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  • #41
  • Jan 17, 2019 6:45am Jan 17, 2019 6:45am
Quoting profitfarmer
hi moodybot, yes, i spoke to Fractal about 1.5 hours on skype. for real. sometimes action is what needed, and i took the steps for it. did my search on internet, and did contact him as he offered. on a skype video call it isnt that easy to mislead as in a forum. cant copy/paste or edit. it is easy to know another trader when someone is a trader, too. plus there is hardware that hard to fake on a live video, just for a sake to mislead. anyway, went into some topics what i am familiar more than a plain retail trader ( prop and managed accounts), and...

PF,

I don't deny any of what you say , however he is not Transparent regarding Tarmo , and he has avoided answering .
Red flag for me I'm afraid .




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  • #42
  • Jan 17, 2019 8:00am Jan 17, 2019 8:00am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} If I wanted an additional username it would be better to ask one of the scambusters..
So you don't want to follow up with what you are saying, or you are just dumbly repeating what others are saying to add to the confusion? The only one who has additional username is ex user TimeTells. If you have some evidence someone else has an additional username, be brave to speak UP like a real man, otherwise STFU. Insunations are for cowards.
Don't give up on your dreams. Keep sleeping.
  • #43
  • Jan 17, 2019 2:54pm Jan 17, 2019 2:54pm
Quoting 3ndlessHope
Now we have a fck fractal aaand a fck thoose who want to fck fractal + dukas thread Well done

What?
  • #44
  • Edited 4:09pm Jan 17, 2019 3:51pm | Edited 4:09pm
Quoting Artcool
{quote} So you don't want to follow up with what you are saying, or you are just dumbly repeating what others are saying to add to the confusion? The only one who has additional username is ex user TimeTells. If you have some evidence someone else has an additional username, be brave to speak UP like a real man, otherwise STFU. Insunations are for cowards.
Interesting stuff Artcool... So I'm a coward, that's not nice but welcome to this thread.

So I don't want to follow up with.... just dumbly.....err no Artcool, not quite.....TimeTell additional username...hmmm....be brave...hmm...like a real man....hmm...Insinuations (check spelling).....hmmm

Ok, Artcools, I will be brave and I will speak up.

First off, your post came through at 22:33 last night. That is 10:33 pm in the evening to you and I had zero interest in responding to you....so cut the attitude.

But now it's the morning....so....I will answer you directly. As you have been direct with me.

I'm not repeating anything. Artcool. I made the effort to track down Pete (TimeTells), I arranged a Skype call with Pete, we spoke for around 45 mins,I have had numerous email exchanges with Pete. He is neither Fractal and/or using an additional username, and neither am I before both of your cogs start whirring.

I can now ask you a question. Have you made the effort Artcool to contact Pete or are you just dumbly repeating what others have said?

Now to multiple logins. Can I assume you want me to be brave, be a real man...blah blah.....evidence...blah blah...Ok, I will tell you.

Are you are aware Artcool, that I am banned from the Scammers thread? Do you know why??
At this present moment there are something like 240 pages, 9,767 posts.
Within those posts I explain who I think is using multiple logins. I also explain when the date the login was changed. I gave the exact details why I think the login was changed. I also gave the names of other members who I have voiced concerns about who have been operating on here at least as long as I have.

You only joined in 2016 so perhaps you missed most of the action.

I think I was brave Artcool, I think I was a real man to voice my concerns on the very thread that was designed to find scammers, considering I was accusing one of the operators on that thread.

I believe I have answered your question's regarding why I delayed responding to you, TimeTells, and who I suspect and still do of using an additional login. Do let me know if you think I haven't.

Am I going to save you the legwork of reading the Scammer thread? Nope. Because to me it's obvious that you haven't read it. If you want to play with the big boys on there, then at least research the material before you sound off.
  • #45
  • Jan 17, 2019 4:55pm Jan 17, 2019 4:55pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Interesting stuff Artcool... So I'm a coward, that's not nice but welcome to this thread. So I don't want to follow up with.... just dumbly.....err no Artcool, not quite.....TimeTell additional username...hmmm....be brave...hmm...like a real man....hmm...Insinuations (check spelling).....hmmm Ok, Artcools, I will be brave and I will speak up. First off, your post came through at 22:33 last night. That is 10:33 pm in the evening to you and I had zero interest in responding to you....so cut the attitude. But now it's the morning....so....I...
Your post is a mess and you really lack some basic logic in your reasoning. I can see why you were banned from multiple threads.
Good luck.
Don't give up on your dreams. Keep sleeping.
  • #46
  • Jan 17, 2019 5:28pm Jan 17, 2019 5:28pm
Quoting Artcool
{quote} Your post is a mess and you really lack some basic logic in your reasoning. I can see why you were banned from multiple threads. Good luck.
Thats because you haven’t remotely researched your fucked up accusation. Where have we heared that before noddy.
  • #47
  • Jan 18, 2019 2:24am Jan 18, 2019 2:24am
Quoting profitfarmer
hi moodybot, yes, i spoke to Fractal about 1.5 hours on skype. for real. sometimes action is what needed, and i took the steps for it. did my search on internet, and did contact him as he offered. on a skype video call it isnt that easy to mislead as in a forum. cant copy/paste or edit. it is easy to know another trader when someone is a trader, too. plus there is hardware that hard to fake on a live video, just for a sake to mislead. anyway, went into some topics what i am familiar more than a plain retail trader ( prop and managed accounts), and...
Hi profitfarmer

Thanks for taking the time to reply here.
There really isn't anything that I could detract from your post. I completely agree with you.
My views are well known regarding the treatment of members by the Scambusters on this forum, and as Artcool has alluded too, I am actually banned from Fractals thread, and of course the Scammers thread. I absolutely cannot see where he has scammed anyone. For members to say that he might do so so lets ban him doesn't hold any ice with me.
The continual bleating from senior members and new wannabe witch finder generals is quite frankly a bloody joke. Not one of them has as far as I know spoken to Fractal.
I made the effort to track down Pete (TimeTells) and after chatting to him I am absolutely convinced he did not login with an additional username, in fact he has pointed out where Bushy made the error, yet the wannabes are all over it like a rash.
Have they made any effort to find out as you and I have, no, they just repeat the same mantra.
I stuck my head above the parapet as have you, it takes ball's, and more so to change one's mind and go on record as having done so.
Respect to you Sir.
  • #48
  • Jan 20, 2019 12:15am Jan 20, 2019 12:15am
Hi ProfitFarmer

Quick question for you.. how would you describe Fractals accent now that you have spoken to him?

M.
  • #49
  • Jan 20, 2019 2:20am Jan 20, 2019 2:20am

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@moodybot and Timetells two fine Aussie traders....
Cmon boys help your fellow trader.. YOUR COUNTRYMEN OUT !!!!

You know I thank God...For FractalFreak starting his thread and bringing
this Market manipulation subject to the forefront...

As no one ever has before.


Hey Bluesteele, me old mucker.

Tell you what I'll do, how about I release an audio clip with my strong Australian accent bred in North London. I'll chat briefly about Pitbull, Chips and Brijon.
But at the same time with TimeTells. I'll give Time Tells a call on skype, so you can hear him, and then I'll play one of Fractals videos.
With your superior judgement of accents, you point out who Fractal is, either TimeTells or me?
Then we can let the members on Forex factory decide who is who... and if TimeTells or I sound like Fractal then I will quit Forex Factory for good, how about it Bluesteele...you got the balls??
Just one thing before you accept the challenge, you quit for good if the members agree that Fractal, TimeTell and I are different people.....

  • #50
  • Jan 20, 2019 5:12am Jan 20, 2019 5:12am
Hey Bluesteele

2 audio files TimeTells and Moodybot

Tried to link skype to audio and record but couldn't hear TimeTells on the recording so recorded separately...spot the German accent.....

Which one of us is Fractal?????????

P.S Please don't leave the forum mate!!
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File Type: mp3 timetells.mp3   622 KB | 363 downloads

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File Type: mp3 Moodybot.mp3   746 KB | 330 downloads
  • #51
  • Jan 20, 2019 6:13am Jan 20, 2019 6:13am
Quoting moodybot
Hi ProfitFarmer Quick question for you.. how would you describe Fractals accent now that you have spoken to him? M.
Hi Moodybot,

Fractal is what he " supposed" to be
Persian with a mild German accent.

Trading or not trading also a returning issue around.
I can say that Skype has a video call option, and it was clear what I have seen was a lot more elaborate setup than anyone trading even 10k account would spend...simple cos the cost of hardware would not make feasible for smaller account.

More, comes up the topic regarding the wording of my post, like " I owe him that much", or he was quite friendly...
Put in context to those who get problems with it:
First and foremost English is my 3rd language ( now 2nd).
And as importantly, I have questions regards to Fractal in past, and while stayed polite ( and factual to available info at any given time) I am or was not a subscriber, not can say we we're in friendly terms per second.
So, above comments read like : dispute the prior history....he was friendly, we had a nice chat, etc.

Hope it adds some further clarification.
Happy weekend!
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #52
  • Jan 20, 2019 3:00pm Jan 20, 2019 3:00pm
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} Hi Moodybot, Fractal is what he " supposed" to be Persian with a mild German accent. Trading or not trading also a returning issue around. I can say that Skype has a video call option, and it was clear what I have seen was a lot more elaborate setup than anyone trading even 10k account would spend...simple cos the cost of hardware would not make feasible for smaller account. More, comes up the topic regarding the wording of my post, like " I owe him that much", or he was quite friendly... Put in context to those who get problems...

Hi profitfarmer

Thanks once again for taking the time.
Like you I am not a subscriber to Fractal, I haven't read his thread, although some including TimeTells have seen a benefit in reading it.

Hopefully admin will now make the commonsense decision of asking 'members' not to keep hounding Fractal or those that have an interest in the thread.
Most of us live in a democracy where members should be free to choose who's thread they wish to read, not have that decision made for them by other 'members' who appear to have free reign on the forum.

TimeTells and I have shown total clarity in proving both of us are not Fractal, we are indeed two independent people. Pete absolutely did not have an additional username which at the moment keeps a really decent chap from posting, he should be reinstated immediately and of course you profitfarmer, a respected member, also made the effort to find out about Fractal. I haven't spoken to Fractal and am unlikely to while he keeps me banned from his thread.

The rest of the accusations made by senior members against either TimeTells or myself has been nothing more than an orchestrated 'shit show'. As timetells mentioned to me, if we were to sit down to drink a few beers with these chaps it would be a great evening.

I'm still waiting for my invite to go fishing with Bluesteele in Vancouver..

M.
  • #53
  • Jan 22, 2019 2:19am Jan 22, 2019 2:19am
Just wondering if anyone has heard from Twee?

He used to be very good at replying to messages, doesn’t seem to be around too much these days. Has he left Forex Factory??

M.
  • #54
  • Jan 22, 2019 2:52am Jan 22, 2019 2:52am
Now this is interesting, so bear with me.

TimeTells (Pete) has had his shout facility removed, so effectively removed from Forex Factory.
Basically because Bushy fucked up and said that Pete had an additional name, since proven false, including Pete being accused of being Fractal, since proven false, has had zero communication from Twee...something stinks.

And all that without any correspondence from Twee, which I find really strange as Twee has always been ready to communicate.
But who would know that Pete had been shut down. Well the only way would be to read Pete's Bio where he updated it.
I knew because he emailed me.....did anyone else know? Probably not unless Pete emailed them.

But it just so happens that redoktober, the good old Scambuster did know, he has messaged Pete on the shout board, the usual gloating. The only way red would have known would be if he had looked at and read Petes Bio...and why would he. No need to.

Redoktober was in on the decision, Bluesteele warned Pete a little while ago, while acting the big man.

I would suggest to any member dealing with redoktober or bluesteele that they are not who they seem, including the continual roll of ready to fight trolls who turn up out of the woodwork every few months. They are not standard members operating to save the newbies.

Be very aware.
  • #55
  • Jan 22, 2019 3:20am Jan 22, 2019 3:20am
I dont think he was removed because XY said he has more than 1 accounts. I beleive admins investigated the issue...
Necessity knows no law except to conquer
  • #56
  • Jan 22, 2019 3:21am Jan 22, 2019 3:21am
Quoting 3ndlessHope
I dont think he was removed because XY said he has more than 1 accounts. I beleive admins investigated the issue...
How do you know they investigated?
  • #57
  • Jan 22, 2019 3:31am Jan 22, 2019 3:31am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} How do you know they investigated?
I dont know for sure, but it would be logical? How do you know they didnt investigate? What you are saying is admins do whatever XY tells them to do.
Necessity knows no law except to conquer
  • #58
  • Jan 22, 2019 3:50am Jan 22, 2019 3:50am
Quoting 3ndlessHope
{quote} I dont know for sure, but it would be logical? How do you know they didnt investigate? What you are saying is admins do whatever XY tells them to do.
Twee has always been upfront and responded to messages. In this case he hasn't responded at all to Pete. That in itself is very strange.
Bluesteele gave it the big man show a little while back, threatening to silence Pete. Red hasn't interacted with Pete at all, but immediately he rocks up on Petes shout board the moment that Pete had been silenced. No one knew. I did from an email from Pete. I absolutely don't buy the fact that Red just happened across Petes Bio by accident. Definitely not.
Bluesteele and Red at this moment control the show.
  • #59
  • Jan 22, 2019 4:00am Jan 22, 2019 4:00am
Pete Bio

'Interesting. Redocktober has not spoken to me, PM'd, or shouted to me ever. Yet the DAY my shout closed he shouts. It's rigged Red, I SEE right through you. You forgot that I can still edit Bio. You're caught out Red, caught redhanded.

A member's bio says "input by TimeTells".
If you change this bio Red I have a screenshot of this and will send it to Fair Economy, the owners. You are a cheat Red, and you have been caught.

15 days & NO reply from Admin. 4 times I have asked Admin to respect the TRUTH!. I am NOT Frac, that is UNTRUE 100%, been verified. I am NO other username ever. A business that will not overturn a false accusation makes itself FALSE. Shouts NOW shutdown, the Factory has no shame in its shoddy behaviour over its members'
  • #60
  • Jan 22, 2019 4:02am Jan 22, 2019 4:02am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Twee has always been upfront and responded to messages. In this case he hasn't responded at all to Pete. That in itself is very strange. Bluesteele gave it the big man show a little while back, threatening to silence Pete. Red hasn't interacted with Pete at all, but immediately he rocks up on Petes shout board the moment that Pete had been silenced. No one knew. I did from an email from Pete. I absolutely don't buy the fact that Red just happened across Petes Bio by accident. Definitely not. Bluesteele and Red at this moment control the...
I dont buy that either admins of such a popular forum bann people for no reason without any investigation. Well, to be honest I hope they dont do that.
Necessity knows no law except to conquer
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