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  • Nov 26, 2018 12:20pm Nov 26, 2018 12:20pm
  •  TheSpoof
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Trade on GJ. MTF stochs started to cross up and out of the 20 zone so I closed the trade for +3.7 pips. I hope it isn't just a retracement :-(
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  • Nov 26, 2018 1:10pm Nov 26, 2018 1:10pm
  •  TheSpoof
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Well. I am done for the day. Got my ass handed to me this morning. Not a great start to the week :-(
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  • Nov 26, 2018 2:40pm Nov 26, 2018 2:40pm
  •  4fxonly
  • | Joined Apr 2017 | Status: Member | 296 Posts
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Well. I am done for the day. Got my ass handed to me this morning. Not a great start to the week :-(
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Hello mate. I hope you don't mind if I comment. The GU short was taken just before NY open: I personally don't trade just before that time, and wait even longer if there are news at 13:30 GMT (9:30 EST), but if I was in the short, I would have probably closed and reversed at 13:20 i.e. a couple of bars before your exit, wary though that the long could have turned either in a scalp or a b/e as the price had already been rejected once off the resistance from last Friday. It moved about 12 pips from entry and then reversed, so no damage should have been had. Then the short at 14.15: as you said, 10 pips imho is not enough on GU to move stop to b/e, and even so, why set the stop to 1.8 pips? Unless you have that kind of spread on GU which sounds a bit much to me, I wouldn't go over 1 pip as that would be enough for commission and I don't think the retracement would have taken it out. That trade saw over 30 pips at London close and there was also a re-entry at 15:20 which saw 28 pips.
GJ trade: one might have considered to close at LC as there was what looks like some strong support rejected twice over London morning, the MTF seemed to be flattening, so probably enough reasons to take the money and run, especially to recover the previous loss. Of course 3.7 pips is still better that a poke in the eye with a stick, but, as we had the chance to point out in private, management is much more important than entries in our trading, and only an emotionless mind can deal with the mistakes always waiting behind the corner.
That said, I've been speaking pure hindsight, of course, as I could have done even worse than you given the chance, but I think even after the fact it's still useful to review what happens. At least it is for me.
Anyway keep it going, my friend, and don't play revenge. Trade as small lots as possible for now, until you feel the power again.
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  • Nov 26, 2018 3:35pm Nov 26, 2018 3:35pm
  •  TheSpoof
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{quote}That said, I've been speaking pure hindsight, of course, as I could have done even worse than you given the chance, but I think even after the fact it's still useful to review what happens. At least it is for me. Anyway keep it going, my friend, and don't play revenge. Trade as small lots as possible for now, until you feel the power again.
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  • Nov 26, 2018 3:52pm Nov 26, 2018 3:52pm
  •  4fxonly
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{quote} I'm a millionaire with hindsight :-)
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Aye, me too
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  • Nov 26, 2018 5:33pm Nov 26, 2018 5:33pm
  •  mistakesr
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{quote} I'm a millionaire with hindsight :-)
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Hey Spoof, try what I mentioned in the PM, the M30/H1 MTF stoch combination would most certainly have kept you out of the GU losing trade and as the GJ HTF stochs were 50/50 at best you'd have probably have taken the 10 which is at least half your daily bag.
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  • Nov 26, 2018 8:21pm Nov 26, 2018 8:21pm
  •  haohyip
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Our settings are set to automatically select the next highest time frame. If you want to change the settings to show a different view on your charts you can do that. Just set the "Next Higher Auto" to False and in the Time Frame input choose the time frame you wish to see....
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Hi bobby2,
my CTF is M30, I want to show 4h stoch indicator, how do?
I have try it as you said, but not work, I set the "Next Higher Auto" to False, what input should be in " time frame " ?
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{quote} Hi bobby2, my CTF is M30, I want to show 4h stoch indicator, how do? I have try it as you said, but not work, I set the "Next Higher Auto" to False, what input should be in " time frame " ?
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Unfortunately Bobby no longer participates in this thread. The answer to your question is 240.
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  • Nov 26, 2018 9:15pm Nov 26, 2018 9:15pm
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{quote} Unfortunately Bobby no longer participates in this thread. The answer to your question is 240.
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Hi mistakesr, thanks for answer!

I have put 240, but it cannot show the Stochastic indicator chart correctly, it is different with the Stochastic in 4h chart, even they have same input, where wrong?
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  • Nov 26, 2018 11:03pm Nov 26, 2018 11:03pm
  •  mistakesr
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{quote} Hi mistakesr, thanks for answer! I have put 240, but it cannot show the Stochastic indicator chart correctly, it is different with the Stochastic in 4h chart, even they have same input, where wrong?
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Post a screenshot of the settings and a chart with it on.
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  • Nov 26, 2018 11:58pm Nov 26, 2018 11:58pm
  •  haohyip
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{quote} Post a screenshot of the settings and a chart with it on.
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ok now, need to zoom out the chart
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  • Nov 28, 2018 10:03am Nov 28, 2018 10:03am
  •  TheSpoof
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First trade of the day +11.6. Got taken out by trailing stop just as stochs were turning anyway.
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  • Nov 28, 2018 11:51am Nov 28, 2018 11:51am
  •  TheSpoof
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Trade on GA. MTF stoch was under 50 at the 18:00 mark and down from the daily pivot so I entered when the CTF stoch lined up with the MTF. I manually closed when the trade got to a support area around 1.76215. That was 11.2 pips in the bag. About +23 for the day. Hopefully another successful day tomorrow.
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  • Nov 29, 2018 10:59am Nov 29, 2018 10:59am
  •  TheSpoof
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Trade on the GA. I jumped the gun a bit on this one but since the MTF stoch was crossing the 50 and price was coming off the mid level pivot support I entered and took 30 pips at the S1 level above. Just one trade for the day I think. I am starting to notice that the pivot points are very important to the success of this system. Many failed trades are taken at the pivot points. Care must be taken to not trade into a pivot point even if the stochs are giving a signal as often the price bounces back against you.
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  • Nov 29, 2018 3:40pm Nov 29, 2018 3:40pm
  •  mistakesr
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Trade on the GA. I jumped the gun a bit on this one but since the MTF stoch was crossing the 50 and price was coming off the mid level pivot support I entered and took 30 pips at the S1 level above. Just one trade for the day I think. I am starting to notice that the pivot points are very important to the success of this system. Many failed trades are taken at the pivot points. Care must be taken to not trade into a pivot point even if the stochs are giving a signal as often the price bounces back against you. {image}
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Spoof, are you using daily or weekly pivots?
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  • Nov 29, 2018 3:54pm Nov 29, 2018 3:54pm
  •  TheSpoof
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{quote} Spoof, are you using daily or weekly pivots?
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Daily pivots.
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  • Nov 30, 2018 8:20pm Nov 30, 2018 8:20pm
  •  mistakesr
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Hi guys,

In the past I've refrained from posting the variances I use with this system out of respect but as this thread is just about dead anyway I thought I'd post it up here as it may help someone. If this post offends anyone please let me know and I'll delete it.

I use weekly fib pivots for S&R levels which seem to work as well as anything else and are very close to drawing your own levels on D1 more than often, not surprising really as fib pivots are based on price.

Probably the main difference is although I trade M5 I take a great deal of notice of what the M30 stoch is doing, if its above 50 I won't trade short and if it's below I wont go long. If you can catch the M30 stoch crossing the 50 in either direction there's a good chance you're in for a good ride and way more than the normal 5-15 pips per trade. I still stick to the M5 rules with the MTF M15 stoch crossing the 50 but I always check to see what the M30 is doing plus S&R levels. I only trade 4 pairs and as I'm in Australia they are all Asian pairs, AJ, AU, NU and AN. I use 2 screens, one to take trades on M5 and the other has all 4 pairs fixed to M30 which I continually monitor.

I also use 3 MA's, the 10, 20 and 50 EMA's but they have no bearing on entries, I use the 10 and 20 as a zone for pullbacks and re-entry trades but if I can find one of my pairs with all 3 MA's aligned and widening then I know we're in for a bit of a ride. If price closes over the 50 then it's time to pull the plug.

MM is a very personal thing but until recently I traded a straight 2% of my account however a trading mate of mine in NZ who's a swing trader has convinced me that splitting the 2% in to two separate trades is the way to go and although it's a work in progress he's probably right. At 1%-1.5% (10-15 pips) I take the first half off the table and bring the SL to BE on the other half and let it run. You'll get stopped out quite often at BE on the 2nd half but if the M30 stoch and PA are looking good, even during the Asian session, you can expect anything between 20 and 50 pips on the 2nd half. For those that trade the London session and more volatile pairs some of those runs could be 80-100 pips.

If you look at the two charts I've posted you'll notice a red vertical line on each of them, they are just an example of using the M30 stoch in conjunction with the M5 rules. Hope this helps someone and doesn't confuse too much.

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  • Nov 30, 2018 10:06pm Nov 30, 2018 10:06pm
  •  devpat21
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what are the green arrows showing on the chart ?
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  • Nov 30, 2018 10:53pm Nov 30, 2018 10:53pm
  •  mistakesr
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what are the green arrows showing on the chart ?
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I forgot to take them off sorry. They are a very simple MA cross over indi that we had upgraded by our coder to include other features. My swing trading mate still uses them for entries and he sometimes asks me for opinions on different H4 setups so that's why they're on there.
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  • Dec 1, 2018 4:42am Dec 1, 2018 4:42am
  •  4fxonly
  • | Joined Apr 2017 | Status: Member | 296 Posts
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Hi guys, In the past I've refrained from posting the variances I use with this system out of respect but as this thread is just about dead anyway I thought I'd post it up here as it may help someone....
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That sounds like a sensible and interesting approach, without affecting the main guidelines of the OP. I won't be able to trade live until the new year, but I will keep an eye on your idea. Do you mind posting your fib indi as the one I have does not plot the past weeks while yours seems to do it? Thank you.
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