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  • #21
  • Oct 12, 2006 3:57am Oct 12, 2006 3:57am
You'll have to excuse the John Madden drawings..

The reason is, note the open bar you are talking about (Red 2) is not below the original candled for analysis (Referred to as Support 1, pointed to as Red 1)

Where as the BLUE side..

Blue 2 broke the imaginary horizontal line of Blue 1.

I've drawn both lines in cyan for your reference..

The description of it is a bit difficult, but I feel the drawing explains most of it..

Stare at the drawing REALLY HARD and use the force..!

I hope it explains itself..
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  • #22
  • Oct 12, 2006 4:01am Oct 12, 2006 4:01am
What exactly do you mean by "4 for 18" and "20 out of 20"?

Quoting twoblink
Mouteki on MT4 so far:

4 for 18


Mouteki on VT so far:

20 out of 20


????

WTF??

The data? The graphs? What???

I'll attach some VT gems for you all to see..
I am JuMPeR.
  • #23
  • Oct 12, 2006 4:03am Oct 12, 2006 4:03am
Quoting jumper
What exactly do you mean by "4 for 18" and "20 out of 20"?
I made 18 trades and only won on 4 on MT4.

I made 20 trades on VT and won 20 trades.
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  • #24
  • Oct 12, 2006 4:08am Oct 12, 2006 4:08am
Quoting twoblink
I made 18 trades and only won on 4 on MT4.

I made 20 trades on VT and won 20 trades.
Ahh... I see. Extremely fascinating, I must say.
I am JuMPeR.
  • #25
  • Oct 12, 2006 4:33am Oct 12, 2006 4:33am
Something is wrong.. don't know what it is..



Quoting jumper
Ahh... I see. Extremely fascinating, I must say.
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  • #26
  • Oct 12, 2006 4:38am Oct 12, 2006 4:38am
Something is wrong.. don't know what it is..

twoblink
are you trading the VT live or demo?

I have just downloaded the demo and the prices are out (quiet a bit) from my live account FXDD, that may answer why you have a different signal and the VT is showing better results, just a thought
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  • #27
  • Oct 12, 2006 4:59am Oct 12, 2006 4:59am
Good point.

Twoblink are you trading live or demo on VT and do you have an account with CMS ?

I have both a Demo and Live account and the demo is inferior to the live, however the discrepencies in price are not enough to influence the entering of a trade after a Candle has opened above or below a Supply or Demand line.
  • #28
  • Oct 12, 2006 8:51am Oct 12, 2006 8:51am
I have both a live account and a demo.

The prices have a roughly 3~6 pip discrepency, but still, we are talking about hitting stops vs hitting the TP's.

So it's not the discrepency.. I mean if MT4 and VT were off by over 30 pips, someone would notice..

So something is playing a factor in it, but I'm not sure what.

I'd love for those of you who have both MT4 as well as VT to try trades on both and see what the results are..
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  • #29
  • Oct 12, 2006 11:47am Oct 12, 2006 11:47am
To clarify...you did this on 1 hr charts, not 4 hr? Thanks.
"Loss and failure are inevitable but misery is optional"
  • #30
  • Oct 12, 2006 1:14pm Oct 12, 2006 1:14pm
...I saw that this was on the 1 hr.
"Loss and failure are inevitable but misery is optional"
  • #31
  • Oct 12, 2006 7:42pm Oct 12, 2006 7:42pm
Just want to thank you for the VTTRS Color bars...I really appreciates it. Saves me a lot of time.

Thanks
  • #32
  • Oct 12, 2006 10:33pm Oct 12, 2006 10:33pm
The visual bars have more benefits than the MT4 version which actually draws the trendlines for you.

The reason is, you can see (visually) where the trend was going, the ebb and flow. Glad it's helping someone.
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  • #33
  • Oct 12, 2006 11:29pm Oct 12, 2006 11:29pm
Quoting twoblink
The visual bars have more benefits than the MT4 version which actually draws the trendlines for you.

The reason is, you can see (visually) where the trend was going, the ebb and flow. Glad it's helping someone.
These bars are great! I had 6 1 hr setups and made money on all of them!

You said you were 20 for 20. Did you choose specific pairs or take all that presented themselves? Thanks again!
"Loss and failure are inevitable but misery is optional"
  • #34
  • Oct 13, 2006 3:37am Oct 13, 2006 3:37am
I've only been trying "The Big 4"

Cable, EUR, CHF, Yen against the USD.

Yes, the "color bars" seems to be MUCH more profitable than the "circles" of MT4.

Psychological?? I'm not sure, but I do notice that There was a doji start that I couldn't really see, and so I ignored, but MT4 took the signal, and so I made money on VT but not on MT4..

That might be the difference.

Also, I'm doing it against the 1H and it's been just swell...
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  • #35
  • Oct 13, 2006 3:53am Oct 13, 2006 3:53am
Psychological??

try using the Heiki-Ashi Candlesticks on VT
A little slower, but less psych issues!

I do very good on vt (cms)
  • #36
  • Oct 13, 2006 10:14am Oct 13, 2006 10:14am
Mouteki over the last 2 weeks..

Screenshot.. (VT)
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  • #37
  • Oct 13, 2006 10:17am Oct 13, 2006 10:17am
Contrast that with MT4 mouteki..

(Red means hit and exited stops, Green means hit TP)

Now this is what I mean.. and it's a stark contrast.

VT I'm +$3249.

MT4 I'm -$1928

WTF???

something in the water, the jujubees, or SOMETHING...
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  • #38
  • Oct 13, 2006 10:21am Oct 13, 2006 10:21am
I muck with MT4 more, even though my live account is with VT, the reason being it's very easy to measure pips on MT4, where as I have to crank the calculator for VT.

BUT.. as you can see... this is up there with the Pyramids, Lock Ness Monster, Women and Shoes etc...

I'm at a loss for words..
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  • #39
  • Oct 13, 2006 11:08am Oct 13, 2006 11:08am
TwoBlink. I have been tradign in Demo on MT. Based on what you have learned thus far, do you recommend I switch to VT? I am not familiar with VT. Or is it too early to draw a conclusion. I wish Mouteki would drop by and offer his input. We miss you Mouteki!


Thanks 2
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  • #40
  • Oct 13, 2006 12:11pm Oct 13, 2006 12:11pm
Did you also trade the 1h chart on mt4?
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