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  • #2,641
  • Nov 22, 2018 1:02pm Nov 22, 2018 1:02pm
Quoting seller9
I have added a Pivot Button to the Basket Trader TS_v2, there is no v1, which will be coming out in a few days. You can turn Davit's Pivots on or off by clicking this button. These will just be for you to look at and see where the price is in relation to them, they are not used by the TS. Is this something anyone would be interested in? {image}
yes sir. that is good.

i still attached the pivot that i use.
for some reason, i cannot attach these pivots to the basket so that option you added is so nice.

thank you.

ok, going to eat turkey now.
enjoy your thanksgiving everybody.
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When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #2,642
  • Nov 22, 2018 4:48pm Nov 22, 2018 4:48pm
My core5 basket just keeps getting smashed - really need a nice long trend one way or the other to make up for all these whipsaws....
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  • #2,643
  • Nov 22, 2018 5:08pm Nov 22, 2018 5:08pm
Quoting seller9
I have added a Pivot Button to the Basket Trader TS_v2, there is no v1, which will be coming out in a few days. You can turn Davit's Pivots on or off by clicking this button. These will just be for you to look at and see where the price is in relation to them, they are not used by the TS. Is this something anyone would be interested in? {image}
Sorry Gene as I don't have any experience of Davit's Pivots can't comment. Will leave that to some of the experts here. Looking forward to Basket Trader v2 for further exploration cheers
  • #2,644
  • Nov 22, 2018 5:23pm Nov 22, 2018 5:23pm
Watch the GBP Basket for possible BO.

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  • #2,645
  • Nov 22, 2018 6:29pm Nov 22, 2018 6:29pm
Quoting seller9
Watch the GBP Basket for possible BO. {image}
Short BO?
When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #2,646
  • Nov 23, 2018 4:08am Nov 23, 2018 4:08am
Quoting Pip Poppy
My core5 basket just keeps getting smashed - really need a nice long trend one way or the other to make up for all these whipsaws.... {image} {image}
Hi Pip Poppy from my tests of HAS baskets so far it seems once the trade is opened in the wrong direction we are rapidly into the deep red without much hope of recovery soon but conversely if the setup is good we are immediately in the green and growing. So starting to realise cutting losses early and getting out one n done is preferable to taking a big hit. Also running multiple parallel setups with different criteria is potentially improving the risk reward ratio per trading period. Perhaps this is already obvious to the experts here nevertheless worth a mention. Cheers
  • #2,647
  • Nov 23, 2018 5:07am Nov 23, 2018 5:07am
Quoting John-Wick
Okay guys this time I hope all goes well. Three pair basket created for breakout. GBPAUD GBPCAD GBPNZD all in Range {image}
Total crap result guys closed manually. I created this demo account with 500 amount to test how it would preform. This week is over will try next week new basket.
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  • #2,648
  • Nov 23, 2018 6:36am Nov 23, 2018 6:36am
Quoting Pip Poppy
My core5 basket just keeps getting smashed - really need a nice long trend one way or the other to make up for all these whipsaws.... {image} {image}
I was getting mixed results with the HAS Basket, so I have moved to S9_Trend_BO_Basket_TS_v3 with movable Trend BO lines, which I can adjust to meet expected news events or each way action. I have also started evaluating the colored HullMA(21) to give me averaged Highs and Lows, rather than Fractal ones, this would have been a winner today, except I forgot to turn on the TS in the DB:

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  • #2,649
  • Edited 7:06am Nov 23, 2018 6:54am | Edited 7:06am
Some further results today.

AUD+NZD Basket, Trend BO, Asian Open, started with DD, but finally broke with profit:

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JPY Basket, Trend BO, Asian open

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GBP Basket, Trend BO, Asian open, so far no break today:

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DM60+1440HM, no trades yet
  • #2,650
  • Nov 23, 2018 8:37am Nov 23, 2018 8:37am
Quoting seller9
I have added a Pivot Button to the Basket Trader TS_v2, there is no v1, which will be coming out in a few days. You can turn Davit's Pivots on or off by clicking this button. These will just be for you to look at and see where the price is in relation to them, they are not used by the TS. Is this something anyone would be interested in? {image}
Unfortunately Gene, I don't have any experience with Davit's Pivots, but would like to give it a try. Kindly point me to more info on how this work.
  • #2,651
  • Nov 23, 2018 10:14am Nov 23, 2018 10:14am
Quoting Jstan
{quote} Unfortunately Gene, I don't have any experience with Davit's Pivots, but would like to give it a try. Kindly point me to more info on how this work.
Just do a search on forex factory for Davit
  • #2,652
  • Nov 23, 2018 10:32am Nov 23, 2018 10:32am
Here are some examples of what is to come for those who are posting and have sent me their email address so they can receive the link to download.
If you are posting be sure to send me your email address to me in order to receive the link where you will be able to download the new stuff.

If you want to be kept up to date with the latest all it requires is posting your usage of the software along with screen shots, just posting questions does not count.

Some may not like this but I believe that those who are willing to share should be rewarded for their effort.

This new stuff will probably be available some time later next week as this week was not a good week for testing with the holiday stuck in it.

1) Their will be upgrades to the present 3 basket TSs that will have an added button for doing manual add to trades.
2) Their will be a new TS called S9_Basket_Trader_TS that will be geared toward the trader that wants to be more involved in how he sets up his trades and will be geared towards using break out lines. This TS will also include the Davit Pivot lines that can be shown on the chart but are not used by the TS, they are just for your reference only.
3) A new Dash Board that will have a couple more buttons to help you select pairs for your basket building, these are not filters. You can see what they are in the screen shot below.

Here is the new Dash Board showing 3 TDI picks.
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Here are the 3 TDI picks
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Here is the same offline chart with the Davit Pivots shown for your reference.[attach]
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  • #2,653
  • Nov 23, 2018 12:18pm Nov 23, 2018 12:18pm
Quoting seller9
Here are some examples of what is to come for those who are posting and have sent me their email address so they can receive the link to download. If you are posting be sure to send me your email address to me in order to receive the link where you will be able to download the new stuff. If you want to be kept up to date with the latest all it requires is posting your usage of the software along with screen shots, just posting questions does not count. Some may not like this but I believe that those who are willing to share should be rewarded for...
Thank you Gene very much looking forward to it all. In the meantime here are some more results.
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  • #2,654
  • Nov 23, 2018 12:35pm Nov 23, 2018 12:35pm
Quoting seller9
Here are some examples of what is to come for those who are posting and have sent me their email address so they can receive the link to download. If you are posting be sure to send me your email address to me in order to receive the link where you will be able to download the new stuff. If you want to be kept up to date with the latest all it requires is posting your usage of the software along with screen shots, just posting questions does not count. Some may not like this but I believe that those who are willing to share should be rewarded for...
Hi Gene could you please help me out here as I still seem to be confused re HAS Basket TS parameters.

The attached setup didn't get trigger as intended overnight on HAS BO Line Break. I guess this is because I had set Use_HAS_Color_Change_Entry = true ? If so could you please confirm that:- if I want the trade to initiate on the NEXT BO line break irrespective of color change, then I should just use Use_HAS_Direction_Entry = true and Use_BO_Line_Break only = true without any color related options set?

Thanks in advance.
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  • #2,655
  • Nov 23, 2018 1:39pm Nov 23, 2018 1:39pm
Quoting seller9
Here are some examples of what is to come for those who are posting and have sent me their email address so they can receive the link to download. If you are posting be sure to send me your email address to me in order to receive the link where you will be able to download the new stuff. If you want to be kept up to date with the latest all it requires is posting your usage of the software along with screen shots, just posting questions does not count. Some may not like this but I believe that those who are willing to share should be rewarded for...
Great the new updates look good, should give us plenty of options for Basket trading. I too have not used Davit's method, however, I have performed some other levels trading methods so I look forward to trying it out.

All my trading has finished for this week, so no more updates on my trading trials until next week. I'm really enjoying the Basket trading with Trend_BO_TS though, been able to move the break lines around allows for more meaningful and accurate BO line placement, as a result I'm getting some good results.
  • #2,656
  • Nov 23, 2018 2:40pm Nov 23, 2018 2:40pm
Quoting fairtraderuk
{quote} Hi Gene could you please help me out here as I still seem to be confused re HAS Basket TS parameters. The attached setup didn't get trigger as intended overnight on HAS BO Line Break. I guess this is because I had set Use_HAS_Color_Change_Entry = true ? If so could you please confirm that:- if I want the trade to initiate on the NEXT BO line break irrespective of color change, then I should just use Use_HAS_Direction_Entry = true and Use_BO_Line_Break only = true without any color related options set? Thanks in advance. {image} {image}
1) If you only want to trade when the price breaks either of the BO lines set all HAS to false and one of the BO choices to true.

2) If you only want to take trades using HAS direction or color change then set one of the HAS selections to true and the BO settings to false.

3) If you want to take BO trades only in the direction of the HAS then set HAS direction to true and BO to true.

4) If you only want to take trades BO trades when the HAS changes color and in the same direction as the HAS set HAS color change to true and BO to true.

5) The hold last color change works with the color change setting and when set to true will wait for a color change and then the HAS will now be a direction HAS and not a color change HAS, of course if you open the settings and click OK this last hold on the color change gets erased and you then have to wait for the next color change to lock it in. It will of course change to the opposite direction once a new color change comes along.

The best way to use these settings if you want to use HAS color change and BO are:
These settings will get you in at close to the start of a color change:

Use_HAS_Color_Change_Entry = true
Hold_Last_Color_Change_Entry = true
Use_HAS_Direction_Entry = false
Use_HAS_Color_Change_Exit = Your Choice

Use_BO_Line_Break = true
Use-BO_Line_Candle_Close_Break = false

Just remember when using the last hold if you open the settings and click OK the last held HAS setting will get erased and you are back to the starting point and will have to wait for the next color change to start the sequence over again.

It is not advisable not to use the Hold setting when using color change and BO as you may miss an entry because the HAS color change and line BO don't always happen at the same time. So by using the hold the color change is held and becomes a direction signal until the next color change then it becomes a direction in the opposite direction. The color change without the hold is mainly used if someone wants to trade from color change to color change and not use the BO.

In your settings you have color change and direction both turned on, you can't do that, only one at a time as one will cancel the other if they are not both true.
Remember the color change signal is only present for one candle then goes away unless the hold is turned on.

Red Candle - Blue Candle - On 3rd candle after the first 2 are closed you will get a long signal in this case and after the 3rd candle closes it goes away unless hold is on.

I don't know when you started it up last night but the only way it would have worked is if HAS Direction was true and BO was true and everything else false if you wanted to wait for a line BO in the HAS direction.
It would have then taken a short trade when one of the red dot fractal lines was broken depending on the time started, I see there are several possible triggers depending on the time started.
  • #2,657
  • Nov 23, 2018 3:27pm Nov 23, 2018 3:27pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Great the new updates look good, should give us plenty of options for Basket trading. I too have not used Davit's method, however, I have performed some other levels trading methods so I look forward to trying it out. All my trading has finished for this week, so no more updates on my trading trials until next week. I'm really enjoying the Basket trading with Trend_BO_TS though, been able to move the break lines around allows for more meaningful and accurate BO line placement, as a result I'm getting some good results.
I haven't used Davit's method either, these are just a couple of the things that are used in that method. I am waiting for someone to post a step by step logical way of just how it works to pick a trade, seems a little fuzzy logic is involved. LOL

The TDI I believe was created by Malone ( forgot his first name) of Compass FX and Pivots are nothing new, there are a bunch of different pivots and the way they are calculated.

Its like I have always said, "Put enough lines on a chart and the price will eventually hit one of them" LOL
  • #2,658
  • Nov 23, 2018 3:40pm Nov 23, 2018 3:40pm
Remember:

For those wanting the new software and updates when they come out you need to post screen shots of what you are doing and how you are using the software.

Also send me your email address so I can send you the link so you can download them.

[email protected]

I do not have the addresses of previous users so I am building a fresh list of present users that are posting.

Only those sharing and posting in this forum will be able to get any new or updated software.

In the past in my other forums I would post all software in the forum and there would thousands of downloads and only a hand full of traders willing to share with others how they were using it. So to make it fare to those willing to help others I believe this new method of distributing the software is a better way to show appreciation to those making an effort to post and help others.

I will probably have some new software and updates available sometime next week, I need to make a couple of vids yet when the market opens next week.
  • #2,659
  • Nov 23, 2018 4:27pm Nov 23, 2018 4:27pm
Quoting fairtraderuk
{quote} Hi Pip Poppy from my tests of HAS baskets so far it seems once the trade is opened in the wrong direction we are rapidly into the deep red without much hope of recovery soon but conversely if the setup is good we are immediately in the green and growing. So starting to realise cutting losses early and getting out one n done is preferable to taking a big hit. Also running multiple parallel setups with different criteria is potentially improving the risk reward ratio per trading period. Perhaps this is already obvious to the experts here nevertheless...
Hi fairtraderuk,
HAS is too slow to react in volatile baskets and the way that Seller9 has the BO set that can miss the breakout as happened with the Core5 overnight where price just blasted past the BO line without having a bar close above it so instead of being in nice profit the TS took the trade very late in the 'trend' and is now in DD.
Sorry, no picture - have just closed all my terminals for a refresh.
I started looking into the non-lag AMA and that was looking promising until I realised that there is some repainting with the trend colours of the AMA when there is a quick move in the other direction.
Seller9's TDI basket looks promising.
If you're trading live I would look at standing aside from the GBP and EUR baskets for a while
  • #2,660
  • Nov 23, 2018 6:18pm Nov 23, 2018 6:18pm
Quoting seller9
{quote} I haven't used Davit's method either, these are just a couple of the things that are used in that method. I am waiting for someone to post a step by step logical way of just how it works to pick a trade, seems a little fuzzy logic is involved. LOL The TDI I believe was created by Malone ( forgot his first name) of Compass FX and Pivots are nothing new, there are a bunch of different pivots and the way they are calculated. Its like I have always said, "Put enough lines on a chart and the price will eventually hit one of them" LOL
let me try to explain.

Davit method is basically taking only trades when there's a high probability of what price will most likely do when it reaches a certain point or location.
Davit had observed, when price reaches the R levels (R61, R78, R100 or higher), there is a bigger chance of price turning the opposite direction, so we will look for short trade opportunities.
It is the reverse when price reaches the S levels (S61, S78, S100 or lower), we will look for long trade opportunites.

The TDI is an additional tool for confirmation.
When price is at the R levels, we want the TDI lines to be on the top.
When price is at the S levels, we want the TDI lines to be on the bottom.
But wait, it is very important that the TDI lines are looking to turn or crossing before trades are entered (i got burned a couple of times for being too eager to enter trades because i failed to watch this confirmation --patience is the key).

So we will only look for long trade opportunites when price is at S levels and short only opportunities when price is at R levels.

And with the updates you mentioned, we will try to make it simpler.

lets use your chart on post#2644 as Exhibit A, you alerted us to watch the GBP basket for possible BO and i responded, 'Short BO?'.

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I said that because I saw that the TDI lines were at the top and had already crossed.
TDI on top will most likely go down, TDI on bottom will most likely go up.

You know what happened to that basket right?
And this was just the TDI, pivot points were not considered (so the pivots in an 'on and off switch' should be ok).

moving forward, we can create a basket (let say a basket for JPY pairs only, USD only or GBP only or even the new TDI picker you created), then we will see where the TDI location is and we will make a better decision accordingly.
You can also refer to my post #2634, on how i will approach it.

Exit will be:
If short trades were taken, look for PA exhaustion or TDI arrived at the bottom or TDI looking to go up.
If long trades were taken, PA exhaustion or TDI arrived at the top or TDI looking to go down.
And of course, we can use the trailing SL or the EL, or the ADR TP, really depend on trader's appetite.

Davit method does not recommend trading CHF pairs.
Also, like any other method, there is no guarantee of 100% correctness.
But if you will check his thread, Davit has been using this method for more than 2 years now with no change to his approach.
The only change you will see is the lot size he is using now and the size of his account. he is not retired yet. he is still building his account patiently.

Somebody might think, why am i here then.
That is because I really like the DB as a trade manager. Seller9's previous threads is also where I spent most of my 'elementary years'. So basically, this is home to me.

I will definitely give some more examples once new software is provided.

Hope this helps.

(For sure, my longest post in FF ... lolol)
When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
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