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  • #261
  • Jul 16, 2018 3:30am Jul 16, 2018 3:30am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} its all fine what you say, and nothing against you. but because fractalfreak use orderbook trades (where stops are) all what he does is useless, and any good trader know this, any! and nothing there to test, because it has wrong basic. yes, you can say by resistance there are more stops , of course thats simple basics, but in OTC market there are no orderbooks, to fake to have this information is such stupid. stupid people really think in otc market its same like in future markets but the differences are big. nothing against you, but when...
You have some interesting points, however as I still do not see any potential in making any pips from this yet, so I shall reserve my comments. You might like to think about how your views can help translate into some applicable teachings or help fellow traders learn and improve. Till then... =)
  • #262
  • Jul 16, 2018 5:45am Jul 16, 2018 5:45am
Quoting zeac14
{quote} You have some interesting points, however as I still do not see any potential in making any pips from this yet, so I shall reserve my comments. You might like to think about how your views can help translate into some applicable teachings or help fellow traders learn and improve. Till then... =)
what do you think i do?

its this: when you are experienced you know, that showing many people how to trade a special trading system is complete useless! it will not work because of many reasons. you will see this only done by failed traders, scammers, fakers, seminar sellers (near all are fakers and failed traders when not 100%),...maybe someone is honest here and not so experienced that he show the system to others or he has a "idiotic" system, thats maybe possible.
"idiotic" system i call what is with useless lines, like pivot, fibonacci, ..... whatever. you can draw any line by luck in a chart and have 100% same result then with this lines, ... only part sometimes is when many trade same stupid line, then some times its very very small difference, but so small that its not really important. thatswhy some try to speak about this systems to find more to trade so to help as self fulfilling prophecy. but thats other topic.

what you can do, is helping people to learn the basics (most important of all!!!!! - nothing is better then this) and correcting the misleading mistakes from others.
and basics are many points i mentioned in many posts already ( all math basics, broker basics, market basics, order basiscs, trading station basics, how to find and develop and backtest without cheating a strategy, what big mistakes you dont have to do however good it looks like (the reasons are found out later often with experience), how to check who is a faker/cheater very easy....., believe only in yourself until you dont know someone many many years in private, security of money in brokers,...)

to show that fractalfreak is a simple faker is one simple part of this. its so easy to see. and that his basis cant qwork because there are no orderbooks in otc markets is so crazy, anyone learned basics know this. of course he has often same lieke you use resitances, there he has more order showed .... wow, thats normal, thats resistances.... has nothing to do with true orderbook from otc brokers....... so you can often have correct trade because of wrong reason, what will this help. then learn better importance of restitance in trading and you get much much more for your time.....

but however, i only tell what i see, what you do with this information is not my problem. when i call people idiots who follow fractalfreak is not because they are in maybe any time, but they believe in otc orderbook existing whats impossible.

stay save.
  • #263
  • Jul 16, 2018 8:14am Jul 16, 2018 8:14am
'You can achieve ANYTHING if you DO NOT HAVE ANY FEAR, you DO YOUR HOMEWORK, you stay SANE and DO THE RIGHT THING.'

Some very wise words of advice from FractalFreak right there.

So much truth, I wrote it in my journal.
  • #264
  • Jul 16, 2018 8:22am Jul 16, 2018 8:22am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} when i call people idiots who follow fractalfreak is not because they are in maybe any time, but they believe in otc orderbook existing whats impossible. stay save.
Now I’m a newbie only trading live for 3 years, can you please explain what this picture is, for me it really looks like someone have full control of the market (this is an old picture)
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  • #265
  • Jul 16, 2018 8:31am Jul 16, 2018 8:31am
Quoting El1000
{quote} Now I’m a newbie only trading live for 3 years, can you please explain what this picture is, for me it really looks like someone have full control of the market (this is an old picture) {image}
The window contains the information about the summary of open positions of clients grouped according to financial instruments being traded, this information comes from and is used by the liquidity providers platforms.
  • #266
  • Jul 16, 2018 8:35am Jul 16, 2018 8:35am
Quoting vwap
{quote} The window contains the information about the summary of open positions of clients grouped according to financial instruments being traded, this information comes from and is used by the liquidity providers platforms.
Hi vwap, yes for me it looks like it but I can see that this only shows demo account, but if it is for demo, I’m pretty be sure there is something for live accounts also.
  • #267
  • Jul 16, 2018 8:52am Jul 16, 2018 8:52am
Quoting vwap
'You can achieve ANYTHING if you DO NOT HAVE ANY FEAR, you DO YOUR HOMEWORK, you stay SANE and DO THE RIGHT THING.' Some very wise words of advice from FractalFreak right there. So much truth, I wrote it in my journal.
but is it not funny for you, that fractalfreak dont believe in his own shit?

why do you think he is often a liar and fakes so many things? because he dont believe in himself, because he dont believe in his trading system, because he want look like someone he is not,.....

and having no fear is not good, you need to have this, or you will lose so much, because you cant see the risk or cant judge the risk correct! fear makes you extrem alerty and carefully and you get your goals with time.... fear is no bad feeling, only extrem fear that blocks your decisions or dont let you trade, but this comes from to much lots traded or bad trading system you cant trust or no learned basics you can trust in.

and the truth is, in forextrading (whatever will happen, even when all people learn all basics ) 80-99% need to lose that some can win, very simple basics math. but all the time all people think they can be winner, but 80-99% need to be wrong with this fact, or there are not really winner. you are only good in trading as long so many dont learn the basics, idiots like to trade orderbook where no orderbook in otc is possible to see,.... and so on, you need the many losers to be a winner. irony! of course the idiots never die and new will born each day.... its possible to help some, but most of this will never understand even this post and it is impossible to help them.
  • #268
  • Jul 16, 2018 9:03am Jul 16, 2018 9:03am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} but is it not funny for you, that fractalfreak dont believe in his own shit? why do you think he is often a liar and fakes so many things? because he dont believe in himself, because he dont believe in his trading system, because he want look like someone he is not,..... and having no fear is not good, you need to have this, or you will lose so much, because you cant see the risk or cant judge the risk correct! fear makes you extrem alerty and carefully and you get your goals with time.... fear is no bad feeling, only extrem fear that blocks...

Hello,
There you have described really well, loser and winner.
No one knows where the market is going, we speculate that's always 50/50.
  • #269
  • Jul 16, 2018 9:04am Jul 16, 2018 9:04am
Quoting El1000
{quote} Now I’m a newbie only trading live for 3 years, can you please explain what this picture is, for me it really looks like someone have full control of the market (this is an old picture) {image}
its a manager tool for metatrader.
broker know of course the accumulated buy and sell amount and prices.... they have to calculate the risk of whats not bringing to other liquity providers and they need to know the risk of the clients, because when someone will be over the account balance of zero the broker has to pay the risk. like in any company you need to know what exactly happens at any moment in your company.

what are your fears by this? there is no full control of the markets!

choose a good broker , of course there are broker who are 100% marketmaker and there can happen all whats possible, but i cant speak about this because i dont choose such brokers.
  • #270
  • Jul 16, 2018 9:07am Jul 16, 2018 9:07am
Quoting kette
{quote} Hello, There you have described really well, loser and winner. No one knows where the market is going, we speculate that's always 50/50.
of course, but you can for special moments increase your chance, many use statistics for let them have edges, other use fundamental edges that are more strong, other combine both....

when you would like for any second to say what will happen, thats impossible. you can only tell it from your startegy open until trade will close (or at least it should be this way....).
  • #271
  • Jul 16, 2018 9:10am Jul 16, 2018 9:10am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} of course, but you can for special moments increase your chance, many use statistics for let them have edges, other use fundamental edges that are more strong, other combine both.... when you would like for any second to say what will happen, thats impossible. you can only tell it from your startegy open until trade will close (or at least it should be this way....).


I agree with you
  • #272
  • Jul 16, 2018 10:02am Jul 16, 2018 10:02am
[quote=zeac14;11264929]
Quoting billytt
{quote} What's a feeder?
some of the not so good companies/scammers/wannabee tipsters/gurus use feeders to praise them, it can be the same person/s with different accounts. But you must admit something is not right.
Hedge fund managers do not tell potential clients how to trade ,THEY NEED RETAILERS TO FAIL.
trade well.
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #273
  • Jul 16, 2018 10:11am Jul 16, 2018 10:11am
Quoting El1000
{quote} Now I’m a newbie only trading live for 3 years, can you please explain what this picture is, for me it really looks like someone have full control of the market (this is an old picture) {image}
This is a MAM or PAMM mt4 platform. Money managers use that to trade customers funds.
All these names are his customers(stupid to show it to everyone)
But it looks fishy since the balance on most accounts are all at 5k, except if he just started
the service

4x
  • #274
  • Jul 16, 2018 11:02am Jul 16, 2018 11:02am
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
{quote} This is a MAM or PAMM mt4 platform. Money managers use that to trade customers funds. All these names are his customers(stupid to show it to everyone) But it looks fishy since the balance on most accounts are all at 5k, except if he just started the service 4x
i think you speak about multiaccount manager (MAM), thats a different tool.
  • #275
  • Jul 16, 2018 12:35pm Jul 16, 2018 12:35pm
i see the naughty thread is no longer posting.
Is it because they have been caught out, WHOSE BEEN IN THE COOKIE JAR...?????
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #276
  • Jul 16, 2018 11:34pm Jul 16, 2018 11:34pm
[quote=billytt;11266261]
Quoting zeac14
{quote} some of the not so good companies/scammers/wannabee tipsters/gurus use feeders to praise them, it can be the same person/s with different accounts. But you must admit something is not right. Hedge fund managers do not tell potential clients how to trade ,THEY NEED RETAILERS TO FAIL. trade well.
Thanks for explaining.. I am not a feeder. Although I am also trying to guess FF’s intentions, it may really be the case he has earned enough and genuinely like to help. I find it amusing that u guys try to guess who are the feeders while FF tries to guess who are the trolls. I believe there is much misunderstanding, perhaps mistrust caused by all the previous scammers. Forex trading is afterall the survival of the fittest
  • #277
  • Jul 17, 2018 12:08am Jul 17, 2018 12:08am
[quote=zeac14;11267627]
Quoting billytt
{quote} Thanks for explaining.. I am not a feeder. Although I am also trying to guess FF’s intentions, it may really be the case he has earned enough and genuinely like to help. I find it amusing that u guys try to guess who are the feeders while FF tries to guess who are the trolls. I believe there is much misunderstanding, perhaps mistrust caused by all the previous scammers. Forex trading is afterall the survival of the fittest
zeac14,

FF may or may not be a scammer but he definitely doesn't do that to help people. He's just executing his agenda.

trade well.
  • #278
  • Jul 17, 2018 12:28am Jul 17, 2018 12:28am
[quote=pooh123;11267720]
Quoting zeac14
{quote} zeac14, FF may or may not be a scammer but he definitely doesn't do that to help people. He's just executing his agenda. trade well.
Thanks for the tip. Do keep us posted when u know what’s the agenda.

There are definitely better ways to help people. Meanwhile I’ll just ride on what is provided for now as it fits my own agenda.
  • #279
  • Jul 17, 2018 12:33am Jul 17, 2018 12:33am
[quote=zeac14;11267740]
Quoting pooh123
{quote} Thanks for the tip. Do keep us posted when u know what’s the agenda. There are definitely better ways to help people. Meanwhile I’ll just ride on what is provided for now as it fits my own agenda.
Anyone with half a brain already knows his agenda.
  • #280
  • Jul 17, 2018 2:00am Jul 17, 2018 2:00am
[quote=zeac14;11267627]
Quoting billytt
{quote} Thanks for explaining.. I am not a feeder. Although I am also trying to guess FF’s intentions, it may really be the case he has earned enough and genuinely like to help. I find it amusing that u guys try to guess who are the feeders while FF tries to guess who are the trolls. I believe there is much misunderstanding, perhaps mistrust caused by all the previous scammers. Forex trading is afterall the survival of the fittest
ok, something does not look right though.
Actually, i have a good method and i have spoken about it for a few years,
i could actually say to people when they ask.... oh my friend who has a trading company can help you out at a cost.
But you will find nothing what so ever of me doing that in here.
None of my pro trader friends ,directors know i visit this place lol...
Trade well, take care
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
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