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  • #681
  • May 4, 2018 8:51am May 4, 2018 8:51am
Quoting Philip Lee
Hi Guys, Sorry to inform you all that my father passed away yesterday morning and I will not be able to contribute much over the next few days. In the mean time, keep up with the testing and I hope version 4.2.2 really does show improvement over version 4.2.1. as claimed by Albert666. Version 4.2.1 showed an obvious bug in my backtest (or maybe intentionally coded that way???) which only open sell orders although I have turned both buy and hybrid mode on. I gave up back testing it after a few attempts. Swingman, as to your two questions, I am not...
Philip,

My sincere condolences to you and your family.
  • #682
  • May 4, 2018 10:44am May 4, 2018 10:44am
Quoting chrisdk2017
{quote} 8800 drawdown in my backtest.
got draw down to 18% by changing trading times, so asia open to london close.
  • #683
  • May 4, 2018 1:57pm May 4, 2018 1:57pm
Quoting Philip Lee
Hi Guys, Sorry to inform you all that my father passed away yesterday morning and I will not be able to contribute much over the next few days. In the mean time, keep up with the testing and I hope version 4.2.2 really does show improvement over version 4.2.1. as claimed by Albert666. Version 4.2.1 showed an obvious bug in my backtest (or maybe intentionally coded that way???) which only open sell orders although I have turned both buy and hybrid mode on. I gave up back testing it after a few attempts. Swingman, as to your two questions, I am not...
sorry to hear that , my condolences to you and your family
  • #684
  • May 4, 2018 5:44pm May 4, 2018 5:44pm
Philipp, deeply sorry for your father, have our sincere condolences..
  • #685
  • Edited 6:48am May 5, 2018 6:37am | Edited 6:48am
OK ,so,
I have back tested version 4.2.2 Albert using the "check price position option"
in 3 years various back testing over 1 year periods the ea seems to be much improved ! well done Swingman , great work !

I have noticed something that might help.

One all but one year of testing we had a drawdown of 16-18% (with stoch and price bar disabled gave me best overall results) the other hit 75%. on analyzing i think we can sort this out.

if we have a bunch of sells and buys all open at the same time,we can be in an equity neutral position. But by closing the positive positions 1st we could potentially blow the account if we leave big negative positions on the table before then closing them.
It would make sense to find a way to close the trades in some kind of order so as to preserve the balance and the equity. maybe largest negative followed by largest positive ???

Swingman....... would it be possible to add or change the take profit to pips ? this would allow us to test the potential of your "Money management" feature. That way profit would increase with lot size.
What do you think ?
  • #686
  • May 5, 2018 7:40am May 5, 2018 7:40am
Was thinking along the same lines, as an off the cuff, say the first level open a multiple of say, 5, next 4 and so on.. so the reverse would be true in order to cover opposite positions, sure the mm would be able to work this one out, don't forget off the cuff, D
I don't need to be good at the game, only good enough to beat my opponent,
  • #687
  • May 5, 2018 11:00am May 5, 2018 11:00am
Quoting nihilist23uk
...But by closing the positive positions 1st we could potentially blow the account if we leave big negative positions on the table before then closing them. It would make sense to find a way to close the trades in some kind of order so as to preserve the balance and the equity. maybe largest negative followed by largest positive ???
The idea may be good, but not in the spirit of Philip


Swingman....... would it be possible to add or change the take profit to pips ? this would allow us to test the potential of your "Money management"...
I will do that as soon as possible
  • #688
  • May 5, 2018 11:01am May 5, 2018 11:01am
Quoting detector
Was thinking along the same lines, as an off the cuff, say the first level open a multiple of say, 5, next 4 and so on.. so the reverse would be true in order to cover opposite positions, sure the mm would be able to work this one out, don't forget off the cuff, D
The idea may be good, but not in the spirit of Philip...!
  • #689
  • May 5, 2018 11:06am May 5, 2018 11:06am
Quoting Philip Lee
Hi Guys, Sorry to inform you all that my father passed away yesterday morning and I will not be able to contribute much over the next few days. In the mean time, keep up with the testing and I hope version 4.2.2 really does show improvement over version 4.2.1. as claimed by Albert666. Version 4.2.1 showed an obvious bug in my backtest (or maybe intentionally coded that way???) which only open sell orders although I have turned both buy and hybrid mode on. I gave up back testing it after a few attempts. Swingman, as to your two questions, I am not...
Very sorry to read this. My best wishes to you and your family!
  • #690
  • May 5, 2018 11:17am May 5, 2018 11:17am
Quoting SwingMan
{quote} I will do that as soon as possible
Hi Swingman,
Im thinking in line with Philips strategy so please dont miss understand me. We keep the same strategy exactly.
so we still close the whole basket of trades once take profit is reached (exactly as we now have it ) but we just close the whole lot down in a specific order so equity does not take a plunge.

Hope that makes sense.
  • #691
  • May 5, 2018 12:45pm May 5, 2018 12:45pm
Quoting nihilist23uk
{quote} Hi Swingman, Im thinking in line with Philips strategy so please dont miss understand me. We keep the same strategy exactly. so we still close the whole basket of trades once take profit is reached (exactly as we now have it ) but we just close the whole lot down in a specific order so equity does not take a plunge. Hope that makes sense.
You may be right, but you would have to program and test.
Why not the other way around - start with 1 lot and then increase? Googel after "Roulette Trader" System.

What I intend to do first would be to test the idea of Voldemar, it seems very stable to me.
  • #692
  • May 6, 2018 3:58pm May 6, 2018 3:58pm
Quoting SwingMan
{quote} You may be right, but you would have to program and test. Why not the other way around - start with 1 lot and then increase? Googel after "Roulette Trader" System. What I intend to do first would be to test the idea of Voldemar, it seems very stable to me.
Thanks Swingman,reading trough thread now.
  • #693
  • May 6, 2018 4:09pm May 6, 2018 4:09pm
Quoting SwingMan
{quote} You may be right, but you would have to program and test. Why not the other way around - start with 1 lot and then increase? Googel after "Roulette Trader" System. What I intend to do first would be to test the idea of Voldemar, it seems very stable to me.
I think a backward step, if you watch formation of trades, just my opinion, D
I don't need to be good at the game, only good enough to beat my opponent,
  • #694
  • May 7, 2018 5:05am May 7, 2018 5:05am
New version smForexRM EA_v5.1

I have now tried to better implement Philips rules from #Post 42, and I hope that the version now works properly.

Before doing any detailed baking tests, check that the rules have been programmed correctly.
You should only check (2-3) individual trades. One should only check buyer rules, then only seller rules, because it can always happen to me to make mistakes.

I have additionally considered a MovingAverage as filter for the start of a trades cycle.
You can also use more than 2 pending orders.
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  • #695
  • May 7, 2018 8:19am May 7, 2018 8:19am
Thanks Swingman. Looking forward to testing them.
  • #696
  • May 7, 2018 10:20am May 7, 2018 10:20am
I do not know what I'm wrong with, but my test went like this:
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  • #697
  • May 7, 2018 11:11am May 7, 2018 11:11am
Quoting Eve55
I do not know what I'm wrong with, but my test went like this: {image}
try using it on the recommended pair and try tweaking the settings then share your holy grail setup.
its a new ea so your one of the 1st ones to test it.
  • #698
  • May 7, 2018 12:22pm May 7, 2018 12:22pm
Quoting Philip Lee
Hi Guys, Sorry to inform you all that my father passed away yesterday morning and I will not be able to contribute much over the next few days. In the mean time, keep up with the testing and I hope version 4.2.2 really does show improvement over version 4.2.1. as claimed by Albert666. Version 4.2.1 showed an obvious bug in my backtest (or maybe intentionally coded that way???) which only open sell orders although I have turned both buy and hybrid mode on. I gave up back testing it after a few attempts. Swingman, as to your two questions, I am not...
Just read your post Phillip,condolences to you and you family at this sad time.
  • #699
  • May 7, 2018 1:20pm May 7, 2018 1:20pm
Quoting SwingMan
New version smForexRM EA_v5.1 I have now tried to better implement Philips rules from #Post 42, and I hope that the version now works properly. Before doing any detailed baking tests, check that the rules have been programmed correctly. You should only check (2-3) individual trades. One should only check buyer rules, then only seller rules, because it can always happen to me to make mistakes. I have additionally considered a MovingAverage as filter for the start of a trades cycle. You can also use more than 2 pending orders. {file} {file} {file}...
Hi Swingman,
Running some test now,just noticed the max trades on the hybrid mode doesn't appear to be working.
Will post results later but so far so good.
  • #700
  • May 7, 2018 2:32pm May 7, 2018 2:32pm
Quoting nihilist23uk
...Hi Swingman, Running some test now,just noticed the max trades on the hybrid mode doesn't appear to be working. Will post results later but so far so good.
You are partly right ...
The program does not send any new orders, but old pending orders still exist and are sometimes activated, so the MaxTrades can be exceeded.

You can delete pending orders, OK. But in hybrid mode, what should you delete? - Buyer or Seller pending orders?
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