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  • #6,801
  • Nov 4, 2018 11:53am Nov 4, 2018 11:53am
Quoting ykn4f
{quote} Trend line intact {image}
Thankyou ykn4f for correction..
  • #6,802
  • Nov 5, 2018 9:48am Nov 5, 2018 9:48am
Quoting Diddyy
Hello AKT, question on NZDUSD{image}{image} Thanks.
Hello Diddyy
Thank you for the question.

I have added some of my thoughts on the charts below.

best wishes
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  • #6,803
  • Nov 6, 2018 1:05am Nov 6, 2018 1:05am
Hello Akt,

I have a question regarding some Zones.

Big Picture
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Zone3:
How would you draw zone 3?
The wick i marked would suggest a tested zone (the continuous line version). But if i would draw the zone like the dotted version the Zone would be considered fresh.

Zone2:
It isn't a good Zone either? Because of the wick? How would you rate this zone?

Zone1:
Pretty nice one, i would say

Thank you.
  • #6,804
  • Nov 6, 2018 3:31am Nov 6, 2018 3:31am
Quoting som3k
Hello Akt, I have a question regarding some Zones. Big Picture {image} 4h {image} Zone3: How would you draw zone 3? The wick i marked would suggest a tested zone (the continuous line version). But if i would draw the zone like the dotted version the Zone would be considered fresh. Zone2: It isn't a good Zone either? Because of the wick? How would you rate this zone? Zone1: Pretty nice one, i would say Thank you.

Hi som3k,

Zone 1: great zone because the location (weekly supply)
Zone 2: in my imho not a supply zone. that wick is a liquidity search into the zone above
Zone 3: there are two 4hr zones inside daily supply.. this would be level on top of level. you can split positions or take the whole zone.

@akt
correct me if I am wrong bro :-)
"Fall in love with the process and the results will follow" - Bradley Whitf
  • #6,805
  • Nov 7, 2018 1:24am Nov 7, 2018 1:24am
Quoting som3k
Hello Akt, I have a question regarding some Zones. Big Picture {image} 4h {image} Zone3: How would you draw zone 3? The wick i marked would suggest a tested zone (the continuous line version). But if i would draw the zone like the dotted version the Zone would be considered fresh. Zone2: It isn't a good Zone either? Because of the wick? How would you rate this zone? Zone1: Pretty nice one, i would say Thank you.
You shouldn't even be taking those zones, they are bad. (with the exception of the highest one)
  • #6,806
  • Nov 8, 2018 1:17am Nov 8, 2018 1:17am
Quoting T4i
{quote} Hi som3k, Zone 1: great zone because the location (weekly supply) Zone 2: in my imho not a supply zone. that wick is a liquidity search into the zone above Zone 3: there are two 4hr zones inside daily supply.. this would be level on top of level. you can split positions or take the whole zone. @akt correct me if I am wrong bro :-)
Thank you T4i.

I took zone 3 as a whole. Let's see how it goes.

Quoting baderocks2
{quote} You shouldn't even be taking those zones, they are bad. (with the exception of the highest one)
Thank you for your reply. Could you explain why this is? This would be very helpful.

Have a nice one
  • #6,807
  • Nov 8, 2018 2:42am Nov 8, 2018 2:42am
Quoting som3k
Hello Akt, I have a question regarding some Zones. Big Picture {image} 4h {image} Zone3: How would you draw zone 3? The wick i marked would suggest a tested zone (the continuous line version). But if i would draw the zone like the dotted version the Zone would be considered fresh. Zone2: It isn't a good Zone either? Because of the wick? How would you rate this zone? Zone1: Pretty nice one, i would say Thank you.
HI,SOM3K
If i may,this is my choice for eur/cad
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  • #6,808
  • Nov 8, 2018 2:51am Nov 8, 2018 2:51am
Quoting Autokon
{quote} HI,SOM3K If i may,this is my choice for eur/cad {image} {image}
So you are already out of the trade? Or do you let it run?
---------------------

Here a Idea on EURAUD:

weekly uptrend. Price inside weekly demand. daily zone inside weekly zone..
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  • #6,809
  • Nov 8, 2018 2:57am Nov 8, 2018 2:57am
Quoting som3k
{quote} So you are already out of the trade? Or do you let it run? --------------------- Here a Idea on EURAUD: weekly uptrend. Price inside weekly demand. daily zone inside weekly zone.. {image}
secured
  • #6,810
  • Nov 8, 2018 9:42am Nov 8, 2018 9:42am
Quoting som3k
{quote} So you are already out of the trade? Or do you let it run? --------------------- Here a Idea on EURAUD: weekly uptrend. Price inside weekly demand. daily zone inside weekly zone.. {image}
EURAUD my Idea

Conservative approach would be to wait for the Daily supply zone to be removed.
Aggressive approach would be to wait for the 4hr supply zone to be removed.
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  • #6,811
  • Nov 8, 2018 10:23pm Nov 8, 2018 10:23pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Diddyy Thank you for the question. I have added some of my thoughts on the charts below. best wishes{image}{image}
Thank you AKT for the reply...AKT, i would like to know when trading stops for you for the year,is it after the first 2 weeks in December, being the fact that we trade institutional order flow and they (the big boys) go on holidays.

Thanks.
  • #6,812
  • Nov 9, 2018 12:52am Nov 9, 2018 12:52am
Hello traders. Please I have a question.

After doing the top down analysis and you find a zone on your entry time frame you'd like to trade, do you still take the trade with confirmation or will the zone be respected because of where the price is at curve and the trend?

The question might seem off but it's something that has been bugging me. Please help. God bless.
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  • #6,813
  • Nov 9, 2018 6:44am Nov 9, 2018 6:44am
Hello AKT,

Hope you and your family are well. I have only recently stumbled on your thread and I find it very informative. I have been going through the pages from page 1 and was wondering if you could help me on where I can start with understanding how to plot SAD zones. I have a basic understanding of SAD and OF and have been studying for the past 2+ years and it has lead me to SAD and OF. I am trying to stay true to myself and my hunger to succeed in trading which I am getting closer to. Please assist me in anyway you can......My family life depends on it.
  • #6,814
  • Nov 11, 2018 12:07am Nov 11, 2018 12:07am
Quoting T4i
{quote} EURAUD my Idea Conservative approach would be to wait for the Daily supply zone to be removed. Aggressive approach would be to wait for the 4hr supply zone to be removed. {image}
Hello T4i

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the EURAUD. I concur

I would like to share some further thoughts on it given the evolution in price action since you kindly shared your charts.

best wishes
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  • #6,815
  • Nov 11, 2018 12:12am Nov 11, 2018 12:12am
Quoting Muna93
Hello traders. Please I have a question. After doing the top down analysis and you find a zone on your entry time frame you'd like to trade, do you still take the trade with confirmation or will the zone be respected because of where the price is at curve and the trend? The question might seem off but it's something that has been bugging me. Please help. God bless.
Hello Muna93
I don't believe we've met
Welcome to T.I.O.F

If i may, the decision as to whether or not to take a zone is dependent on several factors, not least of all, like you said, doing a top down analysis.
The curve, trend and quality of the zone itself are the factors that speculators are urged to use within the methodology to help decide on one zone over another, and most importantly to gauge the probability of success of a given trade.
High quality zones can and do fail while low quality zones sometimes work a treat. These are exceptions that should be taken into account

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,816
  • Nov 11, 2018 12:18am Nov 11, 2018 12:18am
Quoting Diddyy
{quote} Thank you AKT for the reply...AKT, i would like to know when trading stops for you for the year,is it after the first 2 weeks in December, being the fact that we trade institutional order flow and they (the big boys) go on holidays. Thanks.
Hello Diddyy

Great question. I am sure we all notice that trading activity declines significantly around the holidays.
Mostly everyone is busy with other things around that time.
However, i think you will find that the so-called big money always has an eye on the markets. They must, it's their primary job.
Big moves do sometimes happen hence the term the "Santa claus" rally in stocks mainly but also in forex, geopolitical events can happen anytime and cause movement.

One way i often manage is to trade light during the slow holiday season.. Wish i could eat light as well at those times but ....

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,817
  • Nov 11, 2018 12:23am Nov 11, 2018 12:23am
Quoting C4Real1
Hello AKT, Hope you and your family are well. I have only recently stumbled on your thread and I find it very informative. I have been going through the pages from page 1 and was wondering if you could help me on where I can start with understanding how to plot SAD zones. I have a basic understanding of SAD and OF and have been studying for the past 2+ years and it has lead me to SAD and OF. I am trying to stay true to myself and my hunger to succeed in trading which I am getting closer to. Please assist me in anyway you can......My family life...
Hello C4Real1

Good to meet you & welcome to T.I.O.F

What a great question. The very foundations of the methodology.
One place to start is what you have already done, read the thread. Another resource is the videos on the youtube channel. Going to start making more in the new year.

We could also do a free webinar and go through the basics again, ready for the new year. Let's do that. We haven't done one in a while here.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,818
  • Nov 11, 2018 1:50am Nov 11, 2018 1:50am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello C4Real1 Good to meet you & welcome to T.I.O.F What a great question. The very foundations of the methodology. One place to start is what you have already done, read the thread. Another resource is the videos on the youtube channel. Going to start making more in the new year. We could also do a free webinar and go through the basics again, ready for the new year. Let's do that. We haven't done one in a while here. best wishes
Hi AKT,
Thank you for your reply, I really appreciate it. The webinar sounds great. Please let me know when you intend to do it. I look forward to it.

Have a great day.
  • #6,819
  • Nov 11, 2018 2:34am Nov 11, 2018 2:34am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello C4Real1 Good to meet you & welcome to T.I.O.F What a great question. The very foundations of the methodology. One place to start is what you have already done, read the thread. Another resource is the videos on the youtube channel. Going to start making more in the new year. We could also do a free webinar and go through the basics again, ready for the new year. Let's do that. We haven't done one in a while here. best wishes
webinar and new videos, good news
  • #6,820
  • Nov 11, 2018 10:02pm Nov 11, 2018 10:02pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello C4Real1 Good to meet you & welcome to T.I.O.F What a great question. The very foundations of the methodology. One place to start is what you have already done, read the thread. Another resource is the videos on the youtube channel. Going to start making more in the new year. We could also do a free webinar and go through the basics again, ready for the new year. Let's do that. We haven't done one in a while here. best wishes
Hi Akt,
great idea, no doubt this will be widely welcomed. Going over the basics is always a good idea, and appreciated by all, especially as most of the original "back to basics" videos are no longer available.
Cheers
agh
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