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  • #21
  • Oct 31, 2018 6:04am Oct 31, 2018 6:04am
" . In fact, he could also be hiding the fact that some of these screenshots are from a demo trading account! "


__________________ yeah NO shit lol
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  • #22
  • Oct 31, 2018 10:51am Oct 31, 2018 10:51am
Quoting pipsy7
" . In fact, he could also be hiding the fact that some of these screenshots are from a demo trading account! " __________________ yeah NO shit lol
...and that affects you how?

Quoting jmn5611
{quote} ...But for you guys, you want to see a complete data set. I get it. I see no reason for Davit to be fraudulent in the way of showing wins in the face of growing DD. He has posted enough trade points for someone to reverse engineer his PNL statements and debunk the system if it were not as advertised. That is my ultimate point.
Enough said!!
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  • #23
  • Edited 3:21pm Oct 31, 2018 3:10pm | Edited 3:21pm
Since these guys always checking on me let me post my end of the month results.
Give you more reasons to feel shitty about your results and its live account!

Let me give you guys little insight.Real smart person would try to understand what I am doing so he/she can take advantage of it but instead we got idiots questioning without even making any effort to understand my system.That's the stupidity of it criticizing something you are clueless about.

When I was younger I had intense desire to learn painting and drawing and spend endless hours in museums copying masters and frankly that was best education I got and far productive then my Art school classes. I went to museums to learn not question value of the works because I knew there were great...
Its given you progress if only you are able to see the value and that has something to do with yourself.Insight is propositional to experience and intelligence
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In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #24
  • Oct 31, 2018 3:21pm Oct 31, 2018 3:21pm
Heispark = The kid that never got invited to the party
  • #25
  • Oct 31, 2018 5:14pm Oct 31, 2018 5:14pm
Justin!!!!!

When did you get back?

Is this one of the annual FF 5hitstorms????
.... laughing all the way to the bank
  • #26
  • Edited 7:04pm Oct 31, 2018 6:52pm | Edited 7:04pm
Quoting Davit
Since these guys always checking on me let me post my end of the month results. Give you more reasons to feel shitty about your results and its live account! Let me give you guys little insight.Real smart person would try to understand what I am doing so he/she can take advantage of it but instead we got idiots questioning without even making any effort to understand my system.That's the stupidity of it criticizing something you are clueless about. When I was younger I had intense desire to learn painting and drawing and spend endless...
Wow, very impressive!
You don't have any open positions in that statement, right?
The following is from my another robot (cent LIVE account). It's not bad although it's not as good as yours. It still has open positions by the way....
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Anyways, please don't get me wrong, I know you have an edge and you're a profitable trader. I know it because I understand your system well enough and I have an edge as a trader as well....
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #27
  • Oct 31, 2018 6:56pm Oct 31, 2018 6:56pm
I have small advice for all in ff. Why don't you guys mind your own bissness. Is that too much difficult????
  • #28
  • Oct 31, 2018 7:00pm Oct 31, 2018 7:00pm
Quoting itsallover
Justin!!!!! When did you get back? Is this one of the annual FF 5hitstorms????
Well.... I tried to leave but FF is so addictive you know, so.......
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #29
  • Oct 31, 2018 7:35pm Oct 31, 2018 7:35pm
Quoting Davit
I seriously dislike stupid. I find this whole thread comical
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You can't fix stupid. My advice as always is....

Enjoy, have fun, trade your plan, make a great day, do your own due diligence and may we all make bank! Game changing Bank!! The kind of Bank that makes you just Think and Grow
Don't follow me! You can and most likely will LOSE all your money!!!!
  • #30
  • Oct 31, 2018 7:37pm Oct 31, 2018 7:37pm
What is this thread? A failed attempt at an insult?

Page 1 - "Now you know why he cannot quit his shit job...... quite hilarious.
It's very easy basics but it seems still so many people don't understand this.
Any comment?"

Page 2 - "Anyways, please don't get me wrong, I know you have an edge and you're a profitable trader."

Make your mind up pal.
  • #31
  • Oct 31, 2018 7:40pm Oct 31, 2018 7:40pm
Quoting AlexReid
What is this thread? A failed attempt at an insult? Page 1 - "Now you know why he cannot quit his shit job...... quite hilarious. It's very easy basics but it seems still so many people don't understand this. Any comment?" Page 2 - "Anyways, please don't get me wrong, I know you have an edge and you're a profitable trader." Make your mind up pal.
Yes, I somewhat regret that page1 comment ("shit job...").... actually I didn't mean to reveal the name of the user.....
I would like to vote for page2 comment....
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #32
  • Oct 31, 2018 9:28pm Oct 31, 2018 9:28pm
Quoting heispark
{quote} Wow, very impressive! You don't have any open positions in that statement, right? The following is from my another robot (cent LIVE account). It's not bad although it's not as good as yours. It still has open positions by the way.... {image} Anyways, please don't get me wrong, I know you have an edge and you're a profitable trader. I know it because I understand your system well enough and I have an edge as a trader as well....
You are clearly mentally challenged. I already said my trades are posted if you had intelligence you would of clicked on my entire October trades(click images) which I posted and get the data which supports my graph but again I am wasting time trying to be logical with stupid.You try the robot at least it gives you an illusion of success!

And Yes I have profit trades running EU GU EG AU !

I am done on this thread.
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #33
  • Edited 11:40pm Oct 31, 2018 9:52pm | Edited 11:40pm
Quoting Davit
{quote} You are clearly mentally challenged. I already said my trades are posted if you had intelligence you would of clicked on my entire October trades(click images) which I posted and get the data which supports my graph but again I am wasting time trying to be logical with stupid.You try the robot at least it gives you an illusion of success! And Yes I have profit trades running EU GU EG AU ! I am done on this thread.
Thank you for visiting this thread. I hope to see you in CNBC in the future. Something like 'CNBC Contributor { personal information deleted by staff, per request }'... Sounds nice....
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #34
  • Oct 31, 2018 10:34pm Oct 31, 2018 10:34pm
Quoting AlexReid
What is this thread? A failed attempt at an insult? Page 1 - "Now you know why he cannot quit his shit job...... quite hilarious. It's very easy basics but it seems still so many people don't understand this. Any comment?" Page 2 - "Anyways, please don't get me wrong, I know you have an edge and you're a profitable trader." Make your mind up pal.
lol seriously.

this diss reminds me of how this thread progressed..can you catch which verse i'm talking about?

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  • #35
  • Nov 4, 2018 11:59pm Nov 4, 2018 11:59pm
Quoting heispark
A logical explanation from Veefx: {image} This is from a user: {image} This is from my robot... Looks fantastic? {image} Alas, but the truth is..... {image} Now you know why he cannot quit his shit job...... quite hilarious. It's very easy basics but it seems still so many people don't understand this. Any comment?
I am pretty sure I am going to repent posting this here as that post in DavIT's thread is really a "Bygones are Bygones" now. As my signature says, I don't care anymore about the factory or the Spot FX industry now that my focus is in Futures.

I repeat again... it was never my intention to doubt his strategy (which I still have not bothered to look into) nor his profitable performance history or whether he trades live or demo or whether he is a scam artist. My only intention was (and still is) to raise awareness of a MATHEMATICAL FACT that balance curve cannot be trusted without full disclosure on whether the account has floating positions. Only in Spot FX and only in MT4 there is so much focus given to AccountBalance(). No professional platform or professional trader gives a hoot about Account Balance as EVERYTHING has to be "Marked to Market" i.e. AccountEquity() or you will quickly find your way into a 6x6 jail cell !!! It is that simple folks. I have yet to see an official acknowledgement of this MATHEMATICAL FACT from Mr. DavIT or his followers. Till this date, he continues to fool his fo(o)llowers into thinking "Balance Curve is everything" by not showing his floating positions. This is THE End of discussion for me.

EDIT: My Ignore List is now Empty for a reason :-
Staying in my lane...
  • #36
  • Nov 5, 2018 5:25am Nov 5, 2018 5:25am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} And herein lies the crux of the discussion. What is value? For some, value is showing a total profit of 13K. If his floating DD is positive, even by 1 or 2k, that would be value in the eyes of many in EM countries. ( Thanks v2v for giving me the right words to say about countries in the "third world") F....
yes... that is correct, EM countries is much better or politically correct at this time period. The "Third World" sound so Liberal to some, the former powers that be. ; )─
Since Frank Sinatra sings in his own way, my chart sing... I did it, my way
  • #37
  • Nov 5, 2018 5:34am Nov 5, 2018 5:34am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} ... For more quant oriented guys like you and VEE, the picture is incomplete. That is a fair statement to make. I suspect that he has pulled enough out of the market to cover for any floating DD issues. But for you guys, you want to see a complete data set. I get it. I see no reason for Davit to be fraudulent in the way of showing wins in the face of growing DD. He has posted enough trade points for someone to reverse engineer his PNL statements and debunk[/highlight]...
Both statements have valid points. Now, it depends on trader-to-trader if they are satisfied with it. If not, who cares! focus on your own instead. : )─ On this zero-sum game thingy... winners need losers : )─
Since Frank Sinatra sings in his own way, my chart sing... I did it, my way
  • #38
  • Last Post: Sep 25, 2020 4:25pm Sep 25, 2020 4:25pm
Quoting heispark
A logical explanation from Veefx: {image} This is from a user: {image} This is from my robot... Looks fantastic? {image} Alas, but the truth is..... {image} Now you know why he cannot quit his shit job...... quite hilarious. It's very easy basics but it seems still so many people don't understand this. Any comment?
Hi i'm following your other trading journal thread. Are you still only trading NG? have you noticed any difference in the movement of this market in regards to cumulative delta against something like the fx market?
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