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  • #821
  • Oct 6, 2006 12:32pm Oct 6, 2006 12:32pm
Quoting Hendrick
Hi Smjones!

As usual you are so kind! But I still have the shivers for the interview of tomorrow!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>
Hendrick,

All the best for your interview tomorrow. You might ask if the word trade and position has same meaing in the Rules. I see some Participants open double 5 lot trades. The Rules state trade size max is 5 lots and max number of open positions is 3. If trade and position are synonymous, then 15 lots can be open at same time. When I first read the Rules, I interpreted that only 5 lots could be open at one time.

Was it the intention for the Championships to allow 15 lots to be open at one time.

At my evening meal, I will toast to you, with a good glass of wine, for a good time with tomorrow's interview.

Wackena
  • #822
  • Oct 6, 2006 12:37pm Oct 6, 2006 12:37pm
Here is Statement
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File Type: zip Statement25092006-06102006.zip   8 KB | 408 downloads
  • #823
  • Oct 6, 2006 1:00pm Oct 6, 2006 1:00pm
Quoting GirlFlyer
MT4 is really picky about its history files... I have many problems with the history files and backtesting too. Best solution I have found is to manually go into the charts for each time setting and make sure you can scroll back in time through the entire history of your backtest without MT4 trying to download the charts from the server. If it is trying to download the charts from the server rather than your harddrive, it is missing data. Once you get those gaps filled in, you should be able to get your backtest to operate properly. ... lot of work, i know. But its what I had to do. Nothing else seemed to work.

GirlFlyer
Thanks GF - I did that and for some reason, now the test won't even start... hmmm. Of course the desktop is still working fine. The reason I'm trying to make this laptop work is because it's got a beefy new Duo Core 2 processor that can chomp through backtests....

Any other ideas?
  • #824
  • Oct 6, 2006 1:21pm Oct 6, 2006 1:21pm
Quoting wackena
Hendrick,

All the best for your interview tomorrow. You might ask if the word trade and position has same meaing in the Rules. I see some Participants open double 5 lot trades. The Rules state trade size max is 5 lots and max number of open positions is 3. If trade and position are synonymous, then 15 lots can be open at same time. When I first read the Rules, I interpreted that only 5 lots could be open at one time.

Was it the intention for the Championships to allow 15 lots to be open at one time.

At my evening meal, I will toast to you, with a good glass of wine, for a good time with tomorrow's interview.

Wackena
Hendrick,

Apart from the lot size restriction, you may want to talk to them about why they have allowed some of their contestants to trade on multiple currancies.

When I read the rules and it said that an EA can only be attached to one chart. To me that implies only one pair to trade on. Then they accept other EA where the EA is hooked up to one chart but the writer asked for other charts to be opened at the same time and places trades on them as well. Sounds a bit unfair to me?!?!

Best of luck in the comp!
Just my 2 pips worth
  • #825
  • Oct 6, 2006 1:38pm Oct 6, 2006 1:38pm
Quoting wackena
Hendrick,

All the best for your interview tomorrow. You might ask if the word trade and position has same meaing in the Rules. I see some Participants open double 5 lot trades. The Rules state trade size max is 5 lots and max number of open positions is 3. If trade and position are synonymous, then 15 lots can be open at same time. When I first read the Rules, I interpreted that only 5 lots could be open at one time.

Was it the intention for the Championships to allow 15 lots to be open at one time.

At my evening meal, I will toast to you, with a good glass of wine, for a good time with tomorrow's interview.

Wackena
Hi Wackena!

Had the same idea about this as you! Only 5 lots at one time. If I knew that you could open more trades at the same time with 5 lots I could have made <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City> a lot more aggressive. Well, it's too late now.

Enjoy your wine (Cabernet Sauvignon?).
  • #826
  • Oct 6, 2006 1:39pm Oct 6, 2006 1:39pm
Quoting vlaka
Here is Statement
Not too bad Vlaka I think!
  • #827
  • Oct 6, 2006 1:42pm Oct 6, 2006 1:42pm
Quoting jsmanuse
Thanks GF - I did that and for some reason, now the test won't even start... hmmm. Of course the desktop is still working fine. The reason I'm trying to make this laptop work is because it's got a beefy new Duo Core 2 processor that can chomp through backtests....

Any other ideas?
Please let me know if the Core 2 Duo processor really makes a difference when testing! I'm very curious about that!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

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  • #828
  • Oct 6, 2006 1:46pm Oct 6, 2006 1:46pm
Quoting Hendrick
Hi Wackena!

Had the same idea about this as you! Only 5 lots at one time. If I knew that you could open more trades at the same time with 5 lots I could have made <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City> a lot more aggressive. Well, it's too late now.

Enjoy your wine (Cabernet Sauvignon?).
That's correct. When your hot, your hot.

Wackena
  • #829
  • Oct 6, 2006 1:47pm Oct 6, 2006 1:47pm
Quoting saltcafe
Hendrick,

Apart from the lot size restriction, you may want to talk to them about why they have allowed some of their contestants to trade on multiple currancies.

When I read the rules and it said that an EA can only be attached to one chart. To me that implies only one pair to trade on. Then they accept other EA where the EA is hooked up to one chart but the writer asked for other charts to be opened at the same time and places trades on them as well. Sounds a bit unfair to me?!?!

Best of luck in the comp!
There you are Saltcafe! I've tried to reply to your comments in the contest but that didn't work! Thanks a lot BTW for your support.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

<o></o>

Is it really true what you told about the multiple currencies? If it's true, that would be really, really unfair. Which EA is using this?<o></o>
  • #830
  • Edited 2:09pm Oct 6, 2006 1:55pm | Edited 2:09pm
Quoting Hendrick
There you are Saltcafe! I've tried to reply to your comments in the contest but that didn't work! Thanks a lot BTW for your support.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

<o></o>

Is it really true what you told about the multiple currencies? If it's true, that would be really, really unfair. Which EA is using this?<o></o>
400029: Better is one of them.
400130: Mak is another.
400052: Dima is another.

There is probably more as I stopped checking on page 3,

Wackena
  • #831
  • Oct 6, 2006 2:18pm Oct 6, 2006 2:18pm
Quoting Hendrick
Hi Wackena!

Had the same idea about this as you! Only 5 lots at one time. If I knew that you could open more trades at the same time with 5 lots I could have made <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City> a lot more aggressive. Well, it's too late now.

Enjoy your wine (Cabernet Sauvignon?).
Just in case it comes up tomorrow, this Partcipant is opening two 5 lots trades at same time.

400110: karolp

Wackena
  • #832
  • Oct 6, 2006 4:14pm Oct 6, 2006 4:14pm
Things are looking good in the trading competition. Phoenix looked great today. Congratulations Hendrick! I wish you well in your interview.

Phoenix worked great for me today. I switched to a live account quicker than planned because the test I started yesterday quit when my SBFX account stopped working for several hours. I am trading real small amounts to start because my main goal is the live server. This test has the new settings for USDJPY and EURJPY. Times on statement = GMT.

Don't look at the dollar gain but at the pip gain. 192 pips closed and a positive 80 pips float. Phoenix gained 272 pips in 14 hours! With no loses running through NFP news. I'll have to see how the buy in EURUSD and USDCHF works out. Could be a bit of a challenge to keep the 100% wins ratio.
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File Type: zip Phoenix Live 10-06.zip   13 KB | 659 downloads
  • #833
  • Oct 7, 2006 12:36am Oct 7, 2006 12:36am
Quoting nvwine
Things are looking good in the trading competition. Phoenix looked great today. Congratulations Hendrick! I wish you well in your interview.

Phoenix worked great for me today. I switched to a live account quicker than planned because the test I started yesterday quit when my SBFX account stopped working for several hours. I am trading real small amounts to start because my main goal is the live server. This test has the new settings for USDJPY and EURJPY. Times on statement = GMT.

Don't look at the dollar gain but at the pip gain. 192 pips closed and a positive 80 pips float. Phoenix gained 272 pips in 14 hours! With no loses running through NFP news. I'll have to see how the buy in EURUSD and USDCHF works out. Could be a bit of a challenge to keep the 100% wins ratio.
Not bad for a starter nvwine!
  • #834
  • Oct 7, 2006 2:23am Oct 7, 2006 2:23am
Hello Hendrick,

here are the detailed statements for Phoenix, which is running now on two different brokers. First I started with three, but last friday I stopped the worst.

In the attached zip file there are also the statements ending last friday on 26 of September, so on can see also the performance of this week.
All the settings used were default and updated as you posted them.
Probably the results would look better, if I started on each update with a new account.

Best of luck in the contest!

mamba22
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip Phoenix.zip   44 KB | 571 downloads
  • #835
  • Oct 7, 2006 2:31am Oct 7, 2006 2:31am
Hendrick,
Congrats you for your fantastic results on the competition! Wish you many more successes there and also in your real life!

OK, this week I continued the test of Phoenix 4.2. The results are more favourable ones than they were a week before. I attach the statement and the preset files for your convenience.

The summary:
I tested three Japanese pairs only since they were told being the most profitable. I used the default settings with trailing stop. Lots: 0.1 at all trades.
The EA was on during NFP hours.

Closed trades:
EURJPY - 5 trades - 3 * trailing [sl] and 2 * [tp] - Total + 91.80 USD
GBPJPY - 2 trades - 1 * [sl] and 1 * [tp] Total -34.98 USD
USDJPY -2 trades - 1 * trailing [sl] and 1 * [tp] - Total + 43.22 USD
Grand Total: 98.71 USD (swap included)

Floating:
USDJPY -1 trades - -52.91 USD

A question: Would it be possible to collect all the actual settings to the same place and keeping them there with their date of issuing? (I am not sure whther I use the latest default settings.)
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip Ph42_Statement1001-1008.zip   4 KB | 483 downloads
File Type: zip Ph42_presets.zip   1 KB | 482 downloads
  • #836
  • Oct 7, 2006 2:48am Oct 7, 2006 2:48am
Quoting A1Cruiser
Hendrick,
Congrats you for your fantastic results on the competition! Wish you many more successes there and also in your real life!

OK, this week I continued the test of Phoenix 4.2. The results are more favourable ones than they were a week before. I attach the statement and the preset files for your convenience.

The summary:
I tested three Japanese pairs only since they were told being the most profitable. I used the default settings with trailing stop. Lots: 0.1 at all trades.
The EA was on during NFP hours.

Closed trades:
EURJPY - 5 trades - 3 * trailing [sl] and 2 * [tp] - Total + 91.80 USD
GBPJPY - 2 trades - 1 * [sl] and 1 * [tp] Total -34.98 USD
USDJPY -2 trades - 1 * trailing [sl] and 1 * [tp] - Total + 43.22 USD
Grand Total: 98.71 USD (swap included)

Floating:
USDJPY -1 trades - -52.91 USD

A question: Would it be possible to collect all the actual settings to the same place and keeping them there with their date of issuing? (I am not sure whther I use the latest default settings.)
Hi,

I will start a new thread (Phoenix 5) this weekend. In future you will find all the actual settings in post #1.
  • #837
  • Oct 7, 2006 5:28am Oct 7, 2006 5:28am
Let me combine a few things here. I don't want to fill the whole thread with my posts.

I am looking forward to the new thread.

Hendrick could you give me a hint as to which settings to change, in my tests, to get more trades out of Phoenix. In an early post you asked for people to test EURGBP. I can't even get it to trade over 35% of the number of trades you recommended. I can only do long optimization tests on the weekend due to processor limitations. Any hint you could give me would be appreciated.

I have attached 2 zip files. The 0928-1006.zip file does not have any of the new JPY settings. The 1005-1006.zip has the new USDJPY settings for all trades and the new EURJPY settings for all but the first trade. I did not test all pairs in these tests. These tests are not as accurate as my previous test because they do not use live servers. I do not always have the best luck with demo accounts.
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip 0928-1006.zip   11 KB | 491 downloads
File Type: zip 1005-1006.zip   9 KB | 461 downloads
  • #838
  • Oct 7, 2006 6:28am Oct 7, 2006 6:28am
Thank you Hendricks,

It's a very good and timely idea!

Quoting Hendrick
Hi,

I will start a new thread (Phoenix 5) this weekend. In future you will find all the actual settings in post #1.
  • #839
  • Oct 7, 2006 6:44am Oct 7, 2006 6:44am
Quoting wackena
400029: Better is one of them.
400130: Mak is another.
400052: Dima is another.

There is probably more as I stopped checking on page 3,

Wackena
Thanks Wackena,

I haven't checked them all either, but the contest organisers made the rules and they should now stick to them.

If I'm not mistaken then an EA can't (or shouldn't) place a trade on another currency pair unless it is attached to it. Therefore any EA that has these "other" charts open for reference should be disqualified, or maybe a bit softer, then any EA that places trades on another currency pair then what it is attached to should be disqualified.

Just my 0.02 cents worth.

Good luck!!!
Just my 2 pips worth
  • #840
  • Oct 7, 2006 8:07am Oct 7, 2006 8:07am
i think i have found the reason why i test not so well as hendrick and others did though we have the same P4.2
the case is the GMT Time of the MT platform.
i heard that handrick use NEXTT MT4 to demo it with GMT+2 15min TimeFram ,i think it's European time ,but what i test is FXDD,it's no problem, but i think most MT4 is use GMT+3

then i find,the tow chart with the same 15M TF and different GMT time is a little different. so the trade have some asynchronous

i think (in my opinion),there should be do some revise about GMT time.
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