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  • #321
  • Jul 20, 2018 11:14am Jul 20, 2018 11:14am
i have done the bitcoin buy and transfer and i did it trew coinbase is name of company and you need too verify everyting with id and ressidensial dokuments and buying and transferring was just like going too the bank super easy and safe in my opinion but i am not sure how it is with withdraels i guess i will use wiretransfer ore withdraw a small amount too test its much faster with bitcoin but there are a lot of volatility in bitcoin soo you can risk too loose ore win some dollars in the few minutes you own them...lol...When are you going live Raining pips??
You win some you loose some do both with peace of mind
  • #322
  • Jul 20, 2018 3:26pm Jul 20, 2018 3:26pm
Quoting magne999
i have done the bitcoin buy and transfer and i did it trew coinbase is name of company and you need too verify everyting with id and ressidensial dokuments and buying and transferring was just like going too the bank super easy and safe in my opinion but i am not sure how it is with withdraels i guess i will use wiretransfer ore withdraw a small amount too test its much faster with bitcoin but there are a lot of volatility in bitcoin soo you can risk too loose ore win some dollars in the few minutes you own them...lol...When are you going live Raining...
I already have a live account with them, but only funded with a small amount of BTC (what I had lying around). I'm setting up Skrill now to deposit. I've never used it though.
  • #323
  • Jul 23, 2018 9:22am Jul 23, 2018 9:22am
Hello here is someting for scalpers a trading panel with stoploss and tp lot size and one click trading also close all if scaling in also a lot of info how much made with this pair..Procentage and a lot of things...I am superhappy with it...Remember too exstract and put the hole tradingpanel folder in mql/files folder
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  • #324
  • Jul 23, 2018 9:35am Jul 23, 2018 9:35am
i guess mayby you need this in the mql/experts folder i dont remember try without first if not working put this in experts folder
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  • #325
  • Jul 23, 2018 10:33am Jul 23, 2018 10:33am
Quoting magne999
i guess mayby you need this in the mql/experts folder i dont remember try without first if not working put this in experts folder {file}
A better (albiet paid) option is FX Synergy. I can't link it because it violates T/S but it will do what your 'TradePanel' expert will do and much much more. I'm using it to group and scale into trades. It's a 3rd-party program that links to a MT4 trading account you have open.
  • #326
  • Aug 3, 2018 10:22am Aug 3, 2018 10:22am
Is thread dead ?
  • #327
  • Aug 5, 2018 1:05am Aug 5, 2018 1:05am
I'm still trading it.
  • #328
  • Aug 7, 2018 4:48pm Aug 7, 2018 4:48pm
Quoting Sis.yphus
{quote} Yes, this is coming from stuff I coded in MQL4 that dumps out into a spreadsheet. {quote} Have something like this in the pipeline I hope I will be able to get around to soon.
Im in the process of having an indicator made that ouputs live trade data regarding MAE and MFE to excel, so then it can be compared to historical MAE/MFE data for each pair.

I assume there will be some difference between pairs, albeit small, so i want to run tests on individual pairs for accuracy and then i'll code something in Excel VBA to help us determine mathematically whether or not we should cut a trade. Help take the emotion out of it.

I personally look forward to your return, it's been 30 days since your last post, hoping you return soon
  • #329
  • Aug 12, 2018 9:34am Aug 12, 2018 9:34am
Quoting djhenry1981
{quote} Im in the process of having an indicator made that ouputs live trade data regarding MAE and MFE to excel, so then it can be compared to historical MAE/MFE data for each pair. I assume there will be some difference between pairs, albeit small, so i want to run tests on individual pairs for accuracy and then i'll code something in Excel VBA to help us determine mathematically whether or not we should cut a trade. Help take the emotion out of it. I personally look forward to your return, it's been 30 days since your last post, hoping you return...
He said he’ll be back in 90 days i think, and will let his t.e do the talking in his absence, so let’s patiently wait.
  • #330
  • Aug 12, 2018 10:22am Aug 12, 2018 10:22am
Quoting djhenry1981
{quote} Im in the process of having an indicator made that ouputs live trade data regarding MAE and MFE to excel, so then it can be compared to historical MAE/MFE data for each pair. I assume there will be some difference between pairs, albeit small, so i want to run tests on individual pairs for accuracy and then i'll code something in Excel VBA to help us determine mathematically whether or not we should cut a trade. Help take the emotion out of it. I personally look forward to your return, it's been 30 days since your last post, hoping you return...
Do you trade the EMA breakes and if you do whats your target i trade some of thoose braekes also togheter with my own approach i have looked at the EMA 10 breakes and total with a 1-4 pips target it is at 50/50 so you need some more confirmations i use momentum if the candles are big before breake its more likely that it still will push on after the breake other confirmations will be very appritciated....Try and keep this system/tread alive...
You win some you loose some do both with peace of mind
  • #331
  • Aug 12, 2018 6:22pm Aug 12, 2018 6:22pm
Quoting magne999
{quote} Do you trade the EMA breakes and if you do whats your target i trade some of thoose braekes also togheter with my own approach i have looked at the EMA 10 breakes and total with a 1-4 pips target it is at 50/50 so you need some more confirmations i use momentum if the candles are big before breake its more likely that it still will push on after the breake other confirmations will be very appritciated....Try and keep this system/tread alive...
No i trade the system as per Sis' design.
  • #332
  • Aug 12, 2018 6:27pm Aug 12, 2018 6:27pm
What i am researching now is a little deeper into Sis' stats, I want to know, for each pair, whether the MAE and MFE changes, dependant on the time of day, the day or the week, the month of the year. etc,

I assume there will be differences, the MAE and MFE of a EU trade would differ in the Asian Session one would expect to that of the MAE and MFE of the UJ. Will post results when complete, just dont expect it to be done anytime soon.
  • #333
  • Aug 12, 2018 6:46pm Aug 12, 2018 6:46pm
I hate to be negative but this method makes literally no sense what so ever.
As the OP claim in-order for this method to work you had to be able to cut losers and let winners run.
He then goes on to post a bunch of stats showing how he uses moving average to determine which traders were more likely to be winnings / losers.
That's very unlikely as if he was able to gain a edge in such a manner then all the OP had to do was mark random areas on the chart and later check the moving average to determine if this trade is more likely to become a winner than losers if so then he could actually place the trade.
So even if the OP system was profitable , what he is doing is very counterproductive as the edge would be in the moving average position and by using this method he would simply be paying addition spread.
From the TE however I think it safe to say there is no edge in even the moving average stats.
  • #334
  • Aug 12, 2018 8:33pm Aug 12, 2018 8:33pm
He doesnt use MA to determine if trade is likely to be a winner or a loser, he uses, MAE and MFE.

Read a little deeper, you simply dont understand.
  • #335
  • Aug 12, 2018 8:43pm Aug 12, 2018 8:43pm
Quoting djhenry1981
He doesnt use MA to determine if trade is likely to be a winner or a loser, he uses, MAE and MFE. Read a little deeper, you simply dont understand.
My bad didn't actually dig deeper as the method made no sense when I tired putting it together , as the edge would lies in MAE AND MFE IF this information can still be obtain without having to place a trade ,The system would still be flawed.
  • #336
  • Aug 12, 2018 8:58pm Aug 12, 2018 8:58pm
Basically what OP has done has generated statistics for MAE and MFE based on the system.

If you trade the system as described you can then use the historic MAE and MFE data to make trading decisions on the probability of whether you are in a winning or losing trade, if the probability is that you're in a losing trade, cut it, however, if the probably is that you're in a winning trade, albeit, it might still be in draw down, stack it. The edge lies in the trade management, and knowing when to cut and when to stack, this changes the edge.

I've managed 60 pips on EU alone today in a couple of hours.
  • #337
  • Aug 12, 2018 9:09pm Aug 12, 2018 9:09pm
Quoting djhenry1981
Basically what OP has done has generated statistics for MAE and MFE based on the system. If you trade the system as described you can then use the historic MAE and MFE data to make trading decisions on the probability of whether you are in a winning or losing trade, if the probability is that you're in a losing trade, cut it, however, if the probably is that you're in a winning trade, albeit, it might still be in draw down, stack it. The edge lies in the trade management, and knowing when to cut and when to stack, this changes the edge. I've managed...
Yes I understand that , but in theory that makes zero sense ,
the TP is 4 pip and SL is 36 , therefore you will be in drawdown when you determine if the trade is likely to be a winner or loser using the OP method.
Why not pretend you enter a trade or enter a trade on a demo account , use the method to determine a point where the trade would likely become a winner then go on your real account and actually enter the trade.
Then if you had draw down of 6 pip , you would win 6+ (4 the original TP ).
Wouldn't this make more sense than random entries ?
  • #338
  • Aug 12, 2018 11:43pm Aug 12, 2018 11:43pm
But entries are not random. Entry is based on 7 rules, each of which hits its target of 4 pips about 90% of the time.

Therefore, using MAE and MFE data as the trade progresses, one can determine as time goes on, whether or not that particular trade, is likely to be a winner or a loser. IF it's in draw down of about 10-15 pips after 60 candles, its likely to be a winner, so i'd add to the position, but instead of aiming for just 4 pips of the second trade, the ideal is to set that TP of the second trade to that of the first trade's TP, so instead of 4 pips for each trade eg. 8 pips, you may get 14-19 pips from the second trade + 4 pips from your original.

If the trade moves against your quickly, statically it's likely to be a loser, and you should cut it, rather than just hope it comes back.

Remember the 36 pip SL is for ermegency, power blackout, internet drop out, black swan, etc. Rarely, you should hit this level.
  • #339
  • Aug 13, 2018 12:56am Aug 13, 2018 12:56am
Quoting djhenry1981
But entries are not random. Entry is based on 7 rules, each of which hits its target of 4 pips about 90% of the time. Therefore, using MAE and MFE data as the trade progresses, one can determine as time goes on, whether or not that particular trade, is likely to be a winner or a loser. IF it's in draw down of about 10-15 pips after 60 candles, its likely to be a winner, so i'd add to the position, but instead of aiming for just 4 pips of the second trade, the ideal is to set that TP of the second trade to that of the first trade's TP, so instead...
You are contradicting yourself ,
If you win 90% of the time with A SL of 36 and a TP of 4 then the entries are indeed random and if you say otherwise i would love for you to explain how so.
4 x 9 - 36 x 1 = 0.
You can simply place trades on demo and if a trade is in drawdown of 10-15 pip after 60 candles then you actually enter a trade on your real account turning the draw down into potential profit.As that trades is more than likely a winner according to you and the Op.
This means that the entire method is useless following that logic.
Again I doubt that even is an Edge in anything the OP said , His TE speaks for itself.
But even if it did contain an edge the method itself would be counter productive.
PS if a trade with a stoploss of 36 and takeprofit of 4 has a dawndown of less than 16 the odd of it winning is over 50% regardless of the number of candles.
  • #340
  • Aug 13, 2018 3:26am Aug 13, 2018 3:26am
I lack both the crayons and patience to explain this further to you. You need to THINK.

If this system isn't for you, that's fine, but i'm telling you right now it works. 132 pips today and counting.
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