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  • #661
  • Aug 2, 2018 6:36pm Aug 2, 2018 6:36pm
I have to say that after all the hype about the Sup_Dem TS the results have been pretty disappointing.
Roger said numerous times during development that he has never seen a SL hit with this system.
I have been running it on a live account and my SL to TP ratio is 2:1 and the account is down 20%
I have now changed the settings to only take trades if the R:R is 2:1 or better and whilst that has obviously reduced the number of trades significantly the ratio of SL to TP remains at roughly 2:1 so there is absolutely no chance of it making any progress in this current market.
Just a continuous sea of red.........
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  • #662
  • Aug 2, 2018 7:21pm Aug 2, 2018 7:21pm
Quoting Roger7777
{quote} No error. It was the 3 GBP Red news this morning... it had to have been a big spike. And after further review it was!
So was the $150 TP disabled then for 5 hours (that's how long it was over TP) ?
  • #663
  • Aug 2, 2018 7:30pm Aug 2, 2018 7:30pm
With the SupDem TS not performing to expectations, I have returned to HAS trials. Following on from Roger and Eugene's recent examples, I set up with slightly quicker HAS 2,3,2,5 than default and $50 TP One and Done 1hr after US open:

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  • #664
  • Aug 2, 2018 7:44pm Aug 2, 2018 7:44pm
Quoting Pip Poppy
I have to say that after all the hype about the Sup_Dem TS the results have been pretty disappointing. Roger said numerous times during development that he has never seen a SL hit with this system. I have been running it on a live account and my SL to TP ratio is 2:1 and the account is down 20% I have now changed the settings to only take trades if the R:R is 2:1 or better and whilst that has obviously reduced the number of trades significantly the ratio of SL to TP remains at roughly 2:1 so there is absolutely no chance of it making any progress...
Hi PP, I've been to your situation. After all, all TS(s), especially SupDem ts, are tools for us to harness the market. So dont expect it works in 100% profitable. My advice with small account, you should reduce your lot size or number of trades.
I just recently use HM as a momentum filter, it brings a good results last 3 weeks. But of couse, there will be loosing days and loosing trades. I'm no expert but thats my thinking after "why it took all those trades in wrong directions????".
I'm not in anyway trying to prove anything for AITG, but this is the best management Dashboard and TS I ever use after buying heaps of gabage on mql5 site. Seller and the team have done a great job.
Hopefully you'll recover from the loss soon. Stay tune! And be patient with testing new TS. I'll post my dashboard setting when i get to my PC.
Here's the results I got yesterday.
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  • #665
  • Aug 2, 2018 7:47pm Aug 2, 2018 7:47pm
Ah, Pip Poppy, normally if I'm on H4 Supdem, my logic will go for M30/H1 HM filter. Or you can try lower TF filters. Hope this will help.
  • #666
  • Aug 2, 2018 8:51pm Aug 2, 2018 8:51pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} So was the $150 TP disabled then for 5 hours (that's how long it was over TP) ?
That is correct... I thought about it after my last post. When a basket is taken, and even though I have "go at profit" selected, the ETP does not reset. It turns off and you have to manually turn it back on. Unlike the EL, where it resets automatically. What I did was manually closed when I woke up this morning.
  • #667
  • Aug 2, 2018 8:55pm Aug 2, 2018 8:55pm
Quoting jaytee288
{quote} Hi PP, I've been to your situation. After all, all TS(s), especially SupDem ts, are tools for us to harness the market. So dont expect it works in 100% profitable. My advice with small account, you should reduce your lot size or number of trades. I just recently use HM as a momentum filter, it brings a good results last 3 weeks. But of couse, there will be loosing days and loosing trades. I'm no expert but thats my thinking after "why it took all those trades in wrong directions????". I'm not in anyway trying to prove anything for AITG,...
Nice post Jaytee. Hey did you get my PM? Please drop me a note at [email protected]
  • #668
  • Aug 2, 2018 9:04pm Aug 2, 2018 9:04pm
Quoting Pip Poppy
I have to say that after all the hype about the Sup_Dem TS the results have been pretty disappointing. Roger said numerous times during development that he has never seen a SL hit with this system. I have been running it on a live account and my SL to TP ratio is 2:1 and the account is down 20% I have now changed the settings to only take trades if the R:R is 2:1 or better and whilst that has obviously reduced the number of trades significantly the ratio of SL to TP remains at roughly 2:1 so there is absolutely no chance of it making any progress...
Pip, I want to thank you for all your contributions you have made to this thread. You are highly respected. I would like to correct one thing you said though. I never said that the SUPDEM TS never hits the SL. What I have said on record the my manual entries never hit the SL, and I said it hits the 50% move most of the time. My manually entry and setup is documented both on the thread and on the videos from the members room. I agree the SUPDEM needs a few modes and Gene is working on it as we all know. Jaytee has shown better success using the HM. And of course it does not help any system when the market is as dead as it has been. Again, thank you for your support and continued inputs. Have a good day my friend!
  • #669
  • Aug 2, 2018 9:24pm Aug 2, 2018 9:24pm
Quoting Roger7777
{quote} Nice post Jaytee. Hey did you get my PM? Please drop me a note at [email protected]
Yes, I got it. I sent to the email
  • #670
  • Aug 2, 2018 9:28pm Aug 2, 2018 9:28pm
Hi Poppy, this is my setting. Hope it gives you some ideas to work on your system. I'm using SUPDEM on 1Hr Chart by the way. I don't have the nerves to see big drawdown on H4 TF. Hahaha. But that means I'll get smaller rewards with smaller risks. Rather takes profit slow than blow my account quick.
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  • #671
  • Aug 2, 2018 10:30pm Aug 2, 2018 10:30pm
Quoting jaytee288
Hi Poppy, this is my setting. Hope it gives you some ideas to work on your system. I'm using SUPDEM on 1Hr Chart by the way. I don't have the nerves to see big drawdown on H4 TF. Hahaha. But that means I'll get smaller rewards with smaller risks. Rather takes profit slow than blow my account quick. {image}
That is a good tip/idea, I have thought of doing something similar but with larger HM setting, but I see your logic using lower TF HM filtering, so I will try this idea on my 4Hr SupSem trials.
  • #672
  • Aug 2, 2018 10:41pm Aug 2, 2018 10:41pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} That is a good tip/idea, I have thought of doing something similar but with larger HM setting, but I see your logic using lower TF HM filtering, so I will try this idea on my 4Hr SupSem trials.
Yes, when I use the same TF for HM filter and TS, I always feel getting into those trades at the end of the waves. Even on 15mins HM Filter I still feel that way sometimes for SupDem TS , but 5mins HM Filter is too sensitive with market moves . Let us know your trials results
  • #673
  • Aug 2, 2018 11:11pm Aug 2, 2018 11:11pm
Quoting Roger7777
{quote} That is correct... I thought about it after my last post. When a basket is taken, and even though I have "go at profit" selected, the ETP does not reset. It turns off and you have to manually turn it back on. Unlike the EL, where it resets automatically. What I did was manually closed when I woke up this morning.
I thought the BE TP did reset on earlier versions of the Dashboard, for example post #43, has something changed in the newer DB that prevents this? Can ask Eugene to check this?
  • #674
  • Aug 3, 2018 10:32am Aug 3, 2018 10:32am
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} I thought the BE TP did reset on earlier versions of the Dashboard, for example post #43, has something changed in the newer DB that prevents this? Can ask Eugene to check this?
That's a good question, I thought it strange because I do remember it resetting. Will bring this up with Gene.
  • #675
  • Aug 3, 2018 10:36am Aug 3, 2018 10:36am
1 HR HAS BO / HM - Up 236 Pips 7/31 - 8/3 4 baskets

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  • #676
  • Aug 3, 2018 6:35pm Aug 3, 2018 6:35pm
Quoting Roger7777
{quote} Pip, I want to thank you for all your contributions you have made to this thread. You are highly respected. I would like to correct one thing you said though. I never said that the SUPDEM TS never hits the SL. What I have said on record the my manual entries never hit the SL, and I said it hits the 50% move most of the time. My manually entry and setup is documented both on the thread and on the videos from the members room. I agree the SUPDEM needs a few modes and Gene is working on it as we all know. Jaytee has shown better success using...
Hi Roger,
My apologies if I got that wrong in regards to the SL being hit on the Sup_Dem as opposed to your manual entries. I actually thought that the TS was placing the SL in the same place as you were but obviously that is not the case.
I have stopped trading the Sup_Dem TS for the time being and you are certainly correct about the market being in a comatose state!
  • #677
  • Aug 3, 2018 6:47pm Aug 3, 2018 6:47pm
Quoting jaytee288
{quote} Hi PP, I've been to your situation. After all, all TS(s), especially SupDem ts, are tools for us to harness the market. So dont expect it works in 100% profitable. My advice with small account, you should reduce your lot size or number of trades. I just recently use HM as a momentum filter, it brings a good results last 3 weeks. But of couse, there will be loosing days and loosing trades. I'm no expert but thats my thinking after "why it took all those trades in wrong directions????". I'm not in anyway trying to prove anything for AITG,...
Hi Jaytee,
Thank you for your insights as to how you use the TS and the dashboard.
It is my opinion that the Sup_Dem TS and the heatmap are not really compatible.
The HM is trend following and the TS looks for reversals against the trend.
If you were to use a much smaller time frame with the HM than you do with the TS that may work but remember that the two systems look for opposing signals.
  • #678
  • Aug 3, 2018 7:18pm Aug 3, 2018 7:18pm
I have a rather strange problem with the Dashboard.
I cannot get any of the buttons to do anything when I click on them - they will change to a slightly different shade of the same colour but nothing happens.
I have deleted all the global variables, removed the EA from the chart, tried different versions of the EA, shut down / restarted MT4 but cannot get ANY of the buttons to actually do anything.
I realise that the market is now closed but that should not impact on being able to select a HM time frame, change chart time frames / templates, bring up the alert window, check the properties, bring up the graph etc etc.
The dashboard is on an authorised account, the common settings tab is set to allow dll etc.

Update:-
I have tried the dashboard on a different MT4 instance and it works fine so obviously I have a corrupt MT4.
I wonder if that has had any affect on the Sup_Dem TS performance?
Time for a fresh install and try again.....
  • #679
  • Aug 3, 2018 9:15pm Aug 3, 2018 9:15pm
Ok - I'm up and running again

I have been giving the HM some more thought and have decided that instead of trying to match the HM to the Sup_Dem TS with a shorter timeframe, I will be doing the opposite.
I am going to force the TS to only trade in the direction of the underlying trend so have set the TS on the 60 minute chart and the HM to Daily.
I have also re-set the R:R back to 1:1
That in theory should prevent losing countertrend trades from being taken.
Only time will tell and look forward to a bit more volatility in the markets this month.......
  • #680
  • Edited 2:00pm Aug 5, 2018 1:44pm | Edited 2:00pm

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