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  • #6,641
  • Sep 7, 2018 12:07am Sep 7, 2018 12:07am
Hello guys. Hope you are doing well.

I have few questions. pls feel free to comment.

1) Is MTL on entry TF necessary? Or, I could continue to trade (suppose sell) from fresh zones as long as higher TF trend and momentum intact?
2) If MTL broken and restored afterwards with adjustment, can I continue to trade with previous direction? OR, I will have to wait for higher TF zone because of MTL broke once?


Regards,
Shuvo
  • #6,642
  • Sep 7, 2018 12:08am Sep 7, 2018 12:08am
Quoting ykn4f
{quote} Thank you, and what about that 1m zone, any thoughts? Sorry for my english
Hello ykn4f

Same thoughts. Too many candles.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,643
  • Sep 7, 2018 5:23am Sep 7, 2018 5:23am
Hello people!

Just back from a long needed break, time to reset, forget all those indicators and fancy schemes, and reload re-reading all the 333 pages. Thats how you see everything clear.

Please be kind on me... my thoughts on:

AUDNZD:

H4 - High on the curve but still a bit of room

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H1 - Fresh zone- If back nice for a confirmation as last traceable zone till next HTF zone.

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  • #6,644
  • Sep 7, 2018 7:08am Sep 7, 2018 7:08am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello malmal1985 Good to meet you and welcome to T.I.O.F Thank you for sharing your trade with us. If i may, first thing that struck me was that you thought you were wrong because the trade was a loss. That mindset is important to change. The reason i say that is because there will be many good trade set ups that will fail regardless of how good they are and that goes for any methodology not just supply and demand Secondly there are many "bad" trade setups that will work. The fact that they worked does not make them right because them working...
thanks AKT
  • #6,645
  • Sep 7, 2018 8:32am Sep 7, 2018 8:32am
Quoting alexelale
Hello people! Just back from a long needed break, time to reset, forget all those indicators and fancy schemes, and reload re-reading all the 333 pages. Thats how you see everything clear. Please be kind on me... my thoughts on: AUDNZD: H4 - High on the curve but still a bit of room {image} H1 - Fresh zone- If back nice for a confirmation as last traceable zone till next HTF zone. {image}
Hello, my vision of AUD/NZD
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  • #6,646
  • Sep 7, 2018 9:08am Sep 7, 2018 9:08am
Quoting ykn4f
{quote} Hello, my vision of AUD/NZD {image}
to answer your quetion I would also say yes
"Fall in love with the process and the results will follow" - Bradley Whitf
  • #6,647
  • Sep 7, 2018 9:55am Sep 7, 2018 9:55am
Quoting ykn4f
{quote} Hello, my vision of AUD/NZD {image}
wow, I do not have any newer low where you draw the trend line (bearish) on H1. (I guess different brokers).

Also this can be understood both ways for what I see, depends on how you draw the zones. I personally use closing prices not wicks. Also on H4 chart, I decided to make it that small as I consider the green pin par as a "departure" re-test.

What do you think about it?
  • #6,648
  • Sep 7, 2018 10:13am Sep 7, 2018 10:13am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello ykn4f Same thoughts. Too many candles. best wishes
Sorry, for asking so much questions but I still do not understand
Is zone in circle 1 bad, because to left this zone circle 2 are too many candles, and I shouldn't go there short, because there no good 1m sz's, even if it's worked it's wasn't a good trade, right?
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  • #6,649
  • Sep 7, 2018 10:25am Sep 7, 2018 10:25am
Quoting alexelale
{quote} wow, I do not have any newer low where you draw the trend line (bearish) on H1. (I guess different brokers). Also this can be understood both ways for what I see, depends on how you draw the zones. I personally use closing prices not wicks. Also on H4 chart, I decided to make it that small as I consider the green pin par as a "departure" re-test. What do you think about it?
We use same chart site with same broker, but you drawed few hours earlier then me, thats why you didn't saw that new low, hope you understand me

and I think we need Akt opinion there
  • #6,650
  • Sep 7, 2018 12:15pm Sep 7, 2018 12:15pm
Quoting alexelale
Hello people! Just back from a long needed break, time to reset, forget all those indicators and fancy schemes, and reload re-reading all the 333 pages. Thats how you see everything clear. Please be kind on me... my thoughts on: AUDNZD: H4 - High on the curve but still a bit of room {image} H1 - Fresh zone- If back nice for a confirmation as last traceable zone till next HTF zone. {image}
Hello alexeale
Welcome back. Good to have you and thank you for sharing your thoughts on the AUDNZD.

If i may, for the 4hr chart, if it is your biggest timeframe then absed on where price is located on your picture, it can't be considered high on the curve.
I am guessing you meant low on the curve. It is therefore more challenging to consider selling even though as you rightly said, it is still possible. It will demand on
which higher timeframe zone is in control when price returns to the supply zone you highlight on the 60min.

Also, there is a DBD SZ just before the RBD SZ you pointed out, on the 60min chart.

Finally, the 4hr demand zone is not fresh. the fresh level is lower and to the left.

best wishes
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  • #6,651
  • Sep 7, 2018 12:30pm Sep 7, 2018 12:30pm
Quoting ykn4f
{quote} Sorry, for asking so much questions but I still do not understand Is zone in circle 1 bad, because to left this zone circle 2 are too many candles, and I shouldn't go there short, because there no good 1m sz's, even if it's worked it's wasn't a good trade, right? {image}
Hello ykn4f.

Apologies i was not clear enough in my response.

Zone 2 is a level on top of level, meaning there are two levels on top of each other, which within the methodology suggests strength.

Zone one is also good. I thought you meant the candles once price reached Zone 1

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,652
  • Sep 7, 2018 4:48pm Sep 7, 2018 4:48pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello alexeale Welcome back. Good to have you and thank you for sharing your thoughts on the AUDNZD. If i may, for the 4hr chart, if it is your biggest timeframe then absed on where price is located on your picture, it can't be considered high on the curve. I am guessing you meant low on the curve. It is therefore more challenging to consider selling even though as you rightly said, it is still possible. It will demand on which higher timeframe zone is in control when price returns to the supply zone you highlight on the 60min. Also, there...

Hi Akt, thank you so much for your answer. True I meant low on the curve and as well missed the DBD SZ on the 60min chart.

Thank you!
  • #6,653
  • Sep 8, 2018 6:05am Sep 8, 2018 6:05am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello ykn4f. Apologies i was not clear enough in my response. Zone 2 is a level on top of level, meaning there are two levels on top of each other, which within the methodology suggests strength. Zone one is also good. I thought you meant the candles once price reached Zone 1 Best wishes
Thank you, now I understand
  • #6,654
  • Sep 8, 2018 8:35am Sep 8, 2018 8:35am
Hai everyone..
I have question about gold monthly tf..
am i doing right with draw two peak??
any correction i would be appreciate..
Thankyou and sorry for my english..
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  • #6,655
  • Sep 8, 2018 12:31pm Sep 8, 2018 12:31pm
Quoting SetengahGila
Hai everyone.. I have question about gold monthly tf.. am i doing right with draw two peak?? any correction i would be appreciate.. Thankyou and sorry for my english.. {image}
Hello Setengahlia

Correct, because it was the most extreme high at the time

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,656
  • Edited Sep 9, 2018 1:55am Sep 8, 2018 7:14pm | Edited Sep 9, 2018 1:55am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Setengahlia Correct, because it was the most extreme high at the time best wishes
Thankyou very much Michael..
If you have more free time, can you please answer my question..

1. Gold weekly TF, like you said "Look where imbalance first not base first"..
Should i draw new SZ like :
A.
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Or B.
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2. USDJPY weekly TF, about new zone created by broken TL..
After broken TL i not see where the imbalace is..
Should i draw zone like this, or wait for imbalance first?
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3. GBPUSD weekly TF..
Can i use engulfing pattern for zone?
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Any answer i would be appreciate..
Thankyou for your answer, and sorry for my english..
  • #6,657
  • Sep 10, 2018 4:18pm Sep 10, 2018 4:18pm
Hello guys, here is my analysis on USDCAD and CL1 futures. I would appreciate any feedback you guys have.
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  • #6,658
  • Sep 11, 2018 12:19am Sep 11, 2018 12:19am
Quoting SuperNova27
Hello guys, here is my analysis on USDCAD and CL1 futures. I would appreciate any feedback you guys have. {image} {image}
Hello SuperNova27
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the USDCAD and Crude oil

If i may, it would be more useful for the traders in here if you posted a top down analysis of each market so they can see your thought process and therefore
be able to provide meaningful feedback to you on the market you are analysing.

Please see below some of my thoughts on the USDCAD

best wishes
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  • #6,659
  • Sep 11, 2018 12:47am Sep 11, 2018 12:47am
Quoting SetengahGila
{quote} Thankyou very much Michael.. If you have more free time, can you please answer my question.. 1. Gold weekly TF, like you said "Look where imbalance first not base first".. Should i draw new SZ like : A. {image} Or B. {image} 2. USDJPY weekly TF, about new zone created by broken TL.. After broken TL i not see where the imbalace is.. Should i draw zone like this, or wait for imbalance first? {image} 3. GBPUSD weekly TF.. Can i use engulfing pattern for zone? {image} Any answer i would be appreciate.. Thankyou for your answer, and sorry for...
Hello SetengahGila

Thank you for the question. When i speak of finding the imbalance first, what i refer to is simply the process with which zones are identified within the methodology.
SZs are found above and to the left of current price whilst demand zones are found below and to the left of current price. I mean looking for big moves after they have occured and then finding where those big moves started from to locate the zones.

Please see below my thoughts on the weekly chart of Gold

best wishes
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  • #6,660
  • Sep 11, 2018 2:39am Sep 11, 2018 2:39am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello SetengahGila Thank you for the question. When i speak of finding the imbalance first, what i refer to is simply the process with which zones are identified within the methodology. SZs are found above and to the left of current price whilst demand zones are found below and to the left of current price. I mean looking for big moves after they have occured and then finding where those big moves started from to locate the zones. Please see below my thoughts on the weekly chart of Gold best wishes{image}
Thankyou for correction Michael..

This is my analysis on GBPCAD..
Monthly
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Weekly
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Any correction i would be appreciate..
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