, and doesnt help the matter.
i am not into supernatural either, and the "universes sees it all" kind a replies not benefited Fractal for sure.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #204
  • Mar 3, 2019 10:19pm Mar 3, 2019 10:19pm
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} moody, it would be benefit to the lowly commoners if THE MASTER clarify one little fact; that what meant on a hitrate isnt a 100% win per entry, but perhaps more like 100% win per grids, whereas the later carry an inherent chance of one very high loss if (or rather when) things for one reason or another miscalculated. moody, this is what i have to you to show. to understand what is the difference in understanding hit rate vs hit rate. so what is my hit rate? could this improved by holding indefinitely any set of entries? if you would answer...

Hi PF/Ken

It looks as though Ken has challenged George, and in good timely fashion, Ken has offered to open up a new thread.
Where have we all seen this before. No need for a new thread Ken. George wont prevent you from posting, on the contrary, it looks like he is willing to participate in a debate with you on his thread.
''Why are we talking about redoktober? He never made a claim about his trading skill. Only George has done that?'' ....Correct Ken, but if you're going to ridicule George for using colour etc in his post, his grammar etc, just be mindful that there are other people who do the same, whether they claim to trade or not.

PF, Why not get all the info you need direct from the horses mouth and ask George directly on his thread.

Moody
  • #205
  • Mar 3, 2019 10:34pm Mar 3, 2019 10:34pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Hi PF/Ken It looks as though Ken has challenged George, and in good timely fashion, Ken has offered to open up a new thread. Where have we all seen this before. No need for a new thread Ken. George wont prevent you from posting, on the contrary, it looks like he is willing to participate in a debate with you on his thread. ''Why are we talking about redoktober? He never made a claim about his trading skill. Only George has done that?'' ....Correct Ken, but if you're going to ridicule George for using colour etc in his post, his grammar etc,...
the horse's mouth or THE MASTER?
( or combined to the and get the horse's ...other end?)
i think i asked you, moody, since you have a great understanding of this hit rate aspect.
the master's and pete's.
the question was to you, how do you understand the meaning of hit rate, personally?
( the problem lies with me, probably, not being an aussi nor a native english speaker, i dont care about george's answer to read if stick to the writing style he does; for the same reason i would not looking to skype call him. sure many find it entertaining...good for them).
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #206
  • Mar 3, 2019 10:40pm Mar 3, 2019 10:40pm
[quote=profitfarmer;12071475]{quote} the horse's mouth or THE MASTER? ( or combined to the and get the horse's ...other end?) i think i asked you, moody, since you have a great understanding of this hit rate aspect. the master's and pete's. the question was to you, how do you understand the meaning of hit rate, personally? ( the problem lies with me, probably, not being an aussi nor a native english speaker, i dont care about george's answer to read if stick to the writing style he does...

Ask George how he does it, then you’ll have the definitive answer, from George, but ask him in his thread.
He might even show you. It’s worth watching.
  • #207
  • Mar 3, 2019 11:20pm Mar 3, 2019 11:20pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote}It looks as though Ken has challenged George, and in good timely fashion, Ken has offered to open up a new thread. Where have we all seen this before. No need for a new thread Ken. George wont prevent you from posting, on the contrary, it looks like he is willing to participate in a debate with you on his thread.
I think it may be much more benefit to open a new thread, as that way I can filter all the noise from his followers and simply concentrate on George and his claim. Regardless of what I do, I would hope at that time that you could stand aside without an Ignore required and allow George to answer for himself, as this is a dispute between two people, not three.
Quoting moodybot
{quote}Correct Ken, but if you're going to ridicule George for using colour etc in his post, his grammar etc, just be mindful that there are other people who do the same, whether they claim to trade or not.
I will ridicule when I see the ridiculous. You, of all people, should realize this.

A funny cartoon is just that. Funny. Hell, if you can get a laugh out of me, then do it. I will laugh along with you. I am a firm believer in getting a good laugh, even if it is at my own expense.

Funny trading statistics? Nope, I'm not laughing, and so I will begin to ridicule it.
Easy way to shut me down? Just prove that them statistics aren't funny.
Why no-one has shut me down yet? Because I'm right, them statistics I'm making a joke about are funny.
Reason why funny guy with funny statistic doesn't admit his statistic is funny? Pride.

As for George's communication skills. Have you noticed...they seem to be good, until we ask about the claim. That's when he gets them crazy ranting posts going, seems he is happy to talk about everything except that claim. A coincidence or possibly something to hide?

Anyway I'll be back in two days.

Cheers for now.
  • #208
  • Mar 3, 2019 11:47pm Mar 3, 2019 11:47pm
Quoting kenshin
{quote} I think it may be much more benefit to open a new thread, as that way I can filter all the noise from his followers and simply concentrate on George and his claim. Regardless of what I do, I would hope at that time that you could stand aside without an Ignore required and allow George to answer for himself, as this is a dispute between two people, not three. {quote} I will ridicule when I see the ridiculous. You, of all people, should realize this. A funny cartoon is just that. Funny. Hell, if you can get a laugh out of me, then do it. I...

I suggest you ask him on his thread Ken. George placed his head above the parapet, why don't you. He doesn't need a second thread. he has one ready for you to comment on.
The problem with opening your own thread to me, and some say I might be a conspiracy theorist is that you then have the ability to block George if you're not happy with the outcome.
George wont wont block you though.
Enjoy your two days.
  • #209
  • Mar 4, 2019 1:12am Mar 4, 2019 1:12am
Ken/Pf

This is Georges charts, the green areas show Georges playgrounds.
Did George win or lose in these areas?
Just remember you do not know George's money management.
On every chart he has 100% strike rate since he has posted and well before that.

I know Pete's account. I know his figures. You need to contact him to find out.

https://www.forexfactory.com/attachm...1&d=1551489123

Ken, you said its almost impossible, almost.......you doubt yourself.
Speak to George....I can guarantee, that in less than 1 min you'll realise how much you do not know about trading.
I'm not taking the pi55. I'm being serious. Speak to him.

Moody
  • #210
  • Edited 1:35am Mar 4, 2019 1:15am | Edited 1:35am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} I suggest you ask him on his thread Ken. George placed his head above the parapet, why don't you. He doesn't need a second thread. he has one ready for you to comment on. The problem with opening your own thread to me, and some say I might be a conspiracy theorist is that you then have the ability to block George if you're not happy with the outcome. George wont wont block you though. Enjoy your two days.
I will try on George's thread, but please understand that his following gets upset and also try to deviate from the question when I have posted there, as you previously witnessed. This as the primary reason to use another thread, so that we can work together and keep the focus entirely on the subject. That claim.....prove or deny it. The primary reason George has not properly answered that question is because everybody else seems to want to answer for him. So, I want George to prove his claim, or admit it is a lie. Simple, really. Or perhaps, George's followers can prove the claim, or admit it was a lie. Equally simple as well. See, I am not holding the mirror up to George alone. He is just the person who made the claim, but I am just as happy if anyone can prove that claim, because, after all, there are many people who freely admit that it is true, aren't there? Surely one of them can take a few minutes just to prove that claim to be the truth.

You will just need to trust me when I say that I promise that I will not block George regardless of the outcome. I have always kept my word, and there has been no instance previously where you have had cause to doubt me. I will block any others though, if they attempt to obfuscate the question at hand.

Quoting moodybot
Ken/Pf This is Georges charts, the green areas show Georges playgrounds. Did George win or lose in these areas? Just remember you do not know George's money management. On every chart he has 100% strike rate since he has posted and well before that. I know Pete's account. I know his figures. You need to contact him to find out. {image} Ken, you said its almost impossible, almost.......you doubt yourself. Speak to George....I can guarantee, that in less than 1 min you'll realise how much you do not know about trading. I'm not taking the pi55. I'm being serious. Speak to him. Moody
Screenshot's after the fact do not count. We can all win in hindsight. Also, now you are saying 100% strike rate again. Can we get it clear what his strike rate is first. Regarding money management. It does not change strike rate, only lot size. You do not get to change the definition of accuracy with a change in lot size.

StrikeRate = ( WinningTrades / TotalTrades ) * 100
  • #211
  • Mar 4, 2019 1:34am Mar 4, 2019 1:34am
Quoting kenshin
{quote} I will try on George's thread, but please understand that his following gets upset and also try to deviate from the question when I have posted there, as you previously witnessed. This as the primary reason to use another thread, so that we can work together and keep the focus entirely on the subject. That claim.....prove or deny it. The primary reason George has not properly answered that question is because everybody else seems to want to answer for him. So, I want George to prove his claim, or admit it is a lie. Simple, really. Or perhaps,...

Ken. Take the plunge and send George a private message and speak to him. You can always stop the Skype call if you disagree.
Just have a blank chart ready.
Time frame pretty much your choice.
Listen to what he has to say. Then you can make an informed choice and then decide if you want to carry on with this exercise.

Moody
  • #212
  • Mar 4, 2019 3:52am Mar 4, 2019 3:52am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Thank you bfx17 Yesterday I had an epiphany and cleared the air with a long time (adversary). You know what, it feels good. There is obviously a great many more souls that need saving, other than mine, so if you can open up a new thread and show us all how it should be done then you will be a very popular man. Until then if all you can do is criticize or be negative you will always be the forgotten ......... So lets cut the fluff regarding what you did or did not meant. Tell me why George cannot achieve 100% hit rate? In your own words explain...
Hi moody,

I wont play this game with you, I don't see the point, really. Ken and PF already raised some very valid points, and I would add that underrated little thing called COMMON SENSE.

It is like we would debate if the perpetual moving exists (outside a vacuum) and, of course, you would say without any evidence that it would

I (continue to) believe that you are part of a team with commercial purpose and you are a sort of facilitator. We will see where it goes...

b.
On ignore list of scammers, deceivers and low IQ individuals. Exclusively
  • #213
  • Mar 4, 2019 4:25am Mar 4, 2019 4:25am
Quoting bfx17
{quote} Hi moody, I wont play this game with you, I don't see the point, really. Ken and PF already raised some very valid points, and I would add that underrated little thing called COMMON SENSE. It is like we would debate if the perpetual moving exists (outside a vacuum) and, of course, you would say without any evidence that it would I (continue to) believe that you are part of a team with commercial purpose and you are a sort of facilitator. We will see where it goes... b.
As I have said before, no team, no commercial purpose.
I have also raised a valid point...............speak to George and you will find this out, you will then see at first hand, common sense.
Just have a blank chart open.
All that you know about charting will take 5 secs, leave the rest to George.
Cheers.
  • #214
  • Edited 6:56am Mar 4, 2019 4:40am | Edited 6:56am
Quoting moodybot
Ken/Pf This is Georges charts, the green areas show Georges playgrounds. Did George win or lose in these areas? Just remember you do not know George's money management. On every chart he has 100% strike rate since he has posted and well before that. I know Pete's account. I know his figures. You need to contact him to find out. {image} Ken, you said its almost impossible, almost.......you doubt yourself. Speak to George....I can guarantee, that in less than 1 min you'll realise how much you do not know about trading. I'm not taking the pi55. I'm...
moody,

the truth is that both Kenshin and myself had posted some myfxbook or TE in the past, and even just today i included of image to you regarding hit rate.
maybe we could learn a lot just in 1 min...but then, maybe the same would apply in reverse?
do you think it is a possibility, that we have a decent understanding of what trading is about?
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #215
  • Mar 4, 2019 8:06pm Mar 4, 2019 8:06pm
Mr A Sir ,,,,

Pls allow me to share this Amazing Video for the Benefit of YOUR followers ,,,

I truly suggest that each person should listen to this video ,,, BUT ,,
THE MOST IMPORTANT PART I would like to bring to the table is ,,,,
WHAT COULD BE THE MOST VALUABLE 4 MINUTES WORTH OF INVESTMENT IN RULE NO 6 ( SIX ) ,,,,
Which starts at 12.45 into the video ,,,,
I believe the ONLY way people will understand where George is coming from ,,,,
CAN ONLY BE ACCEPTED ,,, WHEN
ONE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SAID IN THOSE 4 MINUTES ! ! ! ! ! !

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Cheer,
George
LOVE YOUR GAME WITH A PASSION ,,,,, WORK WITH A VISION ! ! ! ! !
  • #216
  • Mar 26, 2019 5:02pm Mar 26, 2019 5:02pm
Ahhh.

The air smells cleaner, the grass looks greener, the sky looks bluer, the birds sing sweeter, the …. well you get the picture.

Thanks to those that took time to get to know me better, much appreciated folks.

All the best to all

Pete


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  • #217
  • Mar 26, 2019 5:23pm Mar 26, 2019 5:23pm
Quoting TimeTells
Ahhh. The air smells cleaner, the grass looks greener, the sky looks bluer, the birds sing sweeter, the …. well you get the picture. Thanks to those that took time to get to know me better, much appreciated folks. All the best to all Pete https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKs2...ature=youtu.be

Welcome back Pete. truth prevails in the end.
  • #218
  • Mar 28, 2019 1:10am Mar 28, 2019 1:10am
Cheers MB,

You were a terrific support and a good friend, thanks mate

Pete
  • #219
  • Apr 18, 2019 7:20pm Apr 18, 2019 7:20pm
The Forum is not quite there yet ...

but maybe we are getting there


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  • #220
  • Jun 3, 2019 5:50am Jun 3, 2019 5:50am
Quoting TimeTells
Ahhh. The air smells cleaner, the grass looks greener, the sky looks bluer, the birds sing sweeter, the …. well you get the picture. Thanks to those that took time to get to know me better, much appreciated folks. All the best to all Pete https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKs2...ature=youtu.be
Hahahaha,

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