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  • #4,461
  • Mar 13, 2019 4:02pm Mar 13, 2019 4:02pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} Very good perception ,,mine similar ,slighlty altered tho , if one has the direction down right ,, by stuff tht happens consistently across pair after pair,, soon the risk of not being able to make anything is greater lol,,,, certain levels get used time after time ,,pair after pair ,,, even the big boys have to use something ,,, use what they use your odds go up exponentially,, becuase whether they know something or whether they dont ,,they move the mkt ,,plain and simple
big boys or market movers do not trade like we do.....they have orders sitting on their desk.....they manipulate moves by entering or not entering.... they will also defend their position against other market movers.....they have liquidity issues to deal with......

retail traders most fail because they think they can control the market with an idea or conviction, mostly uses all sort of indicators, levels and pivot points (but they are only good to tame their anxiety).....Market movers do not use that crap...when they get into the office they have orders sitting on their desk and they will decide at what level they will sell or buy......if a retail trader cannot see where they going to enter the market (together with their tricks) and get lost in their own conviction and indicators they will lose for certain or will for ever trade a small or demo account.
trading is simple but is simple is not easy.
  • #4,462
  • Mar 13, 2019 4:07pm Mar 13, 2019 4:07pm
Quoting Jp1
{quote} Ok thanks, good tip! Ive only ever paid attention to above/below 80/20.....never shit in the middle!
its a funny area ,, long as ya know which way in the swing the mkt is really going ,,it makes it a bit easier to jump on something or sty in if going the right way ,,,or sty out if thinking other way lol ,,how would know ,,, is it above some shit or below some shit ,, same kinda move last thrusday down ,,, the 8 hour stochs was in the over sold area ,, once price hit and exceeded what ? a previous daily swing low area ,, what happened ,, 1st spot to even look is where ?
  • #4,463
  • Mar 13, 2019 4:13pm Mar 13, 2019 4:13pm
was price above some shit ,,yep above weekly average ,,,last week ,, was price below some shit yep weekly ave ,,,, mkt aint willy nilly ,,, did brexit make it do anything any different ,,sure dont look like it to me
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  • #4,464
  • Mar 13, 2019 4:15pm Mar 13, 2019 4:15pm
where did price go ,,, 1332 ,, has it been here before ,, sure looks like it ,,what is 1332 ,, a quarterly level ,, above it leads to where
  • #4,465
  • Mar 13, 2019 4:21pm Mar 13, 2019 4:21pm
go right to left on any chart ,,, everything looks the same ,,the swings back and forth ,,, how many big news items where there ,,did it make anything look any different than it ever did ,,,, not one damn time ,the mkt did what it always does ,so why worry about it
  • #4,466
  • Mar 13, 2019 4:23pm Mar 13, 2019 4:23pm
the chf depegging was the most recent big big deal ,, yet wht happened ,, every bit of it was recoverd ,,took it a while ,,but it did wht mkts always do ,, ,, a high a low a mid point
  • #4,467
  • Mar 13, 2019 4:42pm Mar 13, 2019 4:42pm
Imagine what an acct would look like if one waited for all week for tht one big day tht drains most accts or takes the peanuts made from days of little trades from most ,,, takes a whole different thought process than most have been taught since day one ,,, is it the normal trading bullshit ,,,nope ,,probably not ,,what does the normal bullshit get one tho
  • #4,468
  • Mar 13, 2019 4:46pm Mar 13, 2019 4:46pm
Quoting ZenNy
{quote} big boys or market movers do not trade like we do.....they have orders sitting on their desk.....they manipulate moves by entering or not entering.... they will also defend their position against other market movers.....they have liquidity issues to deal with...... retail traders most fail because they think they can control the market with an idea or conviction, mostly uses all sort of indicators, levels and pivot points (but they are only good to tame their anxiety).....Market movers do not use that crap...when they get into the office...
couldnt agree more ,, but the way they go about it never changes ,, only thing tht changes is levels they do shit at ,, from quarter to quarter,, and in some years those dont even change much from quarter to quarter,, years no different than some candles ,,some are made in the last few minute before one closes and the next opens ,,,,then is back to what ,, a breakout or the same ole range in the middle ,,, much like the asian session on any day on the eur ,,not much changes lol
  • #4,469
  • Mar 13, 2019 5:04pm Mar 13, 2019 5:04pm
Bout what any one will see for data when a monthly pops up ,,, same ole same ole,,, only on a much longer scale 2 years some fun ,,, then 2 years and a little fun ,,like any day or week ebbs and flows ,, when frankie and london fire up the fun starts only a little lack luster in eur as of late ,,the 2 year stretches like every day asian session lol
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  • #4,470
  • Mar 13, 2019 5:07pm Mar 13, 2019 5:07pm
those 50 levels and highs and lows ,,pretty reliable ,, if thts all I got to use Ill use them ,, dont give a shit what the big boys do or how ,, long as they dont change how ,,those will give me enough to go on
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  • #4,471
  • Mar 13, 2019 5:19pm Mar 13, 2019 5:19pm
a wild one ,, exact or to the pip ,,nope ,, but a few other things will have one looking the right way ,,not guessing
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  • #4,472
  • Mar 13, 2019 5:22pm Mar 13, 2019 5:22pm
how much breath taking earth shattering news in tht amout of time yet some shit dont change once again easy ,,nope ,,but there are things to increase your odds and not for peanuts
  • #4,473
  • Mar 13, 2019 5:30pm Mar 13, 2019 5:30pm
just a few more lines ,,,, odds go up ,,exponentially ,, a level ,a place for entry , a place for a tight stop ,,even in one tht actually moves,, takes some patience ,,till its time not to be patient .
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  • #4,474
  • Mar 13, 2019 5:48pm Mar 13, 2019 5:48pm
What is the days open ,,, 1st line in the sand ,,wht is above to test ,, anew weekly high ,,what does asia usually do ,, same ole same ole ,,day in day out asia gonna go beyond the highs ,,, doubtful ,,be a 12 pip range for hours more than likely they can get a little rambunctious on a bigger day ,, but it wont be overly so ,, dont want to rock the boat lol
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  • #4,475
  • Mar 13, 2019 6:03pm Mar 13, 2019 6:03pm
was it above some shit, yep ,,did the 8 hour show down ,, nope ,,was it at or near a daily chart swing high nope ,,, did it sty below days open ,,, nope ,,,, was it at a good quarterly level yet ,,, nope ,,, whole lotta nopes there ,,did selling get ya much ,,nope ,, right area got ya some ,,it works if in and out but more had rolling with the mkt ,,,, did selling more to add to one under water accomplish anything ,, nope ,,just tied up more money tht one may or may not get back ,, new line in the sand ,, a whole new day ,, all in the eye of the beholder I reckon,,, when there is more yeps than nopes then I will look the other way ,,not until
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  • #4,476
  • Edited 6:36pm Mar 13, 2019 6:18pm | Edited 6:36pm
Z man ,, no disrepect at all ,, but the pivots ,, gonna have to agree to disagree ,,, someone with some clout use certain ones ,,,, just a tool like anything else tho ,, to the pip nope ,, but a decent map just the same ,,seen it too long,, have made too much,,, to think otherwise on too many pairs for it to be a coincidence ,,,even the big boys need levels,, their idea of fare mkt value thru out a quarter or their levels for all the different types of customers they have ,, importers exporters and their own greedy little fingers in the pot ,, all aint here as speculators,,some need stuff at different ends for different things in any pair,,yep they got thier ways to manipulate and stimulate levels ,, most would say its for a better deal for their customers at both ends of the spectrum we now better but their minipulation is done the same way over and over ,,some globel businesses have their own trading divisions to get the best they can at given times to cover what they need for their business transactions,,countries do the same ,,,, its not all about the speculation ,,many forget tht
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  • #4,477
  • Mar 13, 2019 6:38pm Mar 13, 2019 6:38pm
Quoting digger1
,, have made too much,,,
Oh man, something about this grabbed me, I LOL'd... you're a fucking inspiration bro, to be in a position to say that lol.. awesome. It can be done. Everyone here can make this a reality. Starting to see the forest because of you my man, and it is a beautiful sight to behold. Feel like I'm looking through a keyhole at the moment but gonna throw that door wide open some day and never... look... back.
  • #4,478
  • Mar 13, 2019 6:46pm Mar 13, 2019 6:46pm
Quoting Rrrracer
{quote} Oh man, something about this grabbed me, I LOL'd... you're a fucking inspiration bro, to be in a position to say that lol.. awesome. It can be done. Everyone here can make this a reality. Starting to see the forest because of you my man, and it is a beautiful sight to behold. Feel like I'm looking through a keyhole at the moment but gonna throw that door wide open some day and never... look... back.
Lol,,, spent a very long time where most are ,, if I can do it some what profitably ,,anybody can ,, but like the Z man said ,, one has to learn their own thoughts mean nothing when it comes to this ,,,, nothing ,, shit going on and down one as an individual can not even fathom how it all fits together,, when this kinda money changes hands there is shit tht goes down lol,,business world operates in quarters ,, hence the quarterly numbers became something I looked at for a while ,,when I did a few things changed ,,for the better ,, been refining it down ever since and I am in a place its quite comfortable ,,,, do I get them all rite nope ,,but i get enough,,,, its better than peanuts and those big moves ,, dont take what I have made and more often than not I am in the right way ,,, much better watching acct grow a bit than imploding on those days ,, even if not in Im not fighting it
  • #4,479
  • Mar 13, 2019 7:01pm Mar 13, 2019 7:01pm
All I got is a previous high ,, a previous low and a midpoint ,, it all starts there bud ha
  • #4,480
  • Mar 13, 2019 7:06pm Mar 13, 2019 7:06pm
I have posted enough different pairs with the same quarterly levels and the same things happening ,,,some could be gleaned from just the pictures ,, its not an easy gig tho no matter what ,,but probabilities can be skewed a bit better in ones favor a lot of times
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