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  • #3,421
  • Jan 21, 2019 6:52am Jan 21, 2019 6:52am
Quoting majidlovio
{quote} this is better? sl 10, max slippage 4, spread 2 point and stop level 20 . matingale mutipler 11 {image}
i doubt you will get a constant spread of 2 points.
  • #3,422
  • Jan 21, 2019 7:34am Jan 21, 2019 7:34am
Quoting majidlovio
{quote} this is better? sl 10, max slippage 4, spread 2 point and stop level 20 . matingale mutipler 11 {image}
1. You use SL 10 and Grid 9 ?, it is possible that before the marting transaction occurs SL.
2. With a short SL (10), you can profit if the minimum signal level is 5. In normal movements it's okay, but it will be a problem if there is widening spreads and slippage.
3. If you are still curious about short SL, try Forward test first, then with the same parameters do BT (behind the sequence).
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,423
  • Jan 21, 2019 7:55am Jan 21, 2019 7:55am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Yes, for 2017 data for a particular month (eg March, May, October), the results are not good. When using the Grid around 25-30, this is not a problem. But the results are fewer. Ideally use a small Grid and a large Grid, then when is the small Grid swith to the big Grid or so ? In V1_09_4 there are parameters to activate Multi level Grid, but the results are not good, so I haven't told you yet. 1. I am preparing for the next version with Dynamic Grid (Multilevel Grid), adjusting to the strength of the trend (now testting). 2. I add setting...
i i li the idea of multi level grid, my question is if we use m1 on which time frame would you assess the trend strength?
  • #3,424
  • Jan 21, 2019 7:55am Jan 21, 2019 7:55am
Quoting Anpar
{quote} The set I used above, is not one of the sets you provided, it incorporates trailing and dynamic MM.
would yiu share the set file, olease?
  • #3,425
  • Jan 21, 2019 7:59am Jan 21, 2019 7:59am
Quoting fabio.g
{quote} i i li the idea of multi level grid, my question is if we use m1 on which time frame would you assess the trend strength?
Sorry is not the strength of the trend, but with the level of distance of the current price with the price of the first order.
For example 30 pips with Grid 10, 60 pips with Grid 15.. . . etc.
Please say if there are ideas to add choices.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,426
  • Jan 21, 2019 8:12am Jan 21, 2019 8:12am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Sorry is not the strength of the trend, but with the level of distance of the current price with the price of the first order. For example 30 pips with Grid 10, 60 pips with Grid 15.. . . etc. Please say if there are ideas to add choices.
when are you going to calculate that distance, i don t quite understand that?
  • #3,427
  • Jan 21, 2019 8:27am Jan 21, 2019 8:27am
Hello everyone in my opinion the tes could work better if the risk was variable during the growth of the account I'll explain my account starts at $ 2,000 with a certain risk.
when my account grows, the risk does not have to remain that way, that is automatically it must reduce the risk involved, that is, it must become increasingly conservative!doing so reduces the risk of seeing the account reset to BT and of course in real account.the bt unfortunately reset the account for the constant risk over time!Hello everyone in my opinion the tes could work better if the risk was variable during the growth of the account I'll explain my account starts at $ 2,000
tgram @ gcrem74
  • #3,428
  • Jan 21, 2019 8:29am Jan 21, 2019 8:29am
Quoting fabio.g
{quote} when are you going to calculate that distance, i don t quite understand that?
Each tick is in a minus condition.
For example:
First lot = 0.1 lot
If minus <30 pips, use Grid 10
If it's minus> 30 pips, use Grid 15
If minus> 60 pips, use Grid 20
If minus 200 pips, use Grid 20 ==> 200/20 = 10 Grids ==> Lotsize 0.1 X 10 = 1 lot
But if without Grid level, for example with Grid 10 ==> at minus 200 ==> 200/10 = 20 X 0.1 = 2 lots
Only options, do not have to be used (idea appears, because there are users semi-manual, with Grid 10 but after 3 transactions then change Grid to 20 to reduce the number of transactions and margins)
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,429
  • Jan 21, 2019 8:33am Jan 21, 2019 8:33am
Quoting giangiforex
Hello everyone in my opinion the tes could work better if the risk was variable during the growth of the account I'll explain my account starts at $ 2,000 with a certain risk. when my account grows, the risk does not have to remain that way, that is automatically it must reduce the risk involved, that is, it must become increasingly conservative!doing so reduces the risk of seeing the account reset to BT and of course in real account.the bt unfortunately reset the account for the constant risk over time!Hello everyone in my opinion the tes could...
What if using Budget_Allocation = 40% (for example), it might reduce the risk
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,430
  • Jan 21, 2019 8:42am Jan 21, 2019 8:42am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Each tick is in a minus condition. For example: First lot = 0.1 lot If minus <30 pips, use Grid 10 If it's minus> 30 pips, use Grid 15 If minus> 60 pips, use Grid 20 If minus 200 pips, use Grid 20 ==> 200/20 = 10 Grids ==> Lotsize 0.1 X 10 = 1 lot But if without Grid level, for example with Grid 10 ==> at minus 200 ==> 200/10 = 20 X 0.1 = 2 lots Only options, do not have to be used (idea appears, because there are users semi-manual, with Grid 10 but after 3 transactions then change Grid to 20 to reduce the number of transactions and margins)...
ok i see.

once you mentioned a grid feature with the current grid distance, something like 9071524, where the initial spacing is 9 and then 7, 15 and 24, depending on the ADR if i remember well
  • #3,431
  • Jan 21, 2019 8:43am Jan 21, 2019 8:43am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} What if using Budget_Allocation = 40% (for example), it might reduce the risk
ok but it would be useful to reduce the risk to certain% of the growth of the account
how do you think?
tgram @ gcrem74
  • #3,432
  • Jan 21, 2019 8:57am Jan 21, 2019 8:57am
Quoting fabio.g
{quote} ok i see. once you mentioned a grid feature with the current grid distance, something like 9071524, where the initial spacing is 9 and then 7, 15 and 24, depending on the ADR if i remember well
Yes V1_09_4 uses ADR, but it is not effective, because ADR is only seen daily. For example, on the second day it is still floating, ADR has changed maybe in the morning it is still short. Using ATR is also not effective.
Whereas if you use the distance from first order, it will take effect the next day.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,433
  • Jan 21, 2019 8:57am Jan 21, 2019 8:57am
Quoting giangiforex
{quote} ok but it would be useful to reduce the risk to certain% of the growth of the account how do you think?
With a budget allocation, BT reduces DD but also reduces profits.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,434
  • Jan 21, 2019 9:01am Jan 21, 2019 9:01am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} 1. You use SL 10 and Grid 9 ?, it is possible that before the marting transaction occurs SL. 2. With a short SL (10), you can profit if the minimum signal level is 5. In normal movements it's okay, but it will be a problem if there is widening spreads and slippage. 3. If you are still curious about short SL, try Forward test first, then with the same parameters do BT (behind the sequence).
1.no grid 6
2.with signal level 5 very low position. i use 0

20$ to 800$ 1 years. you can use it in best account condition. please share result friends.
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  • #3,435
  • Jan 21, 2019 9:08am Jan 21, 2019 9:08am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Yes V1_09_4 uses ADR, but it is not effective, because ADR is only seen daily. For example, on the second day it is still floating, ADR has changed maybe in the morning it is still short. Using ATR is also not effective. Whereas if you use the distance from first order, it will take effect the next day.
i understand, what about checking distance at the opening of bar?
  • #3,436
  • Jan 21, 2019 9:23am Jan 21, 2019 9:23am
Quoting fabio.g
{quote} i understand, what about checking distance at the opening of bar?
Open Bar, the position above if the candel down and the position below if the candle up.
For example Grid 10, this EA doesn't open marting exactly at -10 pips (although Grid_Time_Minute = 0)
For example Op Sell, then the price moves up 10 pips. EA will Op Sell but wait for the candle to move up (not when the candle moves down or at the open bar)
Try checking even though the marting transaction, will always try the tip of the candle for Op (with a range of 10-20 pips, if more than 20 pips the multiplication is already following the next grid).
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,437
  • Jan 21, 2019 9:34am Jan 21, 2019 9:34am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Open Bar, the position above if the candel down and the position below if the candle up. For example Grid 10, this EA doesn't open marting exactly at -10 pips (although Grid_Time_Minute = 0) For example Op Sell, then the price moves up 10 pips. EA will Op Sell but wait for the candle to move up (not when the candle moves down or at the open bar) Try checking even though the marting transaction, will always try the tip of the candle for Op (with a range of 10-20 pips, if more than 20 pips the multiplication is already following the next grid)....
got that. thanks for explaining.
  • #3,438
  • Jan 22, 2019 2:19am Jan 22, 2019 2:19am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Open Bar, the position above if the candel down and the position below if the candle up. For example Grid 10, this EA doesn't open marting exactly at -10 pips (although Grid_Time_Minute = 0) For example Op Sell, then the price moves up 10 pips. EA will Op Sell but wait for the candle to move up (not when the candle moves down or at the open bar) Try checking even though the marting transaction, will always try the tip of the candle for Op (with a range of 10-20 pips, if more than 20 pips the multiplication is already following the next grid)....
just a thought why not using the BB to determine the volatility as distance between the bands.
  • #3,439
  • Jan 22, 2019 3:19am Jan 22, 2019 3:19am
Quoting fabio.g
{quote} just a thought why not using the BB to determine the volatility as distance between the bands.
Can also, what does this mean (for example):
Level 1 with BB 50 period
Level 2 with a BB 100 period
Level 3 with a period of BB 150 ... etc.
If this is the case, usually first order Sell at BB above and Buy at BB below.
Then how to measure distance to determine the expected Grid Level.
Or maybe it's not like that?
Or maybe with Envelopes can use the Deviation difference
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,440
  • Jan 22, 2019 3:44am Jan 22, 2019 3:44am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Can also, what does this mean (for example): Level 1 with BB 50 period Level 2 with a BB 100 period Level 3 with a period of BB 150 ... etc. If this is the case, usually first order Sell at BB above and Buy at BB below. Then how to measure distance to determine the expected Grid Level. Or maybe it's not like that? Or maybe with Envelopes can use the Deviation difference
maybe i am misunderstanding, but the idea was using the BB after the first order is opened, in order to calculate the volatility as a function of the distance btw upper and lower bands.

while i think you are proposing a method to filter the first order, correct me if i am wrong, please?
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