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  • #1
  • First Post: Jun 14, 2018 12:26am Jun 14, 2018 12:26am
Good day to all,

Purpose of this thread is to show the strength of the Russian might in being able to hit 25k before account turns into dust. The thread will be used to produce live recommendations in hopes of everyone seeing that Russia has the best traders in the world. Our main focus is on EU GU and UJ pairs. Timeframe is everyone 's favorite;Tick charts
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  • #2
  • Jun 14, 2018 1:17am Jun 14, 2018 1:17am
I aggree that russians have some real mindblowing trading style, you took nice trades i see but very big lots.

is this kind of system that work for some time, but when fail you lose everything?
  • #3
  • Jun 14, 2018 1:41am Jun 14, 2018 1:41am
Quoting dornachum203
I aggree that russians have some real mindblowing trading style, you took nice trades i see but very big lots. is this kind of system that work for some time, but when fail you lose everything?
Good day. Should i trade with no stop loss then it would result in losing everything. However, the trades come with a predetermined sl and tp which is harder than cement. The thing which will deter most people from following this system is the expected R:R you will notice most wins are 7 pips which means the sl on the same orders are 14 pips if entered the moment the signal is given and 1:1 if we allow a 50% retrace of the previous wave on the tick charts.ch
Being as i mentioned waves, the waves I referr to is much like Elliot waves but a personalized version of the method. The beauty is if you stop out is because you as a trader did something wrong. The mistake could range from miscalculations to not recalulating the wicks from the last shift in price.
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  • #4
  • Jun 14, 2018 3:30am Jun 14, 2018 3:30am
From my experience i've learnd that 90% of time the trades come against you few pips or more before go in profit so maybe you should let the trade retrace to get 1:1 RR ? just a thought..

Anyway its looking nice for now, hope you be able to keep that returns for the long run, i'm following you.
  • #5
  • Jun 14, 2018 6:06am Jun 14, 2018 6:06am
Quoting dornachum203
From my experience i've learnd that 90% of time the trades come against you few pips or more before go in profit so maybe you should let the trade retrace to get 1:1 RR ? just a thought.. Anyway its looking nice for now, hope you be able to keep that returns for the long run, i'm following you.
i have thought about it many times, but doing so would decrease the amount of entries which I will have using that particular Algo hack. 1:1 r:r doesn't mean much as what .One expects almost always is different from what occurs.
If i waited 6 hours for the algo which allows me to enter into large lots but I then wait for the price to retrace between the range (50% retrace) then my expected R:R would improve greatly from 1:.5 to 1:1 but the probability that the price will retrace to my liking is not only incalculable but adds more stress to me having to then watch the trade and manage it.

my current EU long has thr 1:.5 r:r but that mught differ greatly from the Real R:R which is what we know as Drawdown in pips : Tp in pips.
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  • #6
  • Jun 14, 2018 6:11am Jun 14, 2018 6:11am
My current EU long is posted below.

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You see my sl is 15 pips and from entry TP is around 7.5 pips at 1.18330 The registered tp is much higher as we are up against the clock on high impact news and a move up prior to the news would more than likely be very sharp. I am mot to crazy about my 1.1 spread on EU but i do get money back from my daily trades so it isnt that bad. Thus far over 500usd in rebate.
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  • #7
  • Jun 14, 2018 8:58am Jun 14, 2018 8:58am
Quoting IggyMon
My current EU long is posted below. {image} You see my sl is 15 pips and from entry TP is around 7.5 pips at 1.18330 The registered tp is much higher as we are up against the clock on high impact news and a move up prior to the news would more than likely be very sharp. I am mot to crazy about my 1.1 spread on EU but i do get money back from my daily trades so it isnt that bad. Thus far over 500usd in rebate.
Came so close to sl and the price quickly reverse to hit the tp and then the reverse came.
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  • #8
  • Jun 14, 2018 9:18am Jun 14, 2018 9:18am
264% return with -60 pips? It is pure martingale and it is like Putin`s politik - pure blef that can works only short term
  • #9
  • Jun 14, 2018 10:12am Jun 14, 2018 10:12am
Quoting olvus
264% return with -60 pips? It is pure martingale and it is like Putin`s politik - pure blef that can works only short term
My last trade resulted in negative 140 pips which is about 20x my avg win and loss. Losing 140 pips on a n order .01 when you have an account over 9,000 usd isn't risking anything at all. As mentioned on another thread, martingale is just money management. In no way shape or form does it determine if you buy or sell. The buying and selling has everything to do with the system and not the money management.
As for short term.... Well you can win im the long term if you havn't accumulated enough wins in the short term. i 'm not a position trader but a price action trader. So here in Russia we don't look forward to tomorrow because today hasn't finished yet.
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  • #10
  • Jun 14, 2018 11:04am Jun 14, 2018 11:04am
In my opinion martingale is closer to gambling then to trading. Anyway it is youre way. Wish you luck
  • #11
  • Jun 14, 2018 3:15pm Jun 14, 2018 3:15pm
Quoting olvus
In my opinion martingale is closer to gambling then to trading. Anyway it is youre way. Wish you luck
I see. Well hopefully you can do a bit more research to help you change your mind, as martingale only has to do with money management. If a pere son decides to double or triple down after a loss, the person still has to pick a direction wh ich is where the system one uses comes to play.
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  • #12
  • Jun 14, 2018 8:48pm Jun 14, 2018 8:48pm
Quoting IggyMon
Good day to all, Purpose of this thread is to show the strength of the Russian might in being able to hit 25k before account turns into dust. The thread will be used to produce live recommendations in hopes of everyone seeing that Russia has the best traders in the world. Our main focus is on EU GU and UJ pairs. Timeframe is everyone 's favorite;Tick charts
can you beat Australian dancingphil ? he made 88 millions trading forex; and he trades 500 lots

https://www.forexfactory.com/dancingphil

he is claiming to have made that; we haven't seen proof yet. However we are sure that he is a gigolo in china (his own confession)
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  • #13
  • Jun 14, 2018 11:47pm Jun 14, 2018 11:47pm
Wow
I'm impressed with your style but can you share your system?
  • #14
  • Jun 15, 2018 1:15am Jun 15, 2018 1:15am
Not sure about traders but Russia has the best indicator coders in the world.
Dragon Rider
  • #15
  • Jun 15, 2018 1:16am Jun 15, 2018 1:16am
Quoting kenny4real
Wow I'm impressed with your style but can you share your system?
Here in Mother Russia if you teach a man how to fish, you better believe you won't have food come tomorrow, which is why I won't be sharing my system. Hopefully the trades I take will be enough for everyone to benefit from but sharing isn't my type of Vodka.

Quoting barloc
Not sure about traders but Russia has the best indicator coders in the world.
After lthis weeks profit, I might just tale today off and look forward to next week. 15k usd is a nice amount of money to be aggressive with wouldn't you say?
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  • #16
  • Jun 15, 2018 7:20am Jun 15, 2018 7:20am
Subscribed.

Questions:

1) Have you tried hedging your trades? If your win rate is high enough you can release one leg of the hedge and recoup your initial loss and even earn some profit. Assuming a 90% win rate your chances of blowing your account would be 0.1*0.1=0.01 or 1%.

2) Do you like tick chart more than m5? How did you set up tick chart in mt4?

3) Have you thought of riding the trend once you are in a trade and positive? You could set SL at breakeven +1 and let it ride.

Some people need to think a little outside the box and know that there are different ways ---> alphadude there is no reason to speak against a deceased man.
  • #17
  • Jun 15, 2018 4:19pm Jun 15, 2018 4:19pm
Quoting Nenuser
Subscribed. Questions: 1) Have you tried hedging your trades? If your win rate is high enough you can release one leg of the hedge and recoup your initial loss and even earn some profit. Assuming a 90% win rate your chances of blowing your account would be 0.1*0.1=0.01 or 1%. 2) Do you like tick chart more than m5? How did you set up tick chart in mt4? 3) Have you thought of riding the trend once you are in a trade and positive? You could set SL at breakeven +1 and let it ride. Some people need to think a little outside the box and know that there...

Thank you for leaving a recommendation my friend. To answer your question, hedging would simply kill my already megar profits in pips. Avg win is around 6 pips for the orders larger than 3.00 lots. Once the TP runs and you trail or hedge then you are emotionally attached to the pair that youwould have normally taken profit from and then forgotten about.
Trading the way I do keeps me away fro m the market when most are invested both emotionally and financially. The market is created on the tick so why would anyone else accept any other delay. Thhe mt4 layout buffers alot but trust me when I tell you that 6 pips looks like 30 pips on the 1m. Even on the tick we perceive the same "formations". Thhatis what made me start programming.
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  • #18
  • Jun 15, 2018 5:03pm Jun 15, 2018 5:03pm
I recall when i first started learning people online at toddler pips would always use terms like "round numbers", "support and resistance", pivots, MA avgs, Trend lines, formations just to name a few. I then asked myself that if so many people post about it then it must work for them at some point most of the time. So if you look at fibs ( to calculate high and low range) and MA alone then you would be basically hunting a certain algorithm. Yours is based on an amount of points and if greater than x recalculate next range which can not exceed x amount of pips. The x allows you to only focus on x and nothing more, independent of what the market is doing or is about to do. How easily could you burn 15k in a day?

Take the smallest TF mt4 gives us and simply calculate the round numbdr in which the trigger is set in favor of the "counter trend". A which point a n extension of 6 pips of the "trend" is taken as the big order you see in my trading log. Peoppe call tick noise but something creates that noise and that is what one should exploit.
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  • #19
  • Jun 15, 2018 8:22pm Jun 15, 2018 8:22pm
Quoting IggyMon
{quote} Thank you for leaving a recommendation my friend. To answer your question, hedging would simply kill my already megar profits in pips. Avg win is around 6 pips for the orders larger than 3.00 lots. Once the TP runs and you trail or hedge then you are emotionally attached to the pair that youwould have normally taken profit from and then forgotten about. Trading the way I do keeps me away fro m the market when most are invested both emotionally and financially. The market is created on the tick so why would anyone else accept any other delay....
I meant hedging your loss, not your win!
  • #20
  • Jun 15, 2018 9:51pm Jun 15, 2018 9:51pm
Quoting Nenuser
{quote} I meant hedging your loss, not your win!
Hedging the losses isn't going to benefit my account grow ing
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