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  • #11,221
  • Mar 16, 2019 5:15pm Mar 16, 2019 5:15pm
Don't get me wrong...I like Divergence's method and it works for me. I also think he can trade, no doubt.
I only state the fact that he is not trading live in his videos, although he pretends to do so.

There is more than 1 video showing clearly this pop up proving that he is connected to a simulation server - if he would have switched back to "live" trading it would be seen in the log. The 1 hour in distinction from the start of the trading session can easily be explained by his time settings.

For me it is not okay to say "good day, I made 200 ticks - 1 k" when obviously trading on a simulation server...

I let anyone judge for himself...
  • #11,222
  • Mar 16, 2019 5:23pm Mar 16, 2019 5:23pm
Quoting Divergence
Funny, that thread was basically about trading larger 123's ... we weren't calling them that .... we were looking for trend changes: We'd trade the first break out to a higher high after a higher low, for example. that's my 2b setup no matter the name the pattern is there for all to see recognize these patterns and just exploit them

Here is a chart I posted of one of my trades back in 2009 in the SonicR thread exactly as I had posted it. That one did not even make it to my first profit target but you can see the resemblance to the 123 method.

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If I knew then what I know now I would have traded that very differently. But as we gain experience, we get better at spotting patterns, failed patters, and knowing what a failed pattern means.
  • #11,223
  • Mar 16, 2019 6:00pm Mar 16, 2019 6:00pm
Quoting Olarion1975
Don't get me wrong...I like Divergence's method and it works for me. I also think he can trade, no doubt. I only state the fact that he is not trading live in his videos, although he pretends to do so. There is more than 1 video showing clearly this pop up proving that he is connected to a simulation server - if he would have switched back to "live" trading it would be seen in the log. The 1 hour in distinction from the start of the trading session can easily be explained by his time settings. For me it is not okay to say "good day, I made 200 ticks...
again I don't know why that thing popped. whether live or sim the setup works so you be the judge I ain't selling nothing if you want to buy something go over to fxcyborg thread
  • #11,224
  • Mar 16, 2019 6:04pm Mar 16, 2019 6:04pm
Quoting Divergence
{quote} again I don't know why that thing popped. whether live or sim the setup works so you be the judge I ain't selling nothing if you want to buy something go over to fxcyborg thread
Exactly!
  • #11,225
  • Mar 16, 2019 6:08pm Mar 16, 2019 6:08pm
Quoting onejester
The setups work if you have the patience and discipline to implement them (since we are on the subject of facts).
Lack of Patience and Discipline is often the one thing standing between easy money and a blown account. I know back in the day when I lacked one or the other or both I could easily wipe out half a small account in a week or so.
  • #11,226
  • Mar 16, 2019 6:34pm Mar 16, 2019 6:34pm
Doesnt Sierra always show blue text for demo/simulation and white text for live? The pop up shouldn't matter right?

I think the accusation that divergence is selling is a funny joke. This method like he said has been around forever, you don't need to pay to learn this. He's making these videos to walk you through it

BTW You need at least 1000 subs and avg 100k views on YouTube to make decent money. Divergence is not even close so we can rule that commercial avenue out lol
  • #11,227
  • Mar 16, 2019 6:37pm Mar 16, 2019 6:37pm
full disclosure I do have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell real cheap anyone interested?
  • #11,228
  • Mar 16, 2019 6:39pm Mar 16, 2019 6:39pm
Quoting ddaytrader
{quote} He's just another FF sore loser, Divergence. He wants a "Gotcha!" ... I had PM'd him asking him to delete the post and to ask you by PM first, but you know these FF crusaders - they think everyone is out to get them, everyone is out to scam them, and everyone is responsible for their failures but themselves ... Anyone watching your videos can simply follow along and ask themselves if the methodology makes sense to them or not, and whether it is something they feel they themselves can implement or not. It doesn't matter what server is being...
I think divergence is selling his brand of vape to be honest...
  • #11,229
  • Mar 16, 2019 6:41pm Mar 16, 2019 6:41pm
And let’s not forget that this The Cable Guy’s thread. Divergence is just keeping the lights on for CG while he recovers. I do hope you are doing well, CG.

Quoting The Cableguy
{quote} my life is all about how to move on regarding healthcare from here! ... I will be back in the loop again though hopefully. GL all
  • #11,230
  • Mar 16, 2019 6:42pm Mar 16, 2019 6:42pm
Quoting Divergence
full disclosure I do have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell real cheap anyone interested?
Ummm ... this is awkward ... I already bought that bridge last week from a guy named Vinny.
  • #11,231
  • Mar 16, 2019 6:49pm Mar 16, 2019 6:49pm
Quoting ddaytrader
{quote} Ummm ... this is awkward ... I already bought that bridge last week from a guy named Vinny.
That's my rat cousin vinny boombats
  • #11,232
  • Mar 16, 2019 7:33pm Mar 16, 2019 7:33pm
Quoting hilmy83
{quote} I think divergence is selling his brand of vape to be honest...
Lol
  • #11,233
  • Mar 16, 2019 7:53pm Mar 16, 2019 7:53pm
Really guys. Don't just dismiss Olarion1975. This guy saw something he didn't have an answer for and posed the question. He got 3 responses.

I don't know why its like that.
You suck.
Sierra charts has blue text on simulation servers and white text on live.

Most constructive being the last. From there he can go look into it. He made an observation. That's all. Don't burn him for it.

Just know that if its done real time on sim, it can be done live at the retail level (1 to 10 contracts on the NQ).


Also, i think i know the bridge your selling. There's already a couple of trolls squatting.
  • #11,234
  • Mar 16, 2019 8:16pm Mar 16, 2019 8:16pm
Quoting LookinGood
He made an observation. That's all. Don't burn him for it.
You are too easy on him. Here is what he said: “Divergence seems to scam you guys ... I think he tries to makes money by selling his trading knowledge or selling guys his videos/tipps.”

Given he felt that way, then sharing his observation publicly rather than first going to Divergence first through PM does not make him as innocent as you would have us believe.”
  • #11,235
  • Mar 16, 2019 8:18pm Mar 16, 2019 8:18pm
Quoting Olarion1975
I only state the fact that he is not trading live in his videos, although he pretends to do so.
O, look at the left upper corner of the screen shots through this thread from Sierra. You will notice that some say "sim" and some do not. The ones that say SIM are simulated and not live. This is out of the control of the user. If "SIM" is not there, it is a live chart. Simple as that.

Now the question you may be asking is, "How do you know he didn't just cut it off the screen?" I know because I know what screen capturing software he is using and I know what the full left side of Sierra looks like. There are enough people on the thread to know if he were doing that.

Finally, Sometimes, when I have logged into Sierra, it will give a live message even though I am entering a SIM environment. Why? No clue. When I see that, I make sure to reset it first so I know for sure which environment I'm in.

Not sure that satisfies your observation or not. Hopefully. Harold is truly just trying to take something that can be lonely and make it social while educating some of the rest of us.
Lord, Liar, Lunatic. Those are only 3 options to Christ's diety claim.
  • #11,236
  • Mar 16, 2019 8:39pm Mar 16, 2019 8:39pm
Quoting Divergence
{quote} That's my rat cousin vinny boombats
I know you have that NY accent ... are you still living in NY?
  • #11,237
  • Mar 16, 2019 8:40pm Mar 16, 2019 8:40pm
Quoting ddaytrader
{quote} You are too easy on him. Here is what he said: “Divergence seems to scam you guys ... I think he tries to makes money by selling his trading knowledge or selling guys his videos/tipps.” Given he felt that way, then sharing his observation publicly rather than first going to Divergence first through PM does not make him as innocent as you would have us believe.”
Well i'm an easy going guy. But i do see what you're saying there and i see why you railed into him.
  • #11,238
  • Mar 16, 2019 8:57pm Mar 16, 2019 8:57pm
Quoting ddaytrader
{quote} I know you have that NY accent ... are you still living in NY?
nope moved down south even though my rat cousin vinny boombats sold my bridge from under me he doesnt know about this statue of a pretty lady sitting out in the harbor is now up for sale any takers
  • #11,239
  • Mar 16, 2019 9:10pm Mar 16, 2019 9:10pm
Quoting LookinGood
{quote} Well i'm an easy going guy. But i do see what you're saying there and i see why you railed into him.
I try to be an easy going guy too. That is why when he first posted I sent him a PM and suggested that he should delete his post and reach out to Divergence through PM first, and then if he still felt necessary to go public. His response told me he already made up his mind and he had an axe and he was going to grind it. I looked at his profile and saw he had unsubscribed from Divergence about the same time he made the first post.

He then says that the method is sound and it works for him. Then why worry about whether the videos are sim or live?

The whole thing stinks.

Let’s get back to trading. If someone doesn’t like Divergence’s videos, guess what? It’s a Free World ... no one is required to watch them.
  • #11,240
  • Mar 16, 2019 10:26pm Mar 16, 2019 10:26pm
I am back to here (2 trades @ 10/11ticks each session):
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