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  • #1,881
  • Jan 2, 2019 4:31am Jan 2, 2019 4:31am
Quoting Magix
{quote} The Trade Explorer HERE is running pretty close to Defaults in the Version 1.b that you have, running on 7 pairs. GBPUSD, EURUSD, GBPJPY, EURJPY, GBPAUD, EURAUD, AUDUSD. On an M1 chart. The Differences: There is no Daily Range restriction and it Runs starting Trade Time 11:00 - 23:50 - Broker time has Daily Close at NY Roll Over. Most of the logic I play with, even though Stochastics M5 and M15 version, will run on the M1 charts. You can move this to longer time frames, BUT!! What you...

Hi Majix,

Is this TE still using default settings? The Tap Out feature seems to be holding nicely!

Happy New Year All!
  • #1,882
  • Jan 2, 2019 8:26am Jan 2, 2019 8:26am
So its been a sad start to 2019 for Hybrid v1.2.

Having almost reached +1000% profit in 8 months, the Hybrid v1.2 account did not survive.

With the weakness of AUD and the strong downtrends since beginning of December, Hybrid could not hold on any longer and blew out.

It was doing so well, and I really thought it would get itself out of the hole like it has done so many times before, but with a -700 pip drop on AJ and near -400 pips drop on AU, the counter trend logic could not hold on any longer.

This has been a learning curve for me and I'll make some adjustments on the next test that should hopefully save the account if it should get in this kind of situation again. The adjustments mainly being a larger time delay and larger step lot to spread out the counter trend orders a bit more. It might mean a longer recovery period, but a recovery none the less, and better than a blown account lol.

Attached you can see the account stats shortly before blowing out.
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  • #1,883
  • Jan 2, 2019 10:06am Jan 2, 2019 10:06am
Quoting mrdfx
So its been a sad start to 2019 for Hybrid v1.2. Having almost reached +1000% profit in 8 months, the Hybrid v1.2 account did not survive. With the weakness of AUD and the strong downtrends since beginning of December, Hybrid could not hold on any longer and blew out. It was doing so well, and I really thought it would get itself out of the hole like it has done so many times before, but with a -700 pip drop on AJ and near -400 pips drop on AU, the counter trend logic could not hold on any longer. This has been a learning curve for me...
That is such a shame! 1000%

Would you consider using Tap Out as a measure against such a loss?
  • #1,884
  • Jan 2, 2019 10:07am Jan 2, 2019 10:07am
Quoting mrdfx
So its been a sad start to 2019 for Hybrid v1.2. Having almost reached +1000% profit in 8 months, the Hybrid v1.2 account did not survive. With the weakness of AUD and the strong downtrends since beginning of December, Hybrid could not hold on any longer and blew out. It was doing so well, and I really thought it would get itself out of the hole like it has done so many times before, but with a -700 pip drop on AJ and near -400 pips drop on AU, the counter trend logic could not hold on any longer. This has been a learning curve for me...
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Thanks for sharing. Interesting insight into this. I hope you find the best settings to avoid this in the future. Was this set to 24hr trades? Do you mind sharing the step lot and time delay, I'd like to compare it to what I have set.
  • #1,885
  • Jan 2, 2019 11:33am Jan 2, 2019 11:33am
Quoting flylohudmo
{quote} That is such a shame! 1000% Would you consider using Tap Out as a measure against such a loss?
Hybrid v1.2 does not have the TapOut function, but from seeing Magix's tests and my own back testing using TapOut did not help in saving the account.


Quoting johnsmith2nd
{quote} b Thanks for sharing. Interesting insight into this. I hope you find the best settings to avoid this in the future. Was this set to 24hr trades? Do you mind sharing the step lot and time delay, I'd like to compare it to what I have set.
Yes Hybrid v1.2 trades 24/5, and I was using a 300 time delays with a 50 step lot. Looking back 50 was quite aggressive but it held up for 8 months.

In my live account I am using 300 time delay with 100 step lot, but I am considering increasing the step lot further to spread the orders even more, and setting the Xuicide_Level_Start to 5 or 10 instead of 0. This should hopefully reduce the DD and also the risk of blowing the account when there is a +500 pip move.
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  • #1,886
  • Jan 2, 2019 5:04pm Jan 2, 2019 5:04pm
Well now my fixed lot demo account has also fallen to the same fate as my sum one and MRDFX's 8 month one. The Aussie dip has wiped it off the face off the earth!

It looks like AUDJPY was the main bandit with AUDUSD not helping. I'm not sure how to protect an account running hybrid from this sort of thing in the future, maybe very low lot sizing, TapOut feature, and more spacing between orders.

I have some m5 demos running on higher step order and delays but I only started them this week and so have dodged this big cycle. Today I also setup an account running on the same settings as the Summ start one that almost hit 200% in 3 months before blowing before xmas - with the one difference being TapOut enabled. So I will keep you guys posted on these.


Edit: I've also noticed that when accounts have been blown on hybrid, in my experience, it is often Yen pairs - AUDJPY this time, EUR/JPY and GBP/JPY before - I wonder if there is anything in that?

Green pips to all
  • #1,887
  • Jan 2, 2019 5:15pm Jan 2, 2019 5:15pm
So the flash crash tonight wiped out my Hybrid M5 and Stochs2 accounts.

I think a lot of people have blown their accounts tonight...
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  • #1,888
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:12am Jan 3, 2019 1:12am
like others, my Hybrid accounts were wiped out.......hope to get recovery soon.
  • #1,889
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:20am Jan 3, 2019 1:20am
Phew,

No dramas on my accounts. Had no open trades luckily. Only running EURUSD and USDCAD.

Are we able to backtest with various settings to see if it would have survived this crash? Is that a 'quick'n'dirty' way of checking out whether low spacing, tap out etc would have helped?

This certainly appears the Achilles heel of Hybrid, and fidning a solution is imperative for its success. I am sure we can do it if we pool our minds together.
  • #1,890
  • Jan 3, 2019 3:15am Jan 3, 2019 3:15am
Quoting mrdfx
So the flash crash tonight wiped out my Hybrid M5 and Stochs2 accounts. I think a lot of people have blown their accounts tonight... {image} {image}
thanks for info, Buddy...luckily my accounts survived even though trading 10 pairs...using sum startlot 0.01, ADR-based step, just Magix scalp and Xucide=0, time delay 300, daily range 3-4000, profittarget 3-5-10, MACD level 25

Happy trading, jdva
I never lose - either I win or I learn...
  • #1,891
  • Jan 3, 2019 12:10pm Jan 3, 2019 12:10pm
Quoting jdva
{quote} thanks for info, Buddy...luckily my accounts survived even though trading 10 pairs...using sum startlot 0.01, ADR-based step, just Magix scalp and Xucide=0, time delay 300, daily range 3-4000, profittarget 3-5-10, MACD level 25 Happy trading, jdva
How you do ADR step baced on sum being setup in settings if i may ask?
  • #1,892
  • Jan 3, 2019 2:04pm Jan 3, 2019 2:04pm
Nothing like a 100+ pip spread to fuck up testing...

CRIPES!
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  • #1,893
  • Jan 4, 2019 2:01am Jan 4, 2019 2:01am
Quoting ThePit
{quote} How you do ADR step baced on sum being setup in settings if i may ask?
As you are a FF member just a few weeks I wonder which EA version you are referring to...?
I never lose - either I win or I learn...
  • #1,894
  • Jan 5, 2019 3:10am Jan 5, 2019 3:10am
Quoting jdva
{quote} thanks for info, Buddy...luckily my accounts survived even though trading 10 pairs...using sum startlot 0.01, ADR-based step, just Magix scalp and Xucide=0, time delay 300, daily range 3-4000, profittarget 3-5-10, MACD level 25 Happy trading, jdva
Hi Jdva, Can you share your complete settings? for your two TE accounts?
  • #1,895
  • Jan 5, 2019 9:46am Jan 5, 2019 9:46am
Quoting benjaminyaon
{quote} Hi Jdva, Can you share your complete settings? for your two TE accounts?
...done that already in the post!
What about to communicating your own suggestions/ideas here instead of always asking others!? BTW, buddies can see everything in my TEs !

Nice weekend, jdva
I never lose - either I win or I learn...
  • #1,896
  • Jan 5, 2019 5:11pm Jan 5, 2019 5:11pm
Quoting jdva
{quote} ...done that already in the post! What about to communicating your own suggestions/ideas here instead of always asking others!? BTW, buddies can see everything in my TEs ! Nice weekend, jdva
thank jdva, i will look it up, i am a beginner here, so not yet able to contribute much. I will try to learn as much and share all I have. best.
  • #1,897
  • Jan 7, 2019 1:22pm Jan 7, 2019 1:22pm
We saw all what happens that day when spreads go to hundred and have a 2-400 pips move in 30 minutes it doesnt go well my account survived its still in high DD do to wide spread on possisions to timedelay,but what if add a different tapout system that will only work when using one possision martingale but at 30% closing out oldest possisions until down to 25% and the start opening new ones because if you let out some steam you loose possisions for 50-75 pips and then it turns around and gaines 100-150 you would still be up 50 pips just dont blow account i dont say it will be just like that everytime,but belive in the long run that would work well,but will only work if only use one size on all possisionsJUST A IDEA FOT THE GREATE MAKER
  • #1,898
  • Jan 7, 2019 1:42pm Jan 7, 2019 1:42pm
Quoting ThePit
We saw all what happens that day when spreads go to hundred and have a 2-400 pips move in 30 minutes it doesnt go well my account survived its still in high DD do to wide spread on possisions to timedelay,but what if add a different tapout system that will only work when using one possision martingale but at 30% closing out oldest possisions until down to 25% and the start opening new ones because if you let out some steam you loose possisions for 50-75 pips and then it turns around and gaines 100-150 you would still be up 50 pips just dont blow...
Also it might be feasible if every 5 or 10 positions the grid gets wider so you don't end up with 30 negative positions in a 300 pip drop
  • #1,899
  • Jan 13, 2019 2:57pm Jan 13, 2019 2:57pm
Update on Dax Dow Nq:
IFCMarkets demo; allows cfd trading from 0.01 lot. The account is automatically closed and re-opened every month.
This is the January 2019 open and closed trades report up to now. TE in my profile page.
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  • #1,900
  • Jan 13, 2019 6:53pm Jan 13, 2019 6:53pm
Quoting RisingSun
Update on Dax Dow Nq: IFCMarkets demo; allows cfd trading from 0.01 lot. The account is automatically closed and re-opened every month. This is the January 2019 open and closed trades report up to now. TE in my profile page. {image}
Hi!, Do you close positions at the end of the week/day?
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