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  • #6,441
  • Sep 20, 2018 11:53am Sep 20, 2018 11:53am
Nicely done, as always!
Market moved up without me today, as all my POs were conservatively resting a bit lower, so nothing triggered today. Will keep them waiting another day before calling it off.
  • #6,442
  • Sep 20, 2018 3:09pm Sep 20, 2018 3:09pm
Posting up a pile of KennyZ's old charts from way back when we did the live AG Skype sessions. These were a massive inspiration back in 2012-2013 when I was starting out.

I analysed every single chart and went back to the exact time period in MT4 history and pieced it all together (D1/H4/H1) over 100's of hours of studying.

I worked out all the reasons for entries on the lower TF's I could find. Not all of it made sense at the time. I still sometimes go back and look at these but you do need higher TF to put the pieces together.
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  • #6,443
  • Sep 20, 2018 3:18pm Sep 20, 2018 3:18pm
Hi @C12

How many pairs do you trade?
I see many charts about EU but not others.
If you trade just EU how many setups do you have per week on H4/M30/M5?

Cheers
  • #6,444
  • Sep 20, 2018 3:24pm Sep 20, 2018 3:24pm
Quoting C-12
Posting up a pile of KennyZ's old charts from way back when we did the live AG Skype sessions. These were a massive inspiration back in 2012-2013 when I was starting out. I analysed every single chart and went back to the exact time period in MT4 history and pieced it all together (D1/H4/H1) over 100's of hours of studying. I worked out all the reasons for entries on the lower TF's I could find. Not all of it made sense at the time. I still sometimes go back and look at these but you do need higher TF to put the pieces together. {file}

Thank you very much!! Im studing your charts too! I hope you continue to post screens everyday so I can study
  • #6,445
  • Sep 20, 2018 3:25pm Sep 20, 2018 3:25pm
Quoting Merka
Hi @C12 How many pairs do you trade? I see many charts about EU but not others. If you trade just EU how many setups do you have per week on H4/M30/M5? Cheers
Just EU at the moment. I'll probably get into swing trading again at some point but I don't have the desire to study all the event risks on other pairs right now.

There's more than enough setups per week on EU and I like the 100% focus a single pair offers. I do get a lot of small losses that are usually scratched entries when I get in too early or false PA during chop.

For some reason this week I had very few losses and managed to get in sync with HTF and LTF price movement. I guess you call it the "zone"
  • #6,446
  • Sep 20, 2018 3:39pm Sep 20, 2018 3:39pm
Quoting C-12
Posting up a pile of KennyZ's old charts from way back when we did the live AG Skype sessions. These were a massive inspiration back in 2012-2013 when I was starting out. I analysed every single chart and went back to the exact time period in MT4 history and pieced it all together (D1/H4/H1) over 100's of hours of studying. I worked out all the reasons for entries on the lower TF's I could find. Not all of it made sense at the time. I still sometimes go back and look at these but you do need higher TF to put the pieces together. {file}
Funny I did the same but with some more screenshots from him
  • #6,447
  • Sep 20, 2018 3:42pm Sep 20, 2018 3:42pm
Quoting MCFly
{quote} Funny I did the same but with some more screenshots from him
Is he still around? Thought he might have retired by now.
  • #6,448
  • Sep 20, 2018 3:48pm Sep 20, 2018 3:48pm
Quoting C-12
{quote} Is he still around? Thought he might have retired by now.
I really don't know what he is doing now. I saved all of his ss he has posted here and in his old blog.
  • #6,449
  • Sep 20, 2018 4:04pm Sep 20, 2018 4:04pm
Quoting MCFly
{quote} I really don't know what he is doing now. I saved all of his ss he has posted here and in his old blog.
Could you share them too? thx
  • #6,450
  • Sep 20, 2018 9:41pm Sep 20, 2018 9:41pm
EN H4 engulf retested and newly created H1 demand zone, it is mid Asia and PA leaving the zone isn't very clean, will see...
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  • #6,451
  • Sep 20, 2018 11:22pm Sep 20, 2018 11:22pm
Quoting C-12
Posting up a pile of KennyZ's old charts from way back when we did the live AG Skype sessions. These were a massive inspiration back in 2012-2013 when I was starting out. I analysed every single chart and went back to the exact time period in MT4 history and pieced it all together (D1/H4/H1) over 100's of hours of studying. I worked out all the reasons for entries on the lower TF's I could find. Not all of it made sense at the time. I still sometimes go back and look at these but you do need higher TF to put the pieces together. {file}
thank you, that's very kind and certainly a treasure of information to study from. I'll combine that with your charts which I've also compiled and Ken Lee's chart collection.
  • #6,452
  • Sep 21, 2018 2:06am Sep 21, 2018 2:06am
Quoting wiserltz
{quote} Try this, old version are incompatible with newly build MT4 {file} {file}
hi wiserltz do you know coding..then can you help me out on this some more clear... i made with fibo ratios to restrict the repaint nature.. but what i want is keep the previous 5 years /10years which ever is the lowest set as low or high of previous 5 years /10years which ever is the highest and this program to run.. and keep the dots not to shift.. if first low or high comes it place dot and next new low /high comes means wait.. not shift.. after that dot price.. again the same calculation haveto be done and the low meets then next dot plot..like that can you do
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  • #6,453
  • Sep 21, 2018 12:18pm Sep 21, 2018 12:18pm
Quoting C-12
Posting up a pile of KennyZ's old charts from way back when we did the live AG Skype sessions. These were a massive inspiration back in 2012-2013 when I was starting out. I analysed every single chart and went back to the exact time period in MT4 history and pieced it all together (D1/H4/H1) over 100's of hours of studying. I worked out all the reasons for entries on the lower TF's I could find. Not all of it made sense at the time. I still sometimes go back and look at these but you do need higher TF to put the pieces together. {file}
Thanks for sharing these charts with us C-12 ..When you can please upload more trading examples with charts .
  • #6,454
  • Sep 21, 2018 3:11pm Sep 21, 2018 3:11pm
Today was a red day, will post some charts later, but still 4.4% up for the week, not bad
  • #6,455
  • Sep 21, 2018 4:32pm Sep 21, 2018 4:32pm
Quoting C-12
Posting up a pile of KennyZ's old charts from way back when we did the live AG Skype sessions. These were a massive inspiration back in 2012-2013 when I was starting out. I analysed every single chart and went back to the exact time period in MT4 history and pieced it all together (D1/H4/H1) over 100's of hours of studying. I worked out all the reasons for entries on the lower TF's I could find. Not all of it made sense at the time. I still sometimes go back and look at these but you do need higher TF to put the pieces together. {file}

thanks for posting. Looking at these he was truly a master! I'm seeing a lot of LTF scalps along jumping in and out, along with holding on for the bigger moves. Does he enter the same as you C? - waiting for an engulfing candle versus just the touch of a zone? Thats what it looks like based on the several I've looked at so far.
  • #6,456
  • Sep 22, 2018 2:04am Sep 22, 2018 2:04am
Quoting jack411
{quote} thanks for posting. Looking at these he was truly a master! I'm seeing a lot of LTF scalps along jumping in and out, along with holding on for the bigger moves. Does he enter the same as you C? - waiting for an engulfing candle versus just the touch of a zone? Thats what it looks like based on the several I've looked at so far.
He was doing all sorts of stuff from straight zone reversal trades, zone retests, engulfing entries, S/R, price patterns. 6-20 pip scalps while holding multi day positions.

Not only was he scalping on EU and GU, he was also swing trading across around 50 instruments at the same time (stocks, indexes, commodities, forex, CFDs).

Also he was big on the USDX.

Original thread was here: Romancing the Price.

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=288142
  • #6,457
  • Sep 22, 2018 2:55pm Sep 22, 2018 2:55pm
Revising my trades from friday, I think the first was an analysis mistake whereas the second was probably a legit loss.

EU -> I tried to play a M30 DZ inside an unconfirmed H4 area (a new HH wasn't formed yet, according to my plan). Moreover it was an unattended PO.
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GU - Was a good H4 DZ but market wanted a really strong down move.
There was a second DZ underneath, but I didn't take as the departure was too weak.

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PS: In hindsight, price went back to a very good DZ right beneath (visible from H1).

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  • #6,458
  • Sep 23, 2018 1:49am Sep 23, 2018 1:49am
Quoting tradista
Revising my trades from friday, I think the first was an analysis mistake whereas the second was probably a legit loss. EU -> I tried to play a M30 DZ inside an unconfirmed H4 area (a new HH wasn't formed yet, according to my plan). Moreover it was an unattended PO. {image} {image} GU - Was a good H4 DZ but market wanted a really strong down move. There was a second DZ underneath, but I didn't take as the departure was too weak. {image} {image} PS: In hindsight, price went back to a very good DZ right beneath (visible from H1). {image}
They were not 'bad' looking zone trades looking on the LTF chart alone, but analysis on HTF zones + location might have kept you out of these.

EU had just bumped into H4 supply after just taken out a major swing level right on 1.18. It was good area for the big guns to collect some stop orders. Plus it was a no news Friday.

I definitely prefer to be at the screen to watch PA unfold rather than limit orders. This H4 PA highlighted that formed suggested that LTF demand was going to be taken out. This is something that's difficult to factor in with set and forget trading.
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  • #6,459
  • Sep 24, 2018 11:14am Sep 24, 2018 11:14am
My UJ pending from friday got triggered at market open.
I deleted my POs as I wouldn't have time to check on the levels for this week.

Even though UJ is hitting a D1 SZ, I feel it still has room for some pips prior to the shake off.
the level was spot on, so the trade was always in profit but the market ranged all day. I closed half at 2R (target at ~3R), moved to BE and left the other half which eventually got stopped out.

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I am still testing and learning how to best manage my trades according to my own personality. I'm still divided between taking a portion of profit at a given distance from target (and feeling let down when it goes to target anyway) or letting it run full size towards target (and biting my fingernails when the market swings back and forth in the process). I tend to prefer the later, but I'm guessing this has to do with some sort of greedy tendency

So, what I use is I imagine the account is really huge, and in that case, yeah, sure enough, I would clearly want to take some profit along the way, I'm sure... so I have to get into the habit of it. Ken Lee does it, C does it I believe, so I have to do it too... that's the way to profitability... I struggled a lot with this, so it's time to get it right.

  • #6,460
  • Sep 25, 2018 12:19am Sep 25, 2018 12:19am
my 1st question , When price came back to supply with 1st bullish Candle , what i have to do next ? wait for 2nd candle to close H4 bearish ? or enter at 1st bullish H4 candle by watching M30 , if there is any bearish engulf setup ?
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