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  • #6,381
  • Jun 23, 2018 5:03am Jun 23, 2018 5:03am
Quoting beefStew
Hi all, im back with another question regarding the rules. there is this "rule of alignment" i found on this post: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...93#post8943793 in the chart image in that post, AKT adviced Conom to remember the rule of alignment which says that when a momentum is lost, trader has to find a higher TF zone before continue trading. I started reading every single post on this thread and did not find any written set of rules about SAD method that mentioned rule of alignment, but almost all people on the...
Hello beefstew
Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to have you

As far as rules go, the rules the traders here use are set out in videos on the youtube channel, more visual.
In addition, as you will see from reading the posts, traders often describe those rules in their thought processes when they post charts. Myself included, with clear annotations and descriptions of their thoughts

There is a lot to get through for sure but you will get there. Not to worry

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,382
  • Jun 23, 2018 5:09am Jun 23, 2018 5:09am
Quoting QuietStorm
D1 Downward momentum broken with opposing supply zone being removed. H4 Price action looks like it's moving up. H1 Also here price action seems up. {image} {image} {image}
Hello QuietStorm, been a while.
Thank you for your charts on the USDCHF

If i may, here are some thoughts on the daily chart.

best wishes
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  • #6,383
  • Jun 23, 2018 5:17am Jun 23, 2018 5:17am
Quoting Tanmayagrawa
Hello bro, Thanks for such an informative thread. It has helped me a lot in my trading. However I would like to ask a question regarding the trend Here is the monthly chart of NIFTY Index (INDIA). While analysing, the up trend line has not been broken yet, however it seems that supply has broken the latest demand low. So in such a case, what will you say that NIFTY is in downtrend or uptrend? Only if I have to go by monthly only, should I long or short NIFTY?{image}
Hello Tanmayagrawa
Thank you for this question, it is one that is often asked and can be a challenge for traders.

Please see the chart below for my thoughts on the Nifty 50 Monthly chart

best wishes
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  • #6,384
  • Jun 23, 2018 5:22am Jun 23, 2018 5:22am
Quoting mattatats
{quote} Go to the Back to Basics video on Trends, very helpful. In above scenario there isn't any new momentum established yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1lFfiucaDg
Hello mattatats

Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to meet you and thank you for joining in the conversation

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,385
  • Jun 23, 2018 5:30am Jun 23, 2018 5:30am
Hello everyone

Some thoughts on the big picture chart of the EURUSD

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  • #6,386
  • Jun 23, 2018 5:42am Jun 23, 2018 5:42am
Hello everyone

A big picture look at the GBPAUD

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  • #6,387
  • Jun 23, 2018 9:07am Jun 23, 2018 9:07am
Hello guys...

Here my opinion about EURUSD

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Weekly demand area broken by the price and confirmation with piercing candle

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price pullback on the daily demand area and the 2 candle close higher

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I am going to take LONG position if the price pullback on h4 demand area

I want to hear from you guys...

Thanks and Regards,
sonigl
  • #6,388
  • Jun 23, 2018 9:19am Jun 23, 2018 9:19am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello beefstew Welcome to T.I.O.F Good to have you As far as rules go, the rules the traders here use are set out in videos on the youtube channel, more visual. In addition, as you will see from reading the posts, traders often describe those rules in their thought processes when they post charts. Myself included, with clear annotations and descriptions of their thoughts There is a lot to get through for sure but you will get there. Not to worry best wishes

Akt, Were you a member at Set and forget community ?
  • #6,389
  • Jun 23, 2018 9:34pm Jun 23, 2018 9:34pm
Quoting sonigl
Hello guys... Here my opinion about EURUSD {image} Weekly demand area broken by the price and confirmation with piercing candle {image} price pullback on the daily demand area and the 2 candle close higher {image} I am going to take LONG position if the price pullback on h4 demand area I want to hear from you guys... Thanks and Regards, sonigl
My first demand zone is a little tighter than yours, either way we have to same outlook. But my general bias is bearish.
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  • #6,390
  • Edited 11:16pm Jun 24, 2018 11:05pm | Edited 11:16pm
Good Day Traders

Any thoughts on this USOil Daily? Is it okay to look for entries on lower timeframes even though new trend has not been established but downward momentum is broken. With a demand zone being created with a strong minimum move away? To go long btw
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  • #6,391
  • Jun 25, 2018 8:52am Jun 25, 2018 8:52am
Hello Akt and fellow traders. There is such question...
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I am sorry, i speak English a little bit
  • #6,392
  • Jun 25, 2018 9:34am Jun 25, 2018 9:34am
Quoting Tanmayagrawa
Thanks foxtrader and mallee for the info. I will be looking the video and all the information provided in the forum. Today I took a trade on take (Indian stock) on which stop loss triggered a couple of times. Can you please help me out what could be the reason for this? Did I make any mistake or was it part of trading ?{image}{image}{image} Monthly chart is up Weekly chart is up Therefore on daily, I entered on the 2 demand zones formed. Both times it resulted in loss. Please help me out with this.
Momentum is all up. However, you have not identified the trend lines properly.
The DZs you have identified are weak basing areas.
You need to identify a strong and fresh zone.
The W1 zone around 220 is not fresh and is kind of iffy with that liquidity surge in price. There js a chance this zone may be taken out.
In that case, the next fresh W1 DZ is around 164.

If price reaches the W1 DZ look for entries in the DTF
Live life king size !
  • #6,393
  • Jun 25, 2018 10:38am Jun 25, 2018 10:38am
Yes foxtrader, I too noticed it. Thanks for helping me out

Just a question to all the experienced traders please let me know which of the following is a higher probablity setup?

1) Monthly up, Weekly up and then buying on daily demand zones (More likely continuation patterns)
2)Monthly down, Weekly down and then buying on Nested weekly DZ in Monthly DZ (Monthly demand zone is fresh)

Which one of the above has a better probability ? Also in my little experience, these are the 2 most high prob setups that I could find till now.
  • #6,394
  • Jun 25, 2018 6:57pm Jun 25, 2018 6:57pm
Quoting BogdanM.ua
Hello Akt and fellow traders. There is such question... {image}
I stand to be corrected at this but I think it's momentum 2 unless other traders think otherwise.
  • #6,395
  • Jun 25, 2018 7:54pm Jun 25, 2018 7:54pm
Quoting QuietStorm
{quote} I stand to be corrected at this but I think it's momentum 2 unless other traders think otherwise.
I concur. Last 2 valleys.
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  • #6,396
  • Jun 26, 2018 11:47am Jun 26, 2018 11:47am
Quoting QuietStorm
Good Day Traders Any thoughts on this USOil Daily? Is it okay to look for entries on lower timeframes even though new trend has not been established but downward momentum is broken. With a demand zone being created with a strong minimum move away? To go long btw {image}
Hello QuietStorm

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Oil.
I concur with your levels. I would move the distal line of the demand zone a little lower though.
Yes, it would be reasonable to have considered long trades on smaller timeframes but not so much where prices are right now, because they are closer to supply

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,397
  • Jun 26, 2018 11:48am Jun 26, 2018 11:48am
Quoting BogdanM.ua
Hello Akt and fellow traders. There is such question... {image}
Hello BogdanM.ua

Momentum 2.

Remember, within the methodology, we always start everything from current price.
Based on your schematic, Momentum 2 would be current momentum for this timeframe

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,398
  • Jun 26, 2018 11:54am Jun 26, 2018 11:54am
Quoting Tanmayagrawa
Yes foxtrader, I too noticed it. Thanks for helping me out Just a question to all the experienced traders please let me know which of the following is a higher probablity setup? 1) Monthly up, Weekly up and then buying on daily demand zones (More likely continuation patterns) 2)Monthly down, Weekly down and then buying on Nested weekly DZ in Monthly DZ (Monthly demand zone is fresh) Which one of the above has a better probability ? Also in my little experience, these are the 2 most high prob setups that I could find till now.
Hello Tanmayagrawa

If i may please,

1. Buy daily demand levels until and unless you are at weekly supply

2. This is a counter trend trade and must be treated as such. Monthly and weekly and down, so buying demand nested in monthly is possible but must by definition require confirmation

Hope that helps

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,399
  • Jun 26, 2018 11:56am Jun 26, 2018 11:56am
Quoting sonigl
Hello guys... Here my opinion about EURUSD {image} Weekly demand area broken by the price and confirmation with piercing candle {image} price pullback on the daily demand area and the 2 candle close higher {image} I am going to take LONG position if the price pullback on h4 demand area I want to hear from you guys... Thanks and Regards, sonigl
Hello sonigl
Thank you for your thoughts on the EURUSD

The process followed is accurate as far as i can see and the long trade was a viable one for a counter trend move.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,400
  • Jun 26, 2018 12:06pm Jun 26, 2018 12:06pm
Hello everyone

A trade on the EURJPY we discussed in last week's Roundtable meeting

before and after..

best wishes
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