I had a strange result yesterday. Negative pips, but profit.
Looks like lot sizing?
Looks like lot sizing?
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- #744
- Jun 15, 2018 7:10am Jun 15, 2018 7:10am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
Hey All...
I have a box up and running and should be getting my files and properly sorted over this weekend.
Sitting back and observing has forced me to be a lot more patient, which, is probably a good thing.
After setting up my terminals, I've rebuilt the Stochs Template and on the backside, incorporated the Pivot Trading Template that Davit built HERE and added it to Post 1 - Download LINK.
It is kind of hijacking some of his ideas, to be sure...but if you look at the M15 to see where the TDI and Stochs line up...you can see that we really aren't that far from how our ideas line up, only the Stochs version is to keep more in trend vs using the actual pivots to guide trading decisions.
M1-M15 - Pretty much the same - M15 does have pivots added.
M30-D1 - Is a clone of Davit's set up - different colors.
The idea will be to work with a few ideas on both Triggering Manually and on Full Auto to take advantage of some of the ideas brought out and marry them into some of our current grid logic. Might be some additional coding needed...may be some longer term charts employed...but it's kind of an idea to let you know where my mind is at with this.
I have a box up and running and should be getting my files and properly sorted over this weekend.
Sitting back and observing has forced me to be a lot more patient, which, is probably a good thing.
After setting up my terminals, I've rebuilt the Stochs Template and on the backside, incorporated the Pivot Trading Template that Davit built HERE and added it to Post 1 - Download LINK.
It is kind of hijacking some of his ideas, to be sure...but if you look at the M15 to see where the TDI and Stochs line up...you can see that we really aren't that far from how our ideas line up, only the Stochs version is to keep more in trend vs using the actual pivots to guide trading decisions.
M1-M15 - Pretty much the same - M15 does have pivots added.
M30-D1 - Is a clone of Davit's set up - different colors.
The idea will be to work with a few ideas on both Triggering Manually and on Full Auto to take advantage of some of the ideas brought out and marry them into some of our current grid logic. Might be some additional coding needed...may be some longer term charts employed...but it's kind of an idea to let you know where my mind is at with this.
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- #745
- Jun 15, 2018 7:17am Jun 15, 2018 7:17am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
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- #746
- Jun 15, 2018 7:19am Jun 15, 2018 7:19am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
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- #747
- Jun 15, 2018 8:08am Jun 15, 2018 8:08am
- Joined May 2017 | Status: Trader | 3,885 Posts
Hey All... I have a box up and running and should be getting my files and properly sorted over this weekend.
I look forward to what you cook up next lol..
I must say that Hybrid All In is one of my favorites right now, and with the right settings its a profit machine.
This account is not even 2 weeks old and its already tripled itself haha.. It went through some hairy moments, but pulied itself though nicely. Still holding a bit of DD, but I know it will close the rest up in profit soon enough.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
- #748
- Jun 15, 2018 8:42am Jun 15, 2018 8:42am
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
{quote} Great news Magix!
With Great Risk...Can Come Great Reward.
It can also bust an account...I've been a long time pro at that game too.
lol
I've had some of these ideas floating around for a while, only now that I am throwing a little more focus at them. Downloaded the base version again and did a little playing with the template and some triggering and have added 4% to an account overnight working with M5 and M15 charts on a few pairs...
Having been through Davit's thread a few times, I can see that those who are trying this 100% manually have trade clusters in some areas and zero from better vantage points. If we can use either a simple triggering that can be activated or work with a primary first trade through pending orders and effective cost averaging, it really just becomes a matter of a set and wait for profit.
Here's one chart from overnight:
This was an aggressive triggering methodology, that can easily be tamed. I did take the primary, manually and allowed the logic to continue on...still working through the ideas.
Davit's trading isn't entirely different than the No-Nedge logic that we already work with in a few of the released versions, it just has a little more structure to it. Taking this and adding in an effective Trigger on Grid methodology can help close some of the gaps, increase the profitability while reducing the risk of multiple clustered trades or missed profit points.
Much as I didn't appreciate the ass-puckering thought of losing all of my shit by not backing it up...I have found the silver lining to this dark cloud in the time it has afforded me for a little focus.
All's well that ends well.
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- #749
- Jun 15, 2018 12:38pm Jun 15, 2018 12:38pm
Glad to here your nearly up & running Magix and eagerly look forward to your future developments....
Some great discussion here and exchange of different ideas/settings on how to run the EAs - all with a common theme from what I can see.... people are making money whether it be real or demo it really doesn't matter as it is just proving it works. This is a testement to your forex understanding & coding skills so please keep the ideas coming!
Personaly I wish I could throw a few grand into a real account on some of the more aggressive settings talked about here with sum start lot enabled but haven't quite got the balls just yet - so I've gone for something with the risk toned down a little on the 5min charts. Although there is always risk in forex especially with grid/martingale strategies, the below Hybrid All settings over 3 weeks has generated nearly 25% with dd never going over 7-8% ( currently approx 4%) - this is pretty ipressive in my book, albeit early days is very encouraging. This is obviously not as impresive as some accounts discussed here that are doubling/trippling over the same timescales, but to me this just shows the great versatility of the EAs depending on your risk appetite.
The time seems to be nearing to go live shortly if it keeps perforing like this !!
Some great discussion here and exchange of different ideas/settings on how to run the EAs - all with a common theme from what I can see.... people are making money whether it be real or demo it really doesn't matter as it is just proving it works. This is a testement to your forex understanding & coding skills so please keep the ideas coming!
Personaly I wish I could throw a few grand into a real account on some of the more aggressive settings talked about here with sum start lot enabled but haven't quite got the balls just yet - so I've gone for something with the risk toned down a little on the 5min charts. Although there is always risk in forex especially with grid/martingale strategies, the below Hybrid All settings over 3 weeks has generated nearly 25% with dd never going over 7-8% ( currently approx 4%) - this is pretty ipressive in my book, albeit early days is very encouraging. This is obviously not as impresive as some accounts discussed here that are doubling/trippling over the same timescales, but to me this just shows the great versatility of the EAs depending on your risk appetite.
The time seems to be nearing to go live shortly if it keeps perforing like this !!
"All good things to those who wait"
- #750
- Jun 15, 2018 1:50pm Jun 15, 2018 1:50pm
- Joined May 2017 | Status: Trader | 3,885 Posts
has generated nearly 25% with dd never going over 7-8% ( currently approx 4%) - {image} {image}
I'm really curious about Hybrid All In running on M5, is anyone else testing Hybrid on M5? How is it going so far?
Achieving 25% in less than 1 month is excellent considering the low DD.
If I can get Hybrid making 20-30% pm with less than 10% DD I'll be set lol.
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- #751
- Jun 15, 2018 3:06pm Jun 15, 2018 3:06pm
- Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Half in the Bag | 17,827 Posts
Glad to here your nearly up & running Magix and eagerly look forward to your future developments.... Some great discussion here and exchange of different ideas/settings on how to run the EAs - all with a common theme from what I can see.... people are making money whether it be real or demo it really doesn't matter as it is just proving it works. This is a testement to your forex understanding & coding skills so please keep the ideas coming! Personaly I wish I could throw a few grand into a real account on some of the more aggressive settings talked...
{quote} Great results man!
Take everything that is routinely spouted about Direction and Draw Downs and Risk Percentages and throw it out the fucking window!
Seriously!
The Key to your success is consistency at the levels you are comfortable with.
Can anybody explain to me the value of having $10k in Market and risking 1% of it before cutting the trade to close in loss?
Or a 1:1 R:R?
ZERO fucking value...
The ideas that we work with and have ability to incorporate into our own personal profitability is where we all need to find our success.
And if somebody else doesn't like it...well...they can write their comments on a piece of paper...fold it up neatly...and shove it squarely up their ass!
FUCK EM!
Roll with your own dough and play by your own rules!
\m/
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{quote} Great results man!
When i see Hybrid -300 it does not bother me,because i know the return will be bigger too,when i see it -20 it bothers because the return will be less
.Also another intersting test im running is Hybrid + Stoch2 with EURGBP EURUSD GBPUSD . Those are the best results so far.
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- #753
- Jun 15, 2018 3:41pm Jun 15, 2018 3:41pm
- Joined Dec 2017 | Status: Trader | 3,743 Posts
I don't need to be good at the game, only good enough to beat my opponent,
- #755
- Jun 15, 2018 9:06pm Jun 15, 2018 9:06pm
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- #757
- Edited 4:24am Jun 16, 2018 3:11am | Edited 4:24am
- Joined May 2017 | Status: Trader | 1,564 Posts
Just an idea for better martingale.
Do not use a fixed pip (points) distance for compounding trades but use ADR / x
Also use bulls-bears power to hold of compounding trades until the relevant one loses its upper hand.
The difference in DD is remarkable (eurjpy).
Also low volatility pairs can be traded (eurchf)
fixed no power check
variable with power check
High volatility (low liquidity) pairs like eursek
Without
With
And finally the euraud move that blew one of the accounts.
Without
With
Do not use a fixed pip (points) distance for compounding trades but use ADR / x
Also use bulls-bears power to hold of compounding trades until the relevant one loses its upper hand.
The difference in DD is remarkable (eurjpy).
Also low volatility pairs can be traded (eurchf)
fixed no power check
variable with power check
High volatility (low liquidity) pairs like eursek
Without
With
And finally the euraud move that blew one of the accounts.
Without
With
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- #758
- Edited 4:36am Jun 16, 2018 4:25am | Edited 4:36am
- Joined Jun 2012 | Status: Trader | 1,281 Posts
Just an idea for better martingale. Do not use a fixed pip (points) distance for compounding trades but use ADR / x Also use bulls-bears power to hold of compounding trades until the relevant one loses its upper hand. The difference in DD is remarkable (eurjpy). {image} {image} Also low volatility pairs can be traded (eurchf) fixed no power check {image} variable with power check {image} High volatility (low liquidity) pairs like eursek Without {image} With {image}
! I'm already using ATR-based Step Orders successfully, and using BB power would make sense as well...IMHO. Perhaps we would be able to using a moderate MartingaleStartLot for better and safer performance with those features!?Nice weekend, jdva
I never lose - either I win or I learn...
After 85 days, the account is still running....
Key Takeaways
- Manage the risk and the reward will be sweet. FX is not a get rich quick scheme. If you take too much risk, you may blow up your account faster than you blink your eye. We all have different risk tolerance. There were some tough moments and the account is still holding out.
- Watch the trades. Sometimes I assist too with my trades at key levels and be sure you know what you are doing. I use pivot points and harmonics to determine where I load additional trades.
- This style of trading is best suited for low ADR pairs. For high ADR, you have to tame the beast. Here is how I am doing it. By using this settings, I am basically taking 1 trade every 15 minutes provided the hybrid trade condition is met and the last trade is at least 5 pips away. I have seen a slow down in the risks and number of trades since I switched to this settings.
- Magix advised $200 - $300 per 0.01 lot per pair. I advise $500 - $700 per 0.01 lot per pair. This will keep you safe in long trends against your positions.
- If you can, avoid sumstart as much as you can. Fixed lot will keep your account safe in trends provided you have sufficient space between the trades. e.g. the GA, EA, EU trends in the past 2 weeks would have killed several accounts.
Key Takeaways
- Manage the risk and the reward will be sweet. FX is not a get rich quick scheme. If you take too much risk, you may blow up your account faster than you blink your eye. We all have different risk tolerance. There were some tough moments and the account is still holding out.
- Watch the trades. Sometimes I assist too with my trades at key levels and be sure you know what you are doing. I use pivot points and harmonics to determine where I load additional trades.
- This style of trading is best suited for low ADR pairs. For high ADR, you have to tame the beast. Here is how I am doing it. By using this settings, I am basically taking 1 trade every 15 minutes provided the hybrid trade condition is met and the last trade is at least 5 pips away. I have seen a slow down in the risks and number of trades since I switched to this settings.
- Magix advised $200 - $300 per 0.01 lot per pair. I advise $500 - $700 per 0.01 lot per pair. This will keep you safe in long trends against your positions.
- If you can, avoid sumstart as much as you can. Fixed lot will keep your account safe in trends provided you have sufficient space between the trades. e.g. the GA, EA, EU trends in the past 2 weeks would have killed several accounts.
{quote} With Great Risk...Can Come Great Reward. It can also bust an account...I've been a long time pro at that game too. lol I've had some of these ideas floating around for a while, only now that I am throwing a little more focus at them. Downloaded the base version again and did a little playing with the template and some triggering and have added 4% to an account overnight working with M5 and M15 charts on a few pairs... Having been through Davit's thread a few times, I can see that those who are trying this 100% manually have trade clusters...
Here are some of my thoughts.
- Consider adding a user defined Pivot level to start trading to the weekly median or hard code it to (61, 78, 100 e.t.c.)
- Define the max number of trades to be taken at each level.
The decision to trade will include weekly median, pivot point, primary triggering, CA method, pip step, time and the max number of trades allowed at each pivot level.
See below some trades in progress. This is manual and I combine harmonics, PA and pivot points.
Disclaimer: Don't try this on your live account.