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  • #1,681
  • Oct 10, 2018 2:02am Oct 10, 2018 2:02am
Hi

I have Hybrid 1c on demo with stoch5nn set to true, but only seems to trade on GBP/USD and Eur/USD not any other pair.
Am I supposed to change slippage on the settings depending on the pair or any suggestions on what else I can check?
Works is back testing on the strategy tester.

Cheers
  • #1,682
  • Oct 10, 2018 2:20am Oct 10, 2018 2:20am
Quoting len82
Hi I have Hybrid 1c on demo with stoch5nn set to true, but only seems to trade on GBP/USD and Eur/USD not any other pair. Am I supposed to change slippage on the settings depending on the pair or any suggestions on what else I can check? Works is back testing on the strategy tester. Cheers
Or your brokers spread on those pairs.
Do you backtest with the spread set to current ?
I can calculate the movement of stars, but not the madness of men. Isaac N.
  • #1,683
  • Oct 10, 2018 2:33am Oct 10, 2018 2:33am
Hi
Have definitely back tested Eur/USD and GBP/USD and currently live demo testing on 6 pairs of which only 2 pairs trade.
So, if I was to back test the other pairs with current spread and it works, then it should work live testing forward with the same setting?

Cheers
  • #1,684
  • Oct 10, 2018 3:02am Oct 10, 2018 3:02am
Quoting len82
Hi Have definitely back tested Eur/USD and GBP/USD and currently live demo testing on 6 pairs of which only 2 pairs trade. So, if I was to back test the other pairs with current spread and it works, then it should work live testing forward with the same setting? Cheers
Basically yes.

Also have a look at your journal if you see ordersend errors 138.
Read here https://www.earnforex.com/blog/order...r-138-requote/

The Magix EAs miss the RefreshRates just before entering trades.
I can calculate the movement of stars, but not the madness of men. Isaac N.
  • #1,685
  • Oct 10, 2018 3:14am Oct 10, 2018 3:14am
Hi FxMadness

Thank you, makes sense now. I will give it a try.

Cheers
  • #1,686
  • Oct 10, 2018 4:33am Oct 10, 2018 4:33am
Quoting len82
Hi Have definitely back tested Eur/USD and GBP/USD and currently live demo testing on 6 pairs of which only 2 pairs trade. So, if I was to back test the other pairs with current spread and it works, then it should work live testing forward with the same setting? Cheers
NN is No Nedge and you'd have to read about the development (HERE) to get a full sense of what it is doing...it trades towards a Homeostatic Median and will find more trades on an M1 than any other time-frame, due to how the HM is set. The delay of primary has the optics of an M5 chart, thus the M5 in the name...Optics of the M5 and triggered through the M1 is just a triggering methodology...the NN portion of this, only to tend towards homeostatic is what causes it to not be as aggressive as other triggering methodologies...and if you are running with the Time Filter - ie - trading NY session like is posted in my settings HERE, this criteria becomes even more specific.

Check out my Trade Explorer - HERE

I am running this on 28 pairs and in a week and a half, it's only traded on 22 of them.

If you want to see more action on this, Trade the Stoch5Trend...continue to use the session filter (TradeStart and Stop Time) on a different test account and watch how these play out.
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  • #1,687
  • Oct 10, 2018 4:56am Oct 10, 2018 4:56am
Just some thoughts.

If you are still forward testing on a demo account, do not restrict your test to the magic 7 pairs but test them all (28).
just use a large account but trade starting 0,01 do not look at the percentage but every profit a pair makes over time (you know you have to test at least 3 month before ever thinking going live).

A lot of pairs may really surprise you.

Magix scalp, Xuicide, martingale * 3, start lot 0.01, max trades 4, max lot size 0,3.
So pretty aggressive with high DD.

Backtest 99.9 over 1 year.

NZDCHF
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Also do not assume that the same settings work for all pairs.
Take the time to find the best settings for each pair and save/load them as sets or templates.

GBPJPY with the same settings as above.
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GBPJPY with a way bigger lot step.
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I can calculate the movement of stars, but not the madness of men. Isaac N.
  • #1,688
  • Oct 10, 2018 5:18am Oct 10, 2018 5:18am
Hi MAgix and FXmadness

Thanks you both very much for the answers and help, makes sense and lot of testing for me this weekend.
Last night though running through a few back tests, there is one week in July 16th-20, with a strong trend down, the EA has good results throughout the year except that week, where it keeps buying into the downward trend and you see draw downs of +50%, i have tried different starting strategies, times, lots just can t get over that week. My thinking is, you just can t leave an ea by itself all the time, you hit a week like that the key is to identify the situation early and manually close and move on to trade another day, what do you guys think?

Cheers
  • #1,689
  • Oct 10, 2018 5:42am Oct 10, 2018 5:42am
Quoting len82
Hi MAgix and FXmadness Thanks you both very much for the answers and help, makes sense and lot of testing for me this weekend. Last night though running through a few back tests, there is one week in July 16th-20, with a strong trend down, the EA has good results throughout the year except that week, where it keeps buying into the downward trend and you see draw downs of +50%, i have tried different starting strategies, times, lots just can t get over that week. My thinking is, you just can t leave an ea by itself all the time, you hit a week like...
Which pair and which strategy ?
I can calculate the movement of stars, but not the madness of men. Isaac N.
  • #1,690
  • Oct 10, 2018 5:49am Oct 10, 2018 5:49am
Quoting len82
Hi MAgix and FXmadness Thanks you both very much for the answers and help, makes sense and lot of testing for me this weekend. Last night though running through a few back tests, there is one week in July 16th-20, with a strong trend down, the EA has good results throughout the year except that week, where it keeps buying into the downward trend and you see draw downs of +50%, i have tried different starting strategies, times, lots just can t get over that week. My thinking is, you just can t leave an ea by itself all the time, you hit a week like...
The typical problem with all grid EAs...

The 99% of the time when they work, they work awesome.

It's that 1% that can completely fuck ya...lol

The daily filtering and watching sessions as applied to the logic is where I've found the best filtering...check out the sessions versions that are running in my trade explorers and you can kind of get an idea.

CoCo - Correlation filtering - ran without a tapout and in the same sessions...with the tap out, would still be alive.

There are a lot of factors that come into consideration, but your personal threshold and account should always be your biggest consideration.

Going to bed with prickly armpits and disturbing sleep over money, simply isn't worth it.

Limit days...like bgntrs and once you've hit your profit for the week...sit out - Awesome Strategy - Greed Kills!
Limit pairs...like mrdfx...match the pairs to the personality of the EAs and reduce risk by working with a fixed lot.
Keep Eyes on the Daily Candle...if there are too many trades loading against the trend...fuckem - Close them down, lick your wounds and live to fight another day.

A lot of ways to approach...just because these can trade 24/5, doesn't mean they have too...
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  • #1,691
  • Oct 10, 2018 6:21am Oct 10, 2018 6:21am
Hi Magix

Thanks again for the wise words, the pair is GPB/USD and pretty sure tested it on most primary triggers and the result is almost the same. Need to do loads more testing over the week to strike a balance but your advise is very helpful. On the positive side, have been trading on my live account for about 2 weeks and up %30 with the manual start although today a little bit stuck i a shit trade I made lol.

Cheers
  • #1,692
  • Oct 10, 2018 7:36am Oct 10, 2018 7:36am
Quoting len82
Hi Magix Thanks again for the wise words, the pair is GPB/USD and pretty sure tested it on most primary triggers and the result is almost the same. Need to do loads more testing over the week to strike a balance but your advise is very helpful. On the positive side, have been trading on my live account for about 2 weeks and up %30 with the manual start although today a little bit stuck i a shit trade I made lol. Cheers
I do not see the problem.
With some tweaking of the step and time settings (otherwise still martingale, magix_scalp && Xuicide) i can make what i want from the DD.

7/1 to 8/1
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But it will kill your profits for all periods around this one.
Just accept the 50% DD (realy is nothing) and be glad you are able to survive such a trend without losing the complete account.
I can calculate the movement of stars, but not the madness of men. Isaac N.
  • #1,693
  • Oct 10, 2018 7:51am Oct 10, 2018 7:51am
Use cent accounts i doo that on my grid EA`S 500 dollars is 50000 units on cents and you can start out with fixed lot of 0.1 ore 0.05...0.1 is actually 0.01 on a 5000 accont and 0.05 is 0.01 of a 25000 account its what you make in % that matter either you use cent ore standard...And if backtest you should download ticks for the whole of 2018 i did run my best grid on a 450 dollar cent and got maximal drawdown at 18% at most....
You win some you loose some do both with peace of mind
  • #1,694
  • Oct 10, 2018 6:35pm Oct 10, 2018 6:35pm
Here we have it...

A bigger test on the DD for the Stochs5NN - 28 pairs.

Locked in on a JPY trend reversal headfake and the proverbial shit is hitting the fan!
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I was manually trading EURJPY and GBPJPY this am and made out like a bandit!

Closed Net 160 pips - some help from the EURUSD and GBPUSD pairs...when USDJPY hit the skids...I got the fuck out of dodge...Stochs NN, was not so fortunate.

There is room for a CoCo filtering system...just need to work out the rest of the logistics.

Some pretty kewl developments on the rise...
- Limiting Trade Pairs - ie - No More than 2 pairs of the same currency in trade - USDJPY, GBPJPY, EURJPY
- CoCo style filtering
- Time Shifting - a little more precise than the generic being used...

And

Much Much More!
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  • #1,695
  • Oct 10, 2018 10:43pm Oct 10, 2018 10:43pm
Quoting Magix
Here we have it... A bigger test on the DD for the Stochs5NN - 28 pairs. Locked in on a JPY trend reversal headfake and the proverbial shit is hitting the fan! {image} I was manually trading EURJPY and GBPJPY this am and made out like a bandit! Closed Net 160 pips - some help from the EURUSD and GBPUSD pairs...when USDJPY hit the skids...I got the fuck out of dodge...Stochs NN, was not so fortunate. There is room for a CoCo filtering system...just need to work out the rest of the logistics. Some pretty kewl developments on the rise... - Limiting...
Just to be clear, what is the current free margin % on that account ?
I can calculate the movement of stars, but not the madness of men. Isaac N.
  • #1,696
  • Oct 11, 2018 5:02am Oct 11, 2018 5:02am
Quoting FxMadness
{quote} Just to be clear, what is the current free margin % on that account ?
At lowest that I saw, DD was $1800 and Free Margin was at about $1000...

Some has recovered, but unless there is an all out flip on JPY for NY, this motherfucker won't make it through to the weekend.

In all fairness, the NN's were created to trade on fixed lot...this just seemed like a lot more fun, ya know...with playdough and all...
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  • #1,697
  • Oct 11, 2018 12:58pm Oct 11, 2018 12:58pm
Quoting Magix
Here we have it... A bigger test on the DD for the Stochs5NN - 28 pairs. Locked in on a JPY trend reversal headfake and the proverbial shit is hitting the fan! {image} I was manually trading EURJPY and GBPJPY this am and made out like a bandit! Closed Net 160 pips - some help from the EURUSD and GBPUSD pairs...when USDJPY hit the skids...I got the fuck out of dodge...Stochs NN, was not so fortunate. There is room for a CoCo filtering system...just need to work out the rest of the logistics. Some pretty kewl developments on the rise... - Limiting...
That was one hell of a ride! hahaha
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  • #1,698
  • Oct 11, 2018 4:36pm Oct 11, 2018 4:36pm
Quoting halvarado89
{quote} That was one hell of a ride! hahaha {image}
Not completely out of the weeds, but am surprised at how well the logic managed to whittle down a $2k DD to $350, while churning $300 profit on the day.

There is something to be said for the Daily Filter Logic, even as applied to some of these offbeat pairs.
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  • #1,699
  • Oct 12, 2018 1:08am Oct 12, 2018 1:08am
Quoting FxMadness
{quote} Great. You are usually done by Wednesday ever thought about opening another demo account and restart to enter trade cycles on Wednesday or Thursday to take advantage of the end of the week unwind. I think it is worth a try (on demo).
I have a demo running side by side which I let play out for the rest of the week. My goal is to be out of the market by the end of the week, so trading Thursday for example I might get hit with a strong trend and I won't be out.

For example on the demo I'm currently stuck on an.up trend with audcad and usdcad which has been stubborn for past couple days. Getting out Tuesday obviously avoided that.

The 'model' I'm using atm is working well so don't think I will change it.
  • #1,700
  • Oct 12, 2018 10:39am Oct 12, 2018 10:39am
Quoting mrdfx
Happy Friday guys! You know with all the updates and new developments we've had since Lost Socks EA, Hybrid v1.2 is still one of my favorites. 4 months later and it is still churning along nicely bringing in the profits. +230% so far with an average of 34% pm, 1% per day. The DD did get a bit high last month during the crazy trending period we had then, but it recovered like a champ. Been running v1.2 on 5 pairs, fixed lot, with 0.01 increments at each $1k. What I really like about this version is its simplicity,...
Happy Friday guys!

So guys a little update from this post on Hybrid v1.2.

One month since this post above, and the account has hit +400% profit in 5 months.

This has been a completely set & forget account with no manual interference at any time.

I just love the simplicity of this version and how it just does its thing. Sometimes the DD goes up pretty high (20-30%) but it always manages to recover and come back to profit.

Oh and check out those Sharpe and Sortino ratios.
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