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  • #501
  • Jun 25, 2018 7:29pm Jun 25, 2018 7:29pm
Quoting Roger7777
All is well, Gene has sent out corrected copies to all who own the SUP_DEM_TS v 7c, the new version is 7cc.
Hi Guys,

Thanks, that's great!
  • #502
  • Jun 26, 2018 9:29am Jun 26, 2018 9:29am
Update:

There is a minor bug in the DB that sometimes affects the add too when using the AITG_SUP_DEM_TS that I am presently testing a fix for causing unwanted add too trades to be taken. I will send out an updated DB when testing is complete. This minor bug only affects the add too when using the SUP_DEM_TS. Don't use the add too for the time being.
  • #503
  • Jun 26, 2018 9:56am Jun 26, 2018 9:56am
Good Morning Traders. Are you ready for some updates?

The Man (Manual) vs Machine. It looks as though the Machine is taking a nice lead right now.

The Machine

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The Man (Manual)

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Here are the rest:

The Daily Sup Dem Full Auto

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15 Pip Renko Sup Dem - Note: This setup has the new 7cc on so it was disrupted in the process. These are results just from the restart last night. I'm sure it will retrace and give some back. We shall see, but still not bad for over night.

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  • #504
  • Jun 26, 2018 5:55pm Jun 26, 2018 5:55pm
Quoting seller9
Update: There is a minor bug in the DB that sometimes affects the add too when using the AITG_SUP_DEM_TS that I am presently testing a fix for causing unwanted add too trades to be taken. I will send out an updated DB when testing is complete. This minor bug only affects the add too when using the SUP_DEM_TS. Don't use the add too for the time being.
Hi Gene,

Is this also effecting the Initial trade?

I have seen the issue with the Add to, I had a NZDJPY pair that the chart shows the Add Trade taken (Add Hits 1) but no trade actually taken.

The other issue I have had is I had GBPUSD new trade take which shows in Alert window however it actually took 2 trade 1 second apart. Is this part of the same Add to issue?

Thanks, Matt.

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  • #505
  • Jun 26, 2018 7:03pm Jun 26, 2018 7:03pm
Quoting mightymatt
{quote} Hi Gene, Is this also effecting the Initial trade? I have seen the issue with the Add to, I had a NZDJPY pair that the chart shows the Add Trade taken (Add Hits 1) but no trade actually taken. The other issue I have had is I had GBPUSD new trade take which shows in Alert window however it actually took 2 trade 1 second apart. Is this part of the same Add to issue? Thanks, Matt. {image}
I would not use the SUP_DEM_TS on a live account as something has changed in MT4 that is causing other strange things to happen that had always been OK in the past.

Never ever use a TS right out of the box on a live account until you have done your own testing on a Demo Account to see how it performs.

I will need a couple days to check out my theory and correct it, so keep it off of live accounts.

The problem seems to be more active on short trades.

MT4 is a strange beast and it can come up with different answers to the same question. LOL

An updated DB and SUP_DEM_TS will be out in a few days, the present DB works fine with the previous TSs, only problem is with the new SUP_DEM_TS.
  • #506
  • Jun 26, 2018 7:58pm Jun 26, 2018 7:58pm
Hello Traders, do to the current issues with the new TS we are suspending the Man vs Machine challenge, and will restart once things are fixed with the TS.
  • #507
  • Jun 27, 2018 9:27am Jun 27, 2018 9:27am
Update:

Do to a change in the way requests from an EA or Indicator are handled by the Brokers Server I have implemented a fix into the code of our present DB and TSs to handle this. I need a day or two to confirm that the fix is working properly. Once confirmed I will send out a new version DB and also TSs to all present customers.

I am sorry for any problems you may have encountered but this is one of those things that can pop up from time to time when things change in the MT4 platform that we are not aware of until we discover them ourselves.

The test last night on the SUP_DEM TS with these fixes went off with no problems and has made a max of 148 pips so far. I will need another day or two to make sure all is back to normal now.

Thank You for your patience.
  • #508
  • Jun 27, 2018 10:20am Jun 27, 2018 10:20am
Thank Gene for your quick resolve. I will continue all the present setups once we get the fix. I am going to hold off on the Man vs Machine and just run the Auto 4hr Sup Dem. Just want to make sure we have no more broker or MT4 issues.
  • #509
  • Jun 28, 2018 1:56am Jun 28, 2018 1:56am
Quoting seller9
{quote} I would not use the SUP_DEM_TS on a live account as something has changed in MT4 that is causing other strange things to happen that had always been OK in the past. Never ever use a TS right out of the box on a live account until you have done your own testing on a Demo Account to see how it performs. I will need a couple days to check out my theory and correct it, so keep it off of live accounts. The problem seems to be more active on short trades. MT4 is a strange beast and it can come up with different answers to the same question. LOL...
MT4 is not the only platform that makes changes to the way things work and not tell it's users. So I understand the problem of dealing with these platforms that constantly make hidden or not well documented updates. A few months ago another well known platform, TradingView, updated their Alarm/Alert subsystem and did not tell anyone, the update was faulty and that caused havoc.
  • #510
  • Jun 29, 2018 7:32am Jun 29, 2018 7:32am
Good morning all,
Just talked to Gene, and it looks as though he has found a fix and even made improvements. That's why he is the best! He said one more day of testing and all updates will be going out this weekend. That is great news!
  • #511
  • Edited 4:00pm Jun 29, 2018 1:38pm | Edited 4:00pm
Well the version 8c updates have been sent out..

Always use the latest versions of any DB or TS.

Here is a video on how to use the AITG_SUP_DEM_TS_v8c.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/zXjF9tW...l=0&autoplay=1
  • #512
  • Jul 1, 2018 2:07am Jul 1, 2018 2:07am
Thank you for the updates - all set to go
  • #513
  • Jul 2, 2018 8:53am Jul 2, 2018 8:53am
Good morning Traders,
Well, so far so good. Or as us ex sailors would say, "steady as she goes"! V8 is working well. For now I just have a Daily and a 4HR Sup Dem running, and will share with daily updates. We want to encourage all to share your ideas here also.

Daily Sup Dem

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4 Hr Sup Dem

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  • #514
  • Jul 2, 2018 10:53am Jul 2, 2018 10:53am
Quoting Roger7777
Good morning Traders, Well, so far so good. Or as us ex sailors would say, "steady as she goes"! V8 is working well. For now I just have a Daily and a 4HR Sup Dem running, and will share with daily updates. We want to encourage all to share your ideas here also. Daily Sup Dem {image} 4 Hr Sup Dem {image}
I've just started my 4hr SUP DEM today. I noticed you don't use any Equity Lock nor Equity TP on your SupDEM setups. Would you use EL on a SupDEM setup, or just rely on the built-in TP/SL conditions to generate a basket Equity Profit?
  • #515
  • Jul 2, 2018 11:01am Jul 2, 2018 11:01am
Here is my first days result with the new version of SupDEM TS, Start at Asian Open, 4hr SupDEM, Daily DS, One and Done, 100/50 EL

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SupDem settings:

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A good Start.
  • #516
  • Jul 2, 2018 1:38pm Jul 2, 2018 1:38pm
Quoting Roger7777
Good morning Traders, Well, so far so good. Or as us ex sailors would say, "steady as she goes"! V8 is working well. For now I just have a Daily and a 4HR Sup Dem running, and will share with daily updates. We want to encourage all to share your ideas here also. Daily Sup Dem {image} 4 Hr Sup Dem {image}

Hey Roger
I like to see your results of Daily Sup Dem. There is little to no draw down. I have to say that is impressive (you can say that's what she said). The second Chart you posted which is 4 Hr Sup Dem scares me with such a huge draw down. Does this not concern you and Seller9?
I was going to buy the new TS even though I have gone to the well too many times. Thank you guys for scaring me away by doubling your cost of this TS. Why is it twice the price of all your others? Is it because you feel it is worth twice as much because it can be profitable or twice as much as the previous trading systems? Not trying to say anything negative about the TS because it has not been forwarded tested yet. I am just curious as to how you have come up with your pricing.

Cheers
  • #517
  • Jul 2, 2018 2:22pm Jul 2, 2018 2:22pm
Quoting AngelicaMari
{quote} Hey Roger I like to see your results of Daily Sup Dem. There is little to no draw down. I have to say that is impressive (you can say that's what she said). The second Chart you posted which is 4 Hr Sup Dem scares me with such a huge draw down. Does this not concern you and Seller9? I was going to buy the new TS even though I have gone to the well too many times. Thank you guys for scaring me away by doubling your cost of this TS. Why is it twice the price of all your others? Is it because you feel it is worth twice as much because it can...
Hey AngelicaMari,
I will be showing as I said the Daily and 4Hr setups for now. You know DD is a part of trading, and the goal is to limit it. The best way to limit it is not to trade. Just like you can't judge a book by its cover... you can't judge a trading system by one day. Yes, forward testing is the best way to judge, but who can predict what the market will do tomorrow? That's why you have to trade with a plan which includes an escape plan such as SL's or rescues. So the Daily looks great today... but who knows what tomorrow will bring.
Our prices are what they are. We feel our products are way superior than any thing our there, and our prices are more than half of anything that is close to what we are selling. I am not going to say anymore on that. People going shopping, they see a value in a product, or they don't. If they do, then they buy. If they don't see value, then they don't buy. You are free to buy or not to buy.
We here at AITG are under no pressure to sell... most of us are retired. We are doing what we are doing to share and help others be more successful traders, with a little compensation.
Please forgive me if I might come across as though I was challenged... Have a nice day!
  • #518
  • Edited 4:00pm Jul 2, 2018 3:37pm | Edited 4:00pm
First day on a $48 dollar account, looks like roughly 18% gain, will see what the rest of the week brings.

Started 50 minutes after new week started 16:50 CST and first trade took off about 3 hours later.
Only one trade all day which hit its TP around 08:40 CST and then around 14:30 CST 3 more trades kicked in which are presently still open.

Max DD = $3.22
Max NE = $9.07

Very conservative settings.

SUP_DEM_TS_v8c on H1

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Here is the one closed trade so far for today.

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Presently Open Trades, all NZD

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  • #519
  • Jul 2, 2018 4:00pm Jul 2, 2018 4:00pm
Quoting AngelicaMari
{quote} Hey Roger I like to see your results of Daily Sup Dem. There is little to no draw down. I have to say that is impressive (you can say that's what she said). The second Chart you posted which is 4 Hr Sup Dem scares me with such a huge draw down. Does this not concern you and Seller9? I was going to buy the new TS even though I have gone to the well too many times.......
Quoting Roger7777
{quote} Hey AngelicaMari, I will be showing as I said the Daily and 4Hr setups for now. You know DD is a part of trading, and the goal is to limit it. The best way to limit it is not to trade. Just like you can't judge a book by its cover... you can't judge a trading system by one day. Yes, forward testing is the best way to judge, but who can predict what the market will do tomorrow? That's why you have to trade with a plan which includes an escape plan such as SL's or rescues. So the Daily looks great today... but who knows what tomorrow will...
Well said Roger!

AngelicaMari .... You say your not trying to say anything negative however that's exactly what you have done and are doing, at least be straight up and honest when you are going to have a crack at someone.

Draw downs are part of trading and if you don't think they are then you really are on another planet. You don't seem to read or listen to the videos and expect a Holy Grail for $99.00! I'm a betting man so I would bet that you have lost way more than that in the markets to date. Like Roger said, if you don't see value in it then don't buy it. You say they have scared you off from buying it but I have a feeling you have/had no intention of buying it which is fine but maybe keep that to yourself.
Did you ever stop to think that maybe the price reflects the work and effort that has gone into it or the value that it brings? Gee I have paid $200+ for EA's previously and they have turned out to be a bucket of crap but as roger said we are dealing with a market that is not consistent by any means. Do you think hedge funds, and investment funds don't loose money some days/months and even sometimes years?

What you failed to see is that DD was $93 and the max equity\ was $153 which is heading towards 2:1 RR which I think most people would be more than happy with. Ill take that any day.

I would suggest you either buy the DB and TS etc and work with everyone on using it and making it profitable or maybe go and look for the Holy Grail you are searching for. I would rather Roger, Gene and the team spend their time improving what they have than engaging in all this kind of rubbish.

Matt.
  • #520
  • Jul 2, 2018 4:59pm Jul 2, 2018 4:59pm
[quote=mightymatt;11223353]{quote} {quote} Well said Roger! AngelicaMari .... You o either han engaging in all this kind of rubbish. Matt.[/quote

MightyMat this is the second time you have attacked me on a personal level. I am betting that is how you attack all women. I never said anything about holy grail. I actually said I was impressed with one of his Rogers charts. I asked if he and Seller9 had concerns about D. Is that no a normal question? I asked why the double up in price, this is the commercial section isn’t it? I only asked to see if there is something we don’t know.

Finally MightyMat (she says while laughing) please don’t talk or feel in any way obligated to speak to me again. I am not going to let a little itsy bitsi man like you influence me in any way.
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