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  • #3,181
  • Jan 3, 2019 10:30pm Jan 3, 2019 10:30pm
Quoting Anpar
Great work on the improvements to the EA, first time I was able to run default settings with my broker without crashing over a full 2 years (99.5% quality). Unfortunately due to my broker having a 100% margin on hedge positions, I'm pretty much stuck using the EA without hedge, unless I change brokers. I do have an account with a broker that offers 0% margin on hedge, might have to fund it to see how it goes.
Please which of the set file did you run the 2 years test on. A, B, C or D?

And was it on autolot or you selected your own lot?

Thanks
i have tried to start trades with a trend, now i prefer to follow the trend
  • #3,182
  • Jan 3, 2019 11:11pm Jan 3, 2019 11:11pm
Quoting jereajali
{quote} Please which of the set file did you run the 2 years test on. A, B, C or D? And was it on autolot or you selected your own lot? Thanks
Set A, with a starting balance of $5k.
  • #3,183
  • Jan 4, 2019 1:33am Jan 4, 2019 1:33am
About multiplication of lots.

I am sure you are all more experienced in managing EA

Here is a little technical use of the multiplication lot parameter
1. Marting_Multiplication, the default is 99 is a formula. If filled with numbers 1 or 2 or 3 etc, the multiplication of each grid will be constant according to that number.

2. Hedge_Multi, for example the first lot 0.1 and Hedge_Grid_Start 3 then:
If filled with numbers 1 or 2 or 3 etc, the multiplication of each grid will be constant according to that number.
* If you fill in the number <= 1 ==> there will be one hedge_tran with lotsize 0.1
* If filled with number 3 ==> there will be one hedge transaction with 0.1 lotsize and one hedge transaction with lotsize 2X0.1 = 0.2

If there is a good multiplication formula, please submit it to improve the next version

The following is a table of available multiplication formulations

Rgds
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  • #3,184
  • Jan 4, 2019 5:20am Jan 4, 2019 5:20am
Quoting Anpar
{quote} Set A, with a starting balance of $5k.
Okay, thanks
i have tried to start trades with a trend, now i prefer to follow the trend
  • #3,185
  • Jan 4, 2019 6:47am Jan 4, 2019 6:47am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} For disable Martingale ===> Martingale_active=false
how much is monthly profit and drawdown with 4000 cent balance and MM?
  • #3,186
  • Jan 4, 2019 7:34am Jan 4, 2019 7:34am
Quoting majidlovio
{quote} how much is monthly profit and drawdown with 4000 cent balance and MM?
How much profit?
I do not know, many factors with the specifications used. Speads, Stop Levels, brokers, etc.
Without martingale, I have never tried a Live account.
Please try BT, with a low profit target of 50%.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,187
  • Jan 4, 2019 9:04am Jan 4, 2019 9:04am
Here is the last day of my demo account, it is time for it to retire. Posting report for the past week and for the entire duration of the demo. If December would have been a full trading month, I'm certain, I could have reached $20k or $25k in profit, but the focus is now on the real account and seeing where I can take it.
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  • #3,188
  • Jan 4, 2019 9:06am Jan 4, 2019 9:06am
Result from a live cent account trading the most recent update to the EA 09_3, only one day of trading.
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  • #3,189
  • Jan 4, 2019 9:12am Jan 4, 2019 9:12am
Quoting Anpar
Here is the last day of my demo account, it is time for it to retire. Posting report for the past week and for the entire duration of the demo. If December would have been a full trading month, I'm certain, I could have reached $20k or $25k in profit, but the focus is now on the real account and seeing where I can take it. {image} {image} {image}
Hi Anpar
I've read your posts about ATR 120 and 75 to determine the direction of the trend.
Please explain the use of the ATR you entered, maybe I will add to a larger time frame with a target profit of around 100-150% (from Use margin) per trade


Rgds
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  • #3,190
  • Jan 4, 2019 9:49am Jan 4, 2019 9:49am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Hi Anpar I've read your posts about ATR 120 and 75 to determine the direction of the trend. Please explain the use of the ATR you entered, maybe I will add to a larger time frame with a target profit of around 100-150% (from Use margin) per trade Rgds
Hi Margiyono,

My comment around ATR was in regards to grid spacing, an example of this would be this week's GJ and EJ pairs, the 5 day average jump from 120 pips to 305 for GJ and 260 for EJ.

I use a base ATR value of 100. On any given trading day, I expect I could go 10 deep in a grid sequence (most days it is only 3), with this in mind, my baseline grid setting is 10. Using 10 as a baseline, I would have adjusted my grid on on the GJ EJ pairs form 12 up to 30.5 GJ and 26 EJ respectively. Because I trade the EA manually, I'm able to make these adjustments daily and adjust my profit expectations based on the new grid spacing.

Trust me, there is no science in this, it is just a way for me to control risk.
  • #3,191
  • Jan 4, 2019 2:54pm Jan 4, 2019 2:54pm
Quoting Anpar
{quote} Hi Margiyono, My comment around ATR was in regards to grid spacing, an example of this would be this week's GJ and EJ pairs, the 5 day average jump from 120 pips to 305 for GJ and 260 for EJ. I use a base ATR value of 100. On any given trading day, I expect I could go 10 deep in a grid sequence (most days it is only 3), with this in mind, my baseline grid setting is 10. Using 10 as a baseline, I would have adjusted my grid on on the GJ EJ pairs form 12 up to 30.5 GJ and 26 EJ respectively. Because I trade the EA manually, I'm able to make...
Thank you
I mean, in general if the control can be done manually, it might be applied automatically to EA as an additional option.
The question,
1. How much is the ATR period, with the Timeframe how much is the ATR calculation, according to EA TF or using a larger TF for example H1, H4, D1.
2. The ATR uses 100% or 200% to calculate the pips length.

Rgds
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,192
  • Jan 4, 2019 3:12pm Jan 4, 2019 3:12pm
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} How much profit? I do not know, many factors with the specifications used. Speads, Stop Levels, brokers, etc. Without martingale, I have never tried a Live account. Please try BT, with a low profit target of 50%.
i can not creat bt 99.90 .please creat bt with a cent account fortfs broker.
  • #3,193
  • Jan 4, 2019 3:14pm Jan 4, 2019 3:14pm
Quoting majidlovio
{quote} i can not creat bt 99.90 .please creat bt with a cent account fortfs broker.
I also never BT with 99.99 data
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,194
  • Jan 4, 2019 5:15pm Jan 4, 2019 5:15pm
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Thank you I mean, in general if the control can be done manually, it might be applied automatically to EA as an additional option. The question, 1. How much is the ATR period, with the Timeframe how much is the ATR calculation, according to EA TF or using a larger TF for example H1, H4, D1. 2. The ATR uses 100% or 200% to calculate the pips length. Rgds
I use the daily TF to choose my ATR level, typically 5 trading days. From here I try to set a profit level based on 55% of the ATR value * $per pip. I use EU as the baseline where it is $1 per 0.10 lot size. In a typical day, EU has a range of about 90 pips or $90. Based on this, I set my TP @ 55% of the daily range, which is about $50 (depending on your account size, you would adjust this upwards or downwards).

85% of the time, when trading with the 4hr trend, I normally hit my target within 12 hours, the other 15% of the time, if I feel the trend is still strong, I let the sequence of trades ride until the next day or if I feel the trend has changed, I close out all trades in that sequence no matter the $ loss. Example of this was GU, I entered a short on Jan 3rd at 4AM my broker time (shouldn't have done this based on the pin bar that formed), when I woke up the next morning, the GU sequence of trades was already 10 deep, lucky there was a bit of a pullback on the final 2 position allowing me to close out the sequence at about $150 loss. Considering, I was already up $700 for the day, why take the risk and let the sequence of trades run and be faced with a floating loss of up to 35% of the account.

I typically scan, 10 pairs per night, choosing the strongest 3 to 5 trending pairs, based on the $50 per pair per sequence, this can net you between $150 to $250 per day.

I use the EA to build positions into the daily trend almost like limit orders but with increasing lots. In cases if you are afraid of blowing your account, you could set a mental stop lose of 2 or 2.5 times the daily ATR. You might end up losing all of your profit for the week or month, but you will live to see another day.

Another point, at the start of a new 4 hour trend, you can let the EA build your positions and just have an open TP, this is where the real fun comes and where you can make big bucks. Your first trade on a new 4 hour trend is used as a buffer for all your remaining daily trends in the same directions, once you determine a trend change, just close out the position.
  • #3,195
  • Jan 4, 2019 5:19pm Jan 4, 2019 5:19pm
Quoting majidlovio
{quote} i can not creat bt 99.90 .please creat bt with a cent account fortfs broker.
Download tickstory Lite and follow the instructions, this should get you to 99.50%.
  • #3,196
  • Jan 4, 2019 5:51pm Jan 4, 2019 5:51pm
Quoting Anpar
{quote} Another point, at the start of a new 4 hour trend, you can let the EA build your positions and just have an open TP, this is where the real fun comes and where you can make big bucks. Your first trade on a new 4 hour trend is used as a buffer for all your remaining daily trends in the same directions, once you determine a trend change, just close out the position.
Here is an example of this, EURAUD started a new downtrend on Oct 15, 2018 and ended on Nov 19, 2018. In just over a month, starting with a $1k account, the EA could have produced $8k in profit (not even optimized), while at the same time generating another $50 per day, manually trading the same daily short trend. This is just one pair, trading 2 or 3 and you see the potential. Now hindsight is 20/20, but again, if you are trading off of 4 hour charts and allowing the EA to build your position, you could possible take 2 or 3 15% losses before you hit the big one and still come out smelling like roses.
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  • #3,197
  • Jan 4, 2019 7:06pm Jan 4, 2019 7:06pm
Quoting Anpar
{quote} Here is an example of this, EURAUD started a new downtrend on Oct 15, 2018 and ended on Nov 19, 2018. In just over a month, starting with a $1k account, the EA could have produced $8k in profit (not even optimized), while at the same time generating another $50 per day, manually trading the same daily short trend. This is just one pair, trading 2 or 3 and you see the potential. Now hindsight is 20/20, but again, if you are trading off of 4 hour charts and allowing the EA to build your position, you could possible take 2 or 3 15% losses before...
Okay, I'll try to add options to the next version by optimizing the addition of the ATR function, with the hope of reducing manual control and reducing DD and of course hoping to increase profits.
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  • #3,198
  • Jan 5, 2019 2:56am Jan 5, 2019 2:56am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} I also never BT with 99.99 data
please make a backtest 99.90% with a cent account and good broker for me.thx
backtest without martingle strategy.
  • #3,199
  • Jan 5, 2019 9:42am Jan 5, 2019 9:42am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} .
Quoting Anapar
{quote} .
what broker do you use for live trading?
  • #3,200
  • Jan 5, 2019 11:13pm Jan 5, 2019 11:13pm
Quoting fabio.g
{quote} {quote} what broker do you use for live trading?
Hi FG

I use several brokers for Live Test for CN and Cent accounts, including JF, Robo, ICm, Exness, FxTm, FxOpen, Alpari, FxDD, and several local brokers.
But I am not yet a full trader, maybe one or two months ahead I plan to migrate from Coder to Trader. And maintenance of existing EA.


Rgds
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