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  • #121
  • Oct 11, 2006 2:09pm Oct 11, 2006 2:09pm
Harry:

I think testing EA's are like being on a diet. Weighing yourself every day doesn't really tell you much. Jumping on the scale at the end of every week or two weeks may give a better feeling for what is going on. I've got an Excel spreadsheet going that will track every trade as a total PL and will track every pair as a total PL for that pair as well. I'm keeping the defaults as is (as are?) and will run the EA for the month to see how things work out. I'll show the results every few days as well. I can't remeber my demo account login info right now, thought I'd take a quick peek at work, so I'll see what's up when I get back to the house.....

As far as what I want P4 to do for me...Let me retire tomorrow. Is that too much to ask? My future is in your hands....
  • #122
  • Oct 11, 2006 2:29pm Oct 11, 2006 2:29pm
3 more reports. Again, the North Finance account was started about a day late.
So far I've been only forward testing 6 pairs but will start all 'supported' currencies within an hour or so. Just gives a better picture I suppose.<?xml:namespace prefix = u1 /><u1></u1><?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o></o>

I think you are right Palmer about what you say that it more useful to wait a while and not look into the individual daily report too much. Nevertheless it gives a good picture about the differences people seem to be finding at the moment with the different traders. My accounts for instance haven’t been behaving as good as some others on this forum, just trying to figure out what the cause could be.<u1></u1><o></o>

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Looking forward to see how <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City> will battle with all that's waiting to happen 2morrow too!<u1></u1><o></o>


Have fun everybody ;-)<o></o>
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  • #123
  • Oct 11, 2006 6:34pm Oct 11, 2006 6:34pm
On my live account there is almost no change in earnings from yesterday. Equity inched up a few pips. Demo results are in the zip file.
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  • #124
  • Oct 11, 2006 8:31pm Oct 11, 2006 8:31pm
where can i get the latest EA? in the 1st post?

TIA
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  • #125
  • Oct 11, 2006 9:33pm Oct 11, 2006 9:33pm
Hendrick,

I'm looking forward to reading your interview...haven't quite got to it yet. Also, interesting reading is your "risk challenge." You sound pretty confident!

My results for the past two days are a little disconcerting. I had three consecutive losses. One trade was entered before the new updated version. It was on the usdjpy. The other two losses were eurusd & usdcad both entered on 10/9. There was a profit for the gbpjpy entered on 10/9. See the attached statement for details.

1Trader2
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File Type: doc Phoenix v4_2 10-10 to 10-11-06.doc   87 KB | 428 downloads
  • #126
  • Oct 12, 2006 1:09am Oct 12, 2006 1:09am
Hey Palmer,

I agree. Let's give Phoenix some time to develop its trades.

Quoting Palmer
Harry:

I think testing EA's are like being on a diet. Weighing yourself every day doesn't really tell you much. Jumping on the scale at the end of every week or two weeks may give a better feeling for what is going on. I've got an Excel spreadsheet going that will track every trade as a total PL and will track every pair as a total PL for that pair as well. I'm keeping the defaults as is (as are?) and will run the EA for the month to see how things work out. I'll show the results every few days as well. I can't remeber my demo account login info right now, thought I'd take a quick peek at work, so I'll see what's up when I get back to the house.....

As far as what I want P4 to do for me...Let me retire tomorrow. Is that too much to ask? My future is in your hands....
  • #127
  • Oct 12, 2006 1:10am Oct 12, 2006 1:10am
Quoting 1trader2
Hendrick,

I'm looking forward to reading your interview...haven't quite got to it yet. Also, interesting reading is your "risk challenge." You sound pretty confident!

My results for the past two days are a little disconcerting. I had three consecutive losses. One trade was entered before the new updated version. It was on the usdjpy. The other two losses were eurusd & usdcad both entered on 10/9. There was a profit for the gbpjpy entered on 10/9. See the attached statement for details.

1Trader2
Hi,

We have to give it time. Keep us posted.
  • #128
  • Oct 12, 2006 2:45am Oct 12, 2006 2:45am
Kenari,

I believe that Hendrick is overwriting the file in the first post with any new updates. I assume.

Quoting kenari05
where can i get the latest EA? in the 1st post?

TIA
  • #129
  • Oct 12, 2006 3:20am Oct 12, 2006 3:20am
OK ... in the morning the results are so far:

IBFX: $10570 equity
StrategyBuilder: $9353 equity
SpaceFX: 11265 equity

Statements will be posted in the afternoon.
Just my 2 pips worth
  • #130
  • Oct 12, 2006 3:21am Oct 12, 2006 3:21am
One thing that I noticed is that running on DEMO accounts may not give a true indication of the performance of a particular EA due to the brokers switching off the demo feeds. Today in the morning I've noticed that 2 out of 3 brokers had "no connection" error message. Hard to tell how long they were "out" for but it doesn't give Phoenix the opportunity to have continuity like in the championship.

Maybe have to switch to micro accounts and do tests live? At least that way you know that the price feed will not be switched off on you.
Just my 2 pips worth
  • #131
  • Oct 12, 2006 3:24am Oct 12, 2006 3:24am
Anybody has good (or bad) experiences with MT4 brokers providing micro or mini accounts? I'd be looking to open up some accounts, preferably one in US and one in EU. Any suggestions? (apart from the obvious ones like FXDD, IBFX, Nueimex or SpaceVision).

Maybe I should ask this question on a seperate thread?
Just my 2 pips worth
  • #132
  • Oct 12, 2006 3:25am Oct 12, 2006 3:25am
8th report- North Finance demo on 12 pairs. Started on Sep 24.

Balance - 12 209.70
Equity - 11 745.24


Results, graphic file and settings .doc attached.

A few loses in past 2 days and negative Float has increased. This has to be expected as no EA that I have tested wins every day or every week. I'm demo trading 12 pairs and with win/loss ratio of ~4:1, I expect to see loses of ~4 to 5 in a row once in a while. Novices that just happened to start testing Phoenix this week, usually bail out at this point and complain that the EA is junk. With a win/loss ratio of ~4:1 , I'll use this EA everyday, anyday. I also believe that the win/loss ratio will even get better over time.

As stated before, it is the long haul that determines how good an EA is.

Today, wins are back, 3 in a row.

Wackena
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File Type: zip Phoenix v4.2.zip   18 KB | 426 downloads
  • #133
  • Oct 12, 2006 3:56am Oct 12, 2006 3:56am
Hi Hendrick

Prompt in what ranges of values it is necessary to spend optimization. Write in figures. On pair eurchf for last 6 months it is accomplished on backtest only 29 transactions. Means it is necessary to expand a time range for optimization to receive more than 100 transactions in backtest?
  • #134
  • Oct 12, 2006 4:03am Oct 12, 2006 4:03am
Hi

Equity appreciation fo the last 3 days of this week on sbfx demo is $200

opening balance : 5000

Regards

Howard
Regards
  • #135
  • Oct 12, 2006 4:10am Oct 12, 2006 4:10am
Quoting saltcafe
Anybody has good (or bad) experiences with MT4 brokers providing micro or mini accounts? I'd be looking to open up some accounts, preferably one in US and one in EU. Any suggestions? (apart from the obvious ones like FXDD, IBFX, Nueimex or SpaceVision).

Maybe I should ask this question on a seperate thread?
Hey saltcafe, I found a very handy thread HERE.

Stockwet gives a good tutorial on how to access the different MT4 brokers' servers using just one program.

This post on page two of the thread has many of the SRV files for both demo and live accounts for the various brokers.

This can be very handy for easy access to several platforms for testing ea's, and may also give you an idea of who to open a mini account with.

Incidentally, I'm running Phoenix on a demo right now with some decent results.
Is your SL my TP?
  • #136
  • Oct 12, 2006 10:41am Oct 12, 2006 10:41am
Here are the results for today.
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File Type: zip 20061012StrategyBuilderFX 4.zip   8 KB | 276 downloads
Just my 2 pips worth
  • #137
  • Oct 12, 2006 10:46am Oct 12, 2006 10:46am
Quoting saltcafe
Here are the results for today.
Looks ok to me! Except Moneytec. I don't trust their demo data feed!
  • #138
  • Oct 12, 2006 10:55am Oct 12, 2006 10:55am
Quoting nikkei
Hi Hendrick

Prompt in what ranges of values it is necessary to spend optimization. Write in figures. On pair eurchf for last 6 months it is accomplished on backtest only 29 transactions. Means it is necessary to expand a time range for optimization to receive more than 100 transactions in backtest?
Hi,

Don't expand the time range. Six months should do to get 100 trades a nice Net Profit and a MD below 10%. A stated before back testing Phoenix is sometimes a hell of job. Will write a manual for this (if I have the time).
  • #139
  • Oct 12, 2006 11:06am Oct 12, 2006 11:06am
Can somebody post the most up to date settings? It has been changed so many times I'm not sure which is the most current.
  • #140
  • Oct 12, 2006 11:59am Oct 12, 2006 11:59am
Settings changed for the USDCHF (much better) and the GBPUSD. I can't edit post #1 so I post it here. Also test reports.
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File Type: zip Phoenix2006_10_12.zip   4 KB | 597 downloads
File Type: zip TR_Phoenix_GBPUSD_06_10A.zip   12 KB | 522 downloads
File Type: zip TR_Phoenix_USDCHF_06_10A.zip   13 KB | 461 downloads
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