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  • #2,061
  • Aug 7, 2018 11:10pm Aug 7, 2018 11:10pm
Quoting mohsenfx
{quote} Please read this example Expert give 1 lot sell price go up 10 pip expert give 2 lot sell Still go up 10 pip and give 3 lot sell No we have 6 lot sell and 200+200=400$ loss Now with lock about 50% expert give 3 lot buy Now if price continue up We have few loss and go more If price go down we hav 6 lot sell and 3 lot buy and we have profit
Okay there are many possibilities that occur.
There is the addition of reopen marting to Locking Tran for certain conditions, etc.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #2,062
  • Aug 8, 2018 1:44am Aug 8, 2018 1:44am
Hi Mrgmrg,

I'm really interesting on your EA, how can contact you? I'd like to know prices, setups and so on...
On this forum PM are restricted for newby uers.

Thanks
  • #2,063
  • Aug 8, 2018 2:32am Aug 8, 2018 2:32am
Quoting mariuz
Hi Mrgmrg, I'm really interesting on your EA, how can contact you? I'd like to know prices, setups and so on... On this forum PM are restricted for newby uers. Thanks
Hi mariuz


I have sent the e-mail that you expected.


Rgds
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #2,064
  • Aug 8, 2018 2:57am Aug 8, 2018 2:57am
Quoting mohsenfx
{quote} Please read this example Expert give 1 lot sell price go up 10 pip expert give 2 lot sell Still go up 10 pip and give 3 lot sell No we have 6 lot sell and 200+200=400$ loss Now with lock about 50% expert give 3 lot buy Now if price continue up We have few loss and go more If price go down we hav 6 lot sell and 3 lot buy and we have profit
Hi Mohsenfx

1. Right, Martingale might mc if it's trending continuously.
2. With the Locking (Hedging) function, it will use a lot of margin and maybe mc if it is sideways. continously.
3. Solution, a combination of locking and partial closing functions, for this, please be patient, in the process of finishing.

Rgds
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #2,065
  • Aug 8, 2018 3:53am Aug 8, 2018 3:53am
Hi.
I had some strange situation. EA starts grid like normal but after with some reason opened 36 trades in the same time and after this it stoped add position.
Please see attachment.
it happened a few times before.
Any comments?
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  • #2,066
  • Aug 8, 2018 4:03am Aug 8, 2018 4:03am
Quoting kaczucha11
Hi. I had some strange situation. EA starts grid like normal but after with some reason opened 36 trades in the same time and after this it stoped add position. Please see attachment. it happened a few times before. Any comments? {image} {image} {image} {image}
It looks like you are using the Locking function with Locking_Multiplication <1?
Please send to me the set of files you use.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #2,067
  • Aug 8, 2018 6:17am Aug 8, 2018 6:17am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Hi Mohsenfx 1. Right, Martingale might mc if it's trending continuously. 2. With the Locking (Hedging) function, it will use a lot of margin and maybe mc if it is sideways. continously. 3. Solution, a combination of locking and partial closing functions, for this, please be patient, in the process of finishing. Rgds
Ok.thanks.can you say me a date for finish please?

This pic without lock.(with martingle)
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  • #2,068
  • Aug 8, 2018 8:47am Aug 8, 2018 8:47am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} It looks like you are using the Locking function with Locking_Multiplication <1? Please send to me the set of files you use.
I dont use Locking function.

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  • #2,069
  • Aug 8, 2018 8:56am Aug 8, 2018 8:56am
Quoting kaczucha11
{quote} I dont use Locking function. {file}
Hi Kaczucha

Sorry can be sent in a ZIP file (I can't open Rar)

Rgds
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  • #2,070
  • Aug 8, 2018 9:37am Aug 8, 2018 9:37am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Hi Kaczucha Sorry can be sent in a ZIP file (I can't open Rar) Rgds
Dont known how to post set file. Please see attachments
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  • #2,071
  • Aug 8, 2018 10:22am Aug 8, 2018 10:22am
Quoting kaczucha11
{quote} Dont known how to post set file. Please see attachments {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Hi Kaczuacha

Correction of parameters for this setting (without SL)
1. Trailing_Active = false
2. Virtual_Pending = false
3. Max_Reopen = 15

Margin_Percent is only 0.006 of what Equity and Leverage?

Rgds
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  • #2,072
  • Aug 8, 2018 10:47am Aug 8, 2018 10:47am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Hi Kaczuacha Correction of parameters for this setting (without SL) 1. Trailing_Active = false 2. Virtual_Pending = false 3. Max_Reopen = 15 Margin_Percent is only 0.006 of what Equity and Leverage? Rgds
Equity 1000 Usd micro account (100000 Usc). 500:1.
0.006 makes first trade of 0.02 lot.
  • #2,073
  • Aug 8, 2018 10:48am Aug 8, 2018 10:48am
Quoting kaczucha11
{quote} Equity 1000 Usd micro account (100000 Usc). 500:1. 0.006 makes first trade of 0.02 lot.
Ok, I see
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #2,074
  • Aug 8, 2018 11:13am Aug 8, 2018 11:13am
Quoting kaczucha11
{quote} Dont known how to post set file. Please see attachments {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
That is a MC waiting to happen on a live account. Who is your broker?
  • #2,075
  • Aug 8, 2018 12:35pm Aug 8, 2018 12:35pm
Quoting aleho
{quote} That is a MC waiting to happen on a live account. Who is your broker?
The point is I didn't ask about what happened after 36 trades opened in the same time but I ask why it happened?.
XM Au
  • #2,076
  • Aug 8, 2018 7:03pm Aug 8, 2018 7:03pm
Quoting kaczucha11
{quote} The point is I didn't ask about what happened after 36 trades opened in the same time but I ask why it happened?. XM Au
Hi Kaczucha

I am curious about the BT results that you do.

I tried with the same parameters, the case did not occur.

Such cases are usually when Pending_Order = true. And an error occurred during the order entry then EA tried to continue order entry so that there would be many transactions (see Journal). Trailing_Active can also cause the same thing, but only error when modifying SL.

With MM settings as small as that (0.006%, Equity 100000, lotsize 0.02), even with Signal_Level -3 it will not loss or MC.
I tried with two years of data, with the specifications of the pair attached, nothing strange.
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margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #2,077
  • Edited 11:17pm Aug 8, 2018 10:17pm | Edited 11:17pm
Quoting kaczucha11
{quote} The point is I didn't ask about what happened after 36 trades opened in the same time but I ask why it happened?. XM Au
Attached BT results, Set your file for 8 months.

Your settings, I changed
Signal_Level -3
Trailing_Active = false
Grid_Time_Minute = 15
Virtual_Pending = false

Safety and no loss, but the percentage profit is too small, but good max DD , only 9.5%
And compare with MM 0.03% (High DD, 52%)
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  • #2,078
  • Aug 8, 2018 11:36pm Aug 8, 2018 11:36pm
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Attached BT results, Set your file for 8 months. Your settings, I changed Signal_Level -3 Trailing_Active = false Grid_Time_Minute = 15 Virtual_Pending = false Safety and no loss, but the percentage profit is too small, but good max DD , only 9.5% And compare with MM 0.03% (High DD, 52%) {image} {image}
Without any lock and 9000 loss
Is 30%drawdown now
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  • #2,079
  • Aug 9, 2018 1:07am Aug 9, 2018 1:07am
Quoting mohsenfx
{quote} Without any lock and 9000 loss Is 30%drawdown now {image}
Agree.

In BT, I am comparing the use of small and large MM.
MM small, DD 9.5%
MM big, DD 52%
You have 30% still okay.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #2,080
  • Aug 9, 2018 1:31am Aug 9, 2018 1:31am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Agree. In BT, I am comparing the use of small and large MM. MM small, DD 9.5% MM big, DD 52% You have 30% still okay.
yes still ok.
But if market go up fast , account call margin
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