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  • Nov 21, 2018 10:34am Nov 21, 2018 10:34am
  •  claudia1
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Quoting 3ndlessHope
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What feedback are you looking for?
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Anyway - look how busy the thread is. Check your mail in a few mins.
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  • Nov 21, 2018 10:37am Nov 21, 2018 10:37am
  •  reteid2222
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{quote} @retina - not getting any feed back on this - close it down and continue our own way ?
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Everything looks fine!
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  • Nov 21, 2018 10:38am Nov 21, 2018 10:38am
  •  claudia1
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{quote} Everything looks fine!
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Everythings fine just very quiet !
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  •  ziggetty
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{quote} Everythings fine just very quiet !
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silence for the storm....

just doing sum tests, but not ready yet to post results

and as always just reading and thanx for the music...oh no thats so... abba

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  • Nov 21, 2018 5:37pm Nov 21, 2018 5:37pm
  •  LuXing
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Quoting claudia1
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{quote} @retina - not getting any feed back on this - close it down and continue our own way ?
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I gave feedback in this post, but clearly failed as scrum master.

If Claudia's simple dreams EA is to succeed short term (measured in terms of member participation), modifications are needed.
Trading is a game of getting the upper hand objectively observing a large number of trades and its frequency distribution.
A breakout EA - IMHO - is the closest one can get you a coin toss: heads or tails.
It doesn't matter what way the market goes or the direction it breaks out, as long as in the long run the results are positive.

Finding the right combo (pair, timeframe, session, min/max range, ...) is an arduous task.
Of course forward testing is fun, but it's a hit or miss thing and it will take at least 6-12 months to get a grasp of what is working and what is not. 6-12 months on 1 pair that is... Which is why most people lose interest quickly.

Run a backtest from the 2nd Jan 2017 - 16th Nov 2018 using the zipped .set file in attach (I used the Claudia's dreams V2.00 EA to run the test, spread 5 points) and compare your results to "mine" to see the differences.

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The first thing you will notice is that the equity curve using "your" EA V2.00 starts sloping down the moment the first daylight savings time occurs !

The EA user wants to place a breakout order 1 hour into the London session, but in reality it's placing it during Frankfurt Open or maybe 2 hours into the London session. That is a huge difference in the long run and it is impossible to get a proof of concept using backtesting and looking for profitable combos.

Realistically, based on a representative trade sample size using a breakout EA you will get a hitrate of 50-ish % and be able to get a profit factor between 1.35-2.0, a return to DD ratio of 4.5-10 over a +10 year period. Full auto, full stop.

To achieve this, you will need the elements I outlined in my first post in this thread.
1. Implementation of DST
2. Time reference offset for open/close trades in minutes (Sydney (daily) open/close, Tokyo open/close, London open/close and NY open/close).
i.e.: set buy stop 30 minutes after Tokyo open, using a 150 minutes reference candle for breakout with TP 15/SL 20 pips.
i.e. 2: set buy stop 60 minutes after London open, using a 240 minutes reference candle for breakout with TP open / SL reference candle size in pips, move stoploss to breakeven at 50 pips and close out trade at London close -60 minutes.

Speaking about handing things on a silver platter, the equity curve screenshot above corresponds to example #2.

I have not tested most pairs yet, but to give you an idea of a balanced (using return to DD ratio as main risk criterion) breakout portfolio, see the pdf.

Happy trading.
LuXing
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  • Nov 21, 2018 5:45pm Nov 21, 2018 5:45pm
  •  claudia1
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{quote} I gave feedback in this post, but clearly failed as scrum master. If Claudia's simple dreams EA is to succeed short term (measured in terms of member participation), modifications are needed. Trading is a game of getting the upper hand objectively observing a large number of trades and its frequency distribution. A breakout EA - IMHO - is the closest one can get you a coin toss: heads or tails. It doesn't matter what way the market goes or the direction it breaks...
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Thanks for detailed post. I don't believe you understand what we are doing here - has nothing to do with London or Frankfurt. That is actually the whole point !

Subscribe to me there's an explorer up.
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  • Nov 21, 2018 6:04pm Nov 21, 2018 6:04pm
  •  LuXing
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{quote} I don't believe you understand what we are doing here
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Hi Claudia,

Well, I see 2 main scenarios of what you gals are trying to do;

1. Try to develop an EA that generates profits requiring minimal intervention or even better - unattended
2. Have an in depth discussion of daylight savings time, trading session opening times and the way these affect our bodily functions and whathaveyounot ;-)

I have been and will continue to work on scenario #1.
Having said that and reading your comment, I must have misread post #1 and completely missed the "raison d'ętre" of this thread.
Oh well, not to worry. At least I handed the keys, it is up to you guys to fire up the engine of the F1 car.

Cheers,
LuXing
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  • Nov 21, 2018 6:11pm Nov 21, 2018 6:11pm
  •  claudia1
  • Joined Apr 2013 | Status: Member | 12,652 Posts
Ok - scenario 1 is the way agree totally.

Things have changed a lot since we set out. Check out the explorer you'll see what I mean.

Thanks for the input.
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  • Nov 21, 2018 7:53pm Nov 21, 2018 7:53pm
  •  rmormar
  • | Joined Mar 2018 | Status: Member | 56 Posts
To check if EA works properly in my platform and specially if I am able to run it, I have set it in your breakout Claudia, and with your template. At the moment, the BO seems to be set right I´m waiting for breakout and open trades. If all is ok with my MT4 platform, tomorrow I can put in in other different time slots and play a bit with it...
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  • Nov 21, 2018 8:50pm Nov 21, 2018 8:50pm
  •  rmormar
  • | Joined Mar 2018 | Status: Member | 56 Posts
Perfect, trade open. Of course, I had not doubt of Retina works, but rather my ability to set up it correctly. Great work Retina and thanks for sharing Claudia.
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  • Nov 21, 2018 9:43pm Nov 21, 2018 9:43pm
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Hi yall. Nice work. Gave it a shot and here it is live! Will keep testing.
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Gold/$ Another winner!
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  • Nov 22, 2018 2:35am Nov 22, 2018 2:35am
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Anyone uses "lots in percent" money management?
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  • Nov 22, 2018 3:44am Nov 22, 2018 3:44am
  •  claudia1
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First losing night still up 15.7% for the week.
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  • Nov 22, 2018 5:50am Nov 22, 2018 5:50am
  •  3ndlessHope
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Still not taking opposite orders for me and there is some issue with "lots in percent" position sizing setting.
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  • Nov 22, 2018 6:26am Nov 22, 2018 6:26am
  •  claudia1
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Still not taking opposite orders for me and there is some issue with "lots in percent" position sizing setting.
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Haven't used "lots in percent" so can't help there. Opposite orders works fine though - wish it hadn't last night.
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  • Nov 22, 2018 10:02am Nov 22, 2018 10:02am
  •  profitman
  • | Joined Aug 2015 | Status: Member | 41 Posts
Had an awesome night with the system in its OOTB form. I must say that in my 10 years in the financial markets, this system makes the most sense and so far it shows. Really liking it and I must tip my hat off and give a warm Texas salute to these fine ladies for their efforts!
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  • Nov 22, 2018 10:09am Nov 22, 2018 10:09am
  •  claudia1
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Had an awesome night with the system in its OOTB form. I must say that in my 10 years in the financial markets, this system makes the most sense and so far it shows. Really liking it and I must tip my hat off and give a warm Texas salute to these fine ladies for their efforts!
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Great to hear and thanks. What pairs you trading and times ?
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  • Nov 22, 2018 10:13am Nov 22, 2018 10:13am
  •  profitman
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{quote} Great to hear and thanks. What pairs you trading and times ?
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Hi and thanks. Well I'm in Houston, TX USA. The ea kicked in last night around 8:00 pm CST and has been going since. Trading E/U, E/J , U/J, USA30, XAU/USD
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  • Nov 22, 2018 10:19am Nov 22, 2018 10:19am
  •  claudia1
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{quote} Hi and thanks. Well I'm in Houston, TX USA. The ea kicked in last night around 8:00 pm CST and has been going since. Trading E/U, E/J , U/J, USA30, XAU/USD
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Interesting - subscribe to me there's an explorer up.
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