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  • #1,101
  • Edited 2:52am Mar 15, 2019 2:36am | Edited 2:52am
Quoting cdsaa
version Ultron_PDV101 results with my usual setting with 10% risk from March 2018 to 2019 {image} version Ultron_PDV103 results on same settings. {image} Results improved from 79 trades to 81 trades, additional profit of 3000 - from 12k to 15k on 1000 initial balance. For the fun of it, on small initial balance of $100 {image}

Hey. You may be asked to test ULTRON_LITE_3 with the following settings:
balance 100 $
TrailingStop 23
TrailingStep 2
Openhour 7
CloseHour 21
(2018.03.01-2019.03.14)
the rest of the default settings.
And, if the same test is not difficult, only TrailingStop 30
  • #1,102
  • Mar 15, 2019 2:51am Mar 15, 2019 2:51am
Quoting Feex
{quote} Hey. You may be asked to test ULTRON_LITE_3 with the following settings: balance 100 $ TrailingStop 23 TrailingStep 2 Openhour 7 CloseHour 21 (2018.03.01-2019.14) the rest of the default settings. And, if the same test is not difficult, only TrailingStop 30
will do.
  • #1,103
  • Mar 15, 2019 3:01am Mar 15, 2019 3:01am
Quoting cdsaa
multiple orders test Version PDV101 With 2 multiple orders. {image} With 10 multiple order setting. {image} I was the one who requested that we need to check multiple orders, so that we do not miss other signals and we get same result, even if someone starts at a different times. But now, i feel it is not worth the risk, DD is increasing considerably. Max i would go would be 2 multi orders. Usual with 1 order at a time. {image}
I concur - my testing has shown the same: multiple orders appears to be great idea, but with detailed testing you see very quickly that it's not that good. (I may take it out in a future version just to avoid confusion and temptation).
"Pips are vanity. Profit is sanity."
  • #1,104
  • Mar 15, 2019 3:02am Mar 15, 2019 3:02am
Quoting cdsaa
{quote} will do.
Thanks you. I just wanted to compare your PDV_3 test with a balance of $ 100 and the same test LITE_3
And I'm interested in three results:
profit
drawdown
and most importantly: the maximum number of consecutive losses
  • #1,105
  • Mar 15, 2019 4:19am Mar 15, 2019 4:19am
Quoting suneth2
I'm testing on live cent account , i have a little question, is this EA open trades when volume less than 25 ( < 25). my volume seems always greater than 300 {image}
Thanks for the screen shot - I can see that I've messed up the info panel and need to fix it to show the current gap figures. I hadn't noticed that myself.

It's supposed to show the current values vs the expected ranges, and when they are all green it is ready to open a new order.

Despite the panel figures though, it is still working.
&quot;Pips are vanity. Profit is sanity.&quot;
  • #1,106
  • Mar 15, 2019 4:19am Mar 15, 2019 4:19am
Quoting Feex
{quote} Thanks you. I just wanted to compare your PDV_3 test with a balance of $ 100 and the same test LITE_3 And I'm interested in three results: profit drawdown and most importantly: the maximum number of consecutive losses
it is still running another 3 months to go
  • #1,107
  • Edited 5:54am Mar 15, 2019 5:19am | Edited 5:54am
Results for test which @Feex has asked on $100

Trailing Stop- 23
Step-2

Time -7
21

Ulite_3 from March 2018 to March 2019

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Ulton PDV 103 with SL-70 and TP-0
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Ultron_PDV_103 from March 2018 to March 2019

Same settings which is trailing stop-23 and step-2 time- 7 and 21
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Both EA have some very good signal. Maximising profit from the same trade using Trailing stop is where the difference is.

I would like us to focus on making the quality of signal better.
  • #1,108
  • Mar 15, 2019 5:23am Mar 15, 2019 5:23am
Quoting PaulDV
{quote} I concur - my testing has shown the same: multiple orders appears to be great idea, but with detailed testing you see very quickly that it's not that good. (I may take it out in a future version just to avoid confusion and temptation).

@PaulDV Please do not remove the Multiple Orders yet. I want to find the optimal signal settings. Now that we are able to maximise the Profit on the given signal, lets focus on improving signals across the time period.

Our EA is is performing well from time period August to now. Before that it is average.

So i think it is to do with Swings, Since August we have some big swings - which indicate trending markets.

Lets put our brains and see how we overcome lower swings after this Brexit drama is finished end of March.

We will not sit with big swings after this March 2019.
  • #1,109
  • Mar 15, 2019 5:26am Mar 15, 2019 5:26am
Quoting cdsaa
Results for test which @Feex has asked on $100 Trailing Stop- 23 Step-2 Time -7 21 Ulite_3 from March 2018 to March 2019 {image} Ultron_PDV_103 from March 2018 to March 2019 Same settings which is trailing stop-23 and step-2 time- 7 and 21 {image} Both EA have some very good signal. Maximising profit from the same trade using Trailing stop is where the difference is. I would like us to focus on making the quality of signal better.
Interesting results, however I notice that the SL and TP are different on each test.
For a true comparison, you need to set the SL the same and set TP on PDV_103 to zero (Lite_3 ignores the TP if a trailing stop is used).
&quot;Pips are vanity. Profit is sanity.&quot;
  • #1,110
  • Mar 15, 2019 5:53am Mar 15, 2019 5:53am
Quoting PaulDV
{quote} Interesting results, however I notice that the SL and TP are different on each test. For a true comparison, you need to set the SL the same and set TP on PDV_103 to zero (Lite_3 ignores the TP if a trailing stop is used).
That is the differentiator i guess, i like TP being taken into account. SL hitting on trailing is kind of giving away so many pips. So having a target and taking the Tp and closing the trade is good. Trailing stop, in my opinion is to safe guard the trade. But anyways both options are open for different people.

But anyway posting results on making SL-70 & TP-0 to make comparision same.
  • #1,111
  • Mar 15, 2019 5:57am Mar 15, 2019 5:57am
Quoting PaulDV
{quote} Interesting results, however I notice that the SL and TP are different on each test. For a true comparison, you need to set the SL the same and set TP on PDV_103 to zero (Lite_3 ignores the TP if a trailing stop is used).

Yes I agree. LITE_3 really ignores TP if trailing is enabled. And in PDV you need to set 0 to make the comparison correct. Well, SL should be the same.
it is just interesting to understand what can make this system more efficient.
  • #1,112
  • Mar 15, 2019 6:00am Mar 15, 2019 6:00am
Quoting cdsaa
{quote} That is the differentiator i guess, i like TP being taken into account. SL hitting on trailing is kind of giving away so many pips. So having a target and taking the Tp and closing the trade is good. Trailing stop, in my opinion is to safe guard the trade. But anyways both options are open for different people. But anyway posting results on making SL-70 & TP-0 to make comparision same.
Thank you for providing the opportunity to see different tests with high quality. Personally, I have no such opportunity (
  • #1,113
  • Mar 15, 2019 6:02am Mar 15, 2019 6:02am
Quoting PaulDV
{quote} Interesting results, however I notice that the SL and TP are different on each test. For a true comparison, you need to set the SL the same and set TP on PDV_103 to zero (Lite_3 ignores the TP if a trailing stop is used).
First of all, thank you paul, for your hard work to make the ultron better ea,..

I dont understend,.why such diference in profit from ultron pdv 101 and 103, in the tests made by CDSAA,...?????
  • #1,114
  • Mar 15, 2019 6:06am Mar 15, 2019 6:06am
Quoting artic118
{quote} First of all, thank you paul, for your hard work to make the ultron better ea,.. I dont understend,.why such diference in profit from ultron pdv 101 and 103, in the tests made by CDSAA,...?????
The results are different because the settings aren't quite the same.

I think when run with comparable settings, the results will be very much closer, and any difference will most likely be down to how the trailing stop is handled in each.

The entry criteria for both are identical as far as I can see, but where the number of trades is higher in one, this would be down to trades exiting earlier and therefore allowing another signal to be taken.
&quot;Pips are vanity. Profit is sanity.&quot;
  • #1,115
  • Mar 15, 2019 6:10am Mar 15, 2019 6:10am
Quoting PaulDV
{quote} The results are different because the settings aren't quite the same. I think when run with comparable settings, the results will be very much closer, and any difference will most likely be down to how the trailing stop is handled in each. The entry criteria for both are identical as far as I can see, but where the number of trades is higher in one, this would be down to trades exiting earlier and therefore allowing another signal to be taken.
@PaulDv,

on test 101 and 103, i did use the same settings nothing has changed.

multi order-1
I am using Sl- 69, TP-118

Trailing stop-40 and step-14
percentage risk -10
time- 7/21

No other details changed.
  • #1,116
  • Mar 15, 2019 6:14am Mar 15, 2019 6:14am
@PaulDV

These are the updates from 101- 103:

Updates:

 

  1. Corrected MA3MA4Max info on panel.
  2. Corrected detection of currency pair for warning message (should now ignore broker prefixes and suffixes).
  3. Converted MA gap parameters to pip to make things easier to understand.
  4. Updated the news filter to use FFC.EX4 (thanks @cdsaa) as the old version seemed corrupted.
  5. News filter now included Holidays, so you can suspend trading on holidays if you wish.


On this only point which could increase the profitability is point no 3. - converted MA gap parameter from decimals to pips.

  • #1,117
  • Mar 15, 2019 6:25am Mar 15, 2019 6:25am
Quoting Feex
{quote} Thank you for providing the opportunity to see different tests with high quality. Personally, I have no such opportunity (

Uploading full test results, in case you want to check them.
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File Type: zip ultron_pdv_103_0320182019_10_100_23_2_tp0.zip   38 KB | 458 downloads
File Type: zip ulite_3_0320182019_10_100.zip   29 KB | 443 downloads
File Type: zip ultron_pdv_103_0320182019_10_100_23_2.zip   40 KB | 437 downloads
  • #1,118
  • Mar 15, 2019 6:26am Mar 15, 2019 6:26am
Had this EA open on Demo Account GBPUSD H1 for over 24hrs and it's not trading at all.
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  • #1,119
  • Mar 15, 2019 6:30am Mar 15, 2019 6:30am
Quoting ss30
Had this EA open on Demo Account GBPUSD H1 for over 24hrs and it's not trading at all. {image}

in March it took 2 trades,
7th march and
13th march.

When it opens, all of us will post our trade open price. You can verify if your EA opens at that time.
  • #1,120
  • Mar 15, 2019 6:33am Mar 15, 2019 6:33am
Quoting ss30
Had this EA open on Demo Account GBPUSD H1 for over 24hrs and it's not trading at all. {image}
this adviser is not a machine gun) It opens deals only to a signal. If there is no signal, he can be silent for a week)
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