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  • #441
  • Jul 24, 2018 3:29pm Jul 24, 2018 3:29pm
What I don't understand is why post up a handful of screenshots with no TF and no pair identified.

I mean its FF journal to do as he pleases.. I get that. But why the secrecy. Now I would understand if the charts were a tad more clear... But to post no pair..no TF.. those screenshots might as well be of me playing the saxophone.. what's the point.

Lines everywhere and about as clear as mud. I pity those noobs taking trades off of those screenshots.. but they will learn.

anyways his madness is working lol...so I think it's time I said Well done Fractal.
Cheers to you for all your hard work.

Now im just going to analyze some bare ass naked charts.. much more clear for my pumpkin head with a 95 IQ lol..

Been a slice.

Cheers Fractal and no hard feelings eh
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #442
  • Jul 24, 2018 3:38pm Jul 24, 2018 3:38pm
Quoting billytt
{image} This is what happens if you ask a legitimate question .... Barred for life, lol. i could of quite easily helped the sheep but alas they are being led by a shepherd and not a hedge fund manager, baa baa
i like this cheater fractalfreak.

in any of my arguments i terminated this fractal clown, and he say he defeated. he did no real account challenge, no comparing of his track record or history (and same time he told me when we would compare he show he is good, after i told i will he did run away and never mention this again!) ,he has no money, he lost his accounts in past again and again, he fakes and cheats what he can, he speaks about topics he dont know,......... and turn 180 degree when you kill all his arguments and he simple say " he has won" and ban from his thread,.so he can cheat his followers again and again.
  • #443
  • Jul 24, 2018 3:45pm Jul 24, 2018 3:45pm
Ohhh I almost forgot.

P.S.
Fractal my friend.
If you were to say some nice sweet things about ol'Blue I will change my vote to a YES ! I see it's like 65/35 and truly for a mmmm "method" that predicts price with a 95% accuracy. The poll should be much more higher.

Now I was only going to say that as I need to sit down now and actually work...
But the thought just struck me.
(please forgive my low IQ ..it's my parents fault.)

With such dismal polling resluts. Perhaps one should look inward to ones self.. and say Self !!! Why ?

Perhaps my teaching or methods of explanation are not clear ???

Perhaps if you were to take a little time from your schedule and write out some clear and concise mmm ohh mmmm I don't know.. just write some clear stuff..

So we.. as a collective can benefit more.

Because my friend ...Fractal... I would love to be able to predict the price like you.
And I believe others too !!!

Please help.us understand better so we can boost those polling station numbers for you.

And my offer stands to change my vote to a YES !! But I really need some sugar.
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #444
  • Jul 24, 2018 3:46pm Jul 24, 2018 3:46pm
Quoting bluesteele
What I don't understand is why post up a handful of screenshots with no TF and no pair identified. I mean its FF journal to do as he pleases.. I get that. But why the secrecy. Now I would understand if the charts were a tad more clear... But to post no pair..no TF.. those screenshots might as well be of me playing the saxophone.. what's the point. Lines everywhere and about as clear as mud. I pity those noobs taking trades off of those screenshots.. but they will learn. anyways his madness is working lol...so I think it's time I said Well done Fractal....
IQ of 95 ? nice, i have an IQ of 150 but that is with my 9 mates included lol
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #445
  • Jul 24, 2018 3:53pm Jul 24, 2018 3:53pm
Quoting bluesteele
Ohhh I almost forgot. P.S. Fractal my friend. If you were to say some nice sweet things about ol'Blue I will change my vote to a YES ! I see it's like 65/35 and truly for a mmmm "method" that predicts price with a 95% accuracy. The poll should be much more higher. Now I was only going to say that as I need to sit down now and actually work... But the thought just struck me. (please forgive my low IQ ..it's my parents fault.) With such dismal polling resluts. Perhaps one should look inward to ones self.. and say Self !!! Why ? Perhaps...
The thing is, if he disappeared his follower would not be able to trade, he said he spoon feeds .
The follower would be lost , that is cruel.
The markets move up and down and vice versa, just move when the big boys go , and that is normally just after open...
We do not need a Phd in BS, note the big move area and voila,
If you like this post will you vote for me plz.
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #446
  • Jul 24, 2018 3:58pm Jul 24, 2018 3:58pm
i remember seeing old pictures of Lenin and Stalin in Red Square being surrounded by thousands and thousands of people all cheering and clapping, yeah right
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #447
  • Jul 24, 2018 4:01pm Jul 24, 2018 4:01pm
Quoting billytt
i remember seeing old pictures of Lenin and Stalin in Red Square being surrounded by thousands and thousands of people all cheering and clapping, yeah right
Reminded me of a book I read about the European Union. Many working people thought it was the dogs whatsits until the EU elite began bailing out banks and screwing the ordinary civilian :-)
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
  • #448
  • Jul 25, 2018 12:50am Jul 25, 2018 12:50am
Quoting billytt
{quote} The thing is, if he disappeared his follower would not be able to trade, he said he spoon feeds . The follower would be lost , that is cruel. The markets move up and down and vice versa, just move when the big boys go , and that is normally just after open... We do not need a Phd in BS, note the big move area and voila, If you like this post will you vote for me plz.
Exactly. The other day I said his method may have its merits. However, focusing on his charts is a mistake for any of his followers. Someday he will stop posting the charts and leave his followers out in the cold. Often time those stop/limit order clouds don't locate at swing high/low and you cannot get it right and even if you get the level right you don't know whether stop orders overwhelm limit orders or vice versa without his indicator. I find it pathetic that everyday some followers would beg him to post those charts. I don't mean to attack FF with this post. Just a warning to the followers. Do you expect to trade off of his posted charts for a life time ?

But that can change if he goes commercial and make the indicator available to the public at a fee. Maybe it's on his agenda. He may stop posting the charts and his followers will beg him to go commercial and then he "has to" go commercial "under the pressure" of followers.
  • #449
  • Jul 25, 2018 2:27am Jul 25, 2018 2:27am
Fractal Freak is now unbanned from this thread again and is free to come along and clarify any doubts put upon him
  • #450
  • Jul 25, 2018 2:32am Jul 25, 2018 2:32am
Quoting pooh123
{quote} Exactly. The other day I said his method may have its merits. However, focusing on his charts is a mistake for any of his followers. Someday he will stop posting the charts and leave his followers out in the cold. Often time those stop/limit order clouds don't locate at swing high/low and you cannot get it right and even if you get the level right you don't know whether stop orders overwhelm limit orders or vice versa without his indicator. I find it pathetic that everyday some followers would beg him to post those charts. I don't mean to...
but you know that his indicator is 100% a fake indicator?
there is no orderbook in otc market and so all he try to show is garbage bullshit to show things that dont exist.
so why you speak about this fake like it exist?
  • #451
  • Jul 25, 2018 2:59am Jul 25, 2018 2:59am
Quoting venividivici
Fractal Freak is now unbanned from this thread again and is free to come along and clarify any doubts put upon him
Venividivici,

If i am correct, you became a High Impact member, congrats on the well deserved ranking upgrade...
  • #452
  • Jul 25, 2018 4:12am Jul 25, 2018 4:12am
Quoting aaven
{quote} Venividivici, If i am correct, you became a High Impact member, congrats on the well deserved ranking upgrade...
thanks mate, but the status isnt really important to me, its more about interacting and exchanging ideas.
  • #453
  • Jul 25, 2018 8:22am Jul 25, 2018 8:22am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} but you know that his indicator is 100% a fake indicator? there is no orderbook in otc market and so all he try to show is garbage bullshit to show things that dont exist. so why you speak about this fake like it exist?
Isn't it possible that brokers hand their internal orderbook information to market makers? On the other hand, even if this is true I don't know how a retailer could get access to that data other way than hacking. Very obscure subject for me, hard to be assertive about it.
  • #454
  • Jul 25, 2018 8:27am Jul 25, 2018 8:27am
Quoting Jairo
{quote} Isn't it possible that brokers hand their internal orderbook information to market makers? On the other hand, even if this is true I don't know how a retailer could get access to that data other way than hacking. Very obscure subject for me, hard to be assertive about it.
no they dont do this , because it is unimportant, thats OTC market.

if you want this data use simple futures, there you have an orderbook. but this will not help you, because broker and traders are not stupid, so many orderbook trader was kicked in the ass because smart people (often in banks) simple used the orderbook to make a win from the orderbook traders. what you see in the orderbook is not really what people want trade very often, it is what people like that you should see that it maybe will be traded, any order can be deleted or changed in volume or pricelevel until it is filled. when you know that orders at special pricelevels are no real orders (because its your own orders) and will be changed/deleted then you have a big advantage, this can change a lot.
  • #455
  • Jul 25, 2018 8:40am Jul 25, 2018 8:40am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} no they dont do this , because it is unimportant, thats OTC market. if you want this data use simple futures, there you have an orderbook. but this will not help you, because broker and traders are not stupid, so many orderbook trader was kicked in the ass because smart people (often in banks) simple used the orderbook to make a win from the orderbook traders. what you see in the orderbook is not really what people want trade very often, it is what people like that you should see that it maybe will be traded, any order can be deleted or...
I agree that pending orders are not that important but heavily clustered open positions and stops may be targeted at by market makers if they know where they are.
  • #456
  • Jul 25, 2018 9:18am Jul 25, 2018 9:18am
Quoting Jairo
{quote} I agree that pending orders are not that important but heavily clustered open positions and stops may be targeted at by market makers if they know where they are.
stops are pending orders.
what you call stops running is often told by loser of trading (like fractalfreak because he is a failed trader) to have reason to say why they he lost....
same with manipulation...

maybe some small marketmaker broker manipulate their own price to get money from their counterpart clients (and this they do by SL or margincall running), but why you trade then with such a bucket shop?
take a correct broker, problem gone.
a good broker already earns so much with part of the spread when he is doing correct , or the commissions....
  • #457
  • Jul 25, 2018 9:52am Jul 25, 2018 9:52am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} stops are pending orders. what you call stops running is often told by loser of trading (like fractalfreak because he is a failed trader) to have reason to say why they he lost.... same with manipulation... maybe some small marketmaker broker manipulate their own price to get money from their counterpart clients (and this they do by SL or margincall running), but why you trade then with such a bucket shop? take a correct broker, problem gone. a good broker already earns so much with part of the spread when he is doing correct , or the commissions....
fractal freak has no clue how the market works
  • #458
  • Jul 25, 2018 10:42am Jul 25, 2018 10:42am
Quoting alphadude
{quote} fractal freak has no clue how the market works
i feel that may be a little strong a statement.
but
i would adjust that most of his worshippers dont have a clue about how those charts work, what way the price will go...as long as you give potential answer as up or down, it is a coin flip, and most charts seem to be about that much, without knowing the rest of the "secrets".
and probably 100% of them has no ability to recreate any of those.

i would go as far as their is some useful staff there for beginners or so, but that couple of videos that contain them would fit into probably 3 pages...so what the mambo jambo of the other 200+ pages for?
the repetitive BS, first #hashtag, dick measuring, support, vote for....and then after every single vote an update screenshot? really?
no wonder that CIQ improving ever so slowly.
would be nice to see an end of this soap opera someday, imagine the happy ending the followers get a free template, or a webinar to "show all", or a visit to see a real 'hedge fund' from the inside....after all if the secrets cant be shared, a RT ticket for the loudest supporter ( albeit without the ability to replicate even a half of the template used) should be justified handout.

so yeah, FF isnt clueless, but if his supporters are, that wont raise the collective CIQ.
in fact in this matter the collective CIQ will never be higher than FF's anyway, and can only be as high as he willing to give out...in theory....thus if it is low only cos he prefers his supporters that level.
worked for the different religions for centuries around the world, why change?

happy trading!
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #459
  • Jul 25, 2018 10:55am Jul 25, 2018 10:55am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} stops are pending orders. what you call stops running is often told by loser of trading (like fractalfreak because he is a failed trader) to have reason to say why they he lost.... same with manipulation... maybe some small marketmaker broker manipulate their own price to get money from their counterpart clients (and this they do by SL or margincall running), but why you trade then with such a bucket shop? take a correct broker, problem gone. a good broker already earns so much with part of the spread when he is doing correct , or the commissions....
You've got a point here. When your stop is hit you lose money and somebody wins (your bucket shop broker, the market maker, whoever). But maybe they really don't need to care about stop clusters, just keep their books healthy. As long as retail traders lose (collectively), they make money.
  • #460
  • Jul 25, 2018 11:27am Jul 25, 2018 11:27am
Quoting Jairo
{quote} You've got a point here. When your stop is hit you lose money and somebody wins (your bucket shop broker, the market maker, whoever). But maybe they really don't need to care about stop clusters, just keep their books healthy. As long as retail traders lose (collectively), they make money.
yes, someone will win, but thats always. and its normal in a forex market where you win what other lose.

a broker wins always (when working only as broker and not as counterpart to positions or with own trading group)! in forex you need 80-99% lose, so that the rest can win, simple to calculate by math and often done.

no winner cares who has lost from this, and no loser cares who won from this. when the marketmaker won then because trading was bad, using such stupid method like fractalfreak without logic inside, you was listed by marketmaker as bad trader and he do counterpart trades, or marketmaker doing some tricks. but the last two points are useless, because you dont have to trade with bad brokers.... always the losers cry about manipulation and same time choose brokers who are famous for manipulating because they are very often small marketmakers.
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