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Post 1 spells out what information is acceptable and what is not.

I notice you stubbornly rejected my request (Post # 596) to delete your Post #595 !!

I will give you 2 more days in which to provide an apology posted to this thread.

Failing that I see no choice other than to sit you on the side lines for some considerable length of time.

I trust you will make the right decision.

Good trading,

Masterrmind............

a) I am not 24/24 connected on FX and on this thread
b) I had not seen your previous "request"
c) I do not care about what you like or not and about your "threats". I do not submit to "threats"
d) I do not know if I am "stubborn" or not. It is very possible.
But I am almost 100 % certain you are.
e) Why ? Because Gann told us we have to use together the Vertical Lines, the Diagonal Lines and the Horizontal Lines. Gann told us too that the Horizontal Lines are the least efficient. That is the one Murrey use with its so-called MML's.

Murrey theoretically showed us the "Speed Angles"(Diagonal Lines) but nobody, you included , uses them.

Murrey shows us a sub-product of the Vertical Lines with the Circles of Conflict, but nobody uses them (me included anyway not for trading uses)

As for MA's you do not like . It is your right. Anyway the 3 MA's used are closely related to the Gann (Murrey) Octave Methodology because the Amplitude of the Envelope 256 Time Units is equal to One Operative Octave (your Octave Gap) and the Amplitude of the Envelope 128 and 32 Time Units are subharmonics (successive division by 2 ) of the said Octave.

The Methodology is strictly the same for Horizontal Lines, Vertical Lines, Diagonal Lines and Curved Lines. Evey kind of "Lines" has its interest for Analysis and / or Trading.

The combination of ALL lines is very powerful. It is always better to walk with 2 legs.

Generally I do not participate on threads, whatever the subject, beginning by a serie of "interdictions" whatever they are because it is not my conception of a forum and of a thread.

I made an exception for your thread because it is one of the rare one elaborating something which could reveal itself of interest concerning "trading with Murrey" which I use since 1998

Allow me to respond to your post, after which I will address the 'stubborness' in your failure to remove an unwanted post.

1. Read this thread before you interact (or post unwanted and unnecessary material) as it makes sense to do so since its both logical and polite.

2. My intention with the MTTTM system is to 'dumb it down' somewhat and focus mainly on the MML levels as calculated by the MML indicator. Post 1 does a reasonable enough job of outlining the MTTTM trading strategy and how it is to be applied namely as a simple enough method that any person can trade. Keeping things simple was my plan in teaching the method here not to get involved in a full on Gann and Murrey discussion.

3. I am more than qualified to engage in a deep debate about Gann trading methodologies but less so with Murrey although I understand his methods quite extensively but must say that I am more of a Gann trader (although I have modernised the approach considerably) than a Murrey trader whether you see them as similar or not, I do not! If I were to engage in a Gann discussion I would open it in the trading discussion section and not in the trading system section.

4. Gann trading is far more discretionary whilst the MTTTM approach is far more mechanical in its application (at least thus far) as this makes it easier to apply for newer and intermediate traders alike.

5. There was no initial plan to address the Gann concepts in such a basic trading system here as its highly complex and takes years to understand.

6. I certainly do use Gann angles in my own private trading (have done for decades) among many other trading factors so you are not telling me anything new.

7. Since most traders here use the MT4 platform it was pointless teaching traders about Gann angles. The MT4 platform is not the right drawing platform to produce 'reasonably accurate' angles of price in time. It is far too inaccurate in its standard format.

8. Yes Gann outlines the VHD lines but yet you choose to add in MA's with pointless significance (your choice but wrong direction IMHO).

9. Murrey on the other hand introduced a 'magical' start date for the trading frame which is a mystery to everyone every year except Murrey. Quite a joke in my opinion and arguably a tactic for maintaining some commercial leverage (if you don't pay the bucks to upgrade the Murrey software each year you don't get the 'magical' new start date).

10. I do not apply the Murrey trading method here nor shall I ever nor would I want too as it is full of holes. I use the 13 horizontal lines as calculated by the MML indicator available via Post 1 and that is all (certainly no useless lagging MA's applied). The rest is a combination of spreading the risk over multiple triangulated pairs and applying a strict Reward to Risk ratio of 4 to 1, a SL in the range [ 1 <= SL <= 2 octaves ] and some solid trade and risk management techniques and a few other techniques.

Now onto the more pressing issue:

At least you made an effort to post here but no apology so that's very disappointing.

A thread Op on FF may set guidelines and rules as I have done.

Post 1 clearly outlines the rules at the top of that post and new comers to a thread typically (and should always) at least read Post 1 in its entirety.

You clearly did not because if you did you would have noticed that several indicators are banned, one of which is the MA.

Your chart is full of 'confusing' and irrelevant MAs all over the place and your 'angles' are likely to be completely wrong.

I asked you very politely to remove your post but you refused.

That is your choice.

Nevertheless, I now view your intent as disruptive to the smooth flowing content of this thread and will ban you from taking any further part in any of my threads.

I do not intend to persue you any further since clearly you do not understand the very basics of common courtesy.

"parisboy !" ............ enjoy your time on the sidelines.

ps. If you asked me to delete a post from your thread you would see a very prompt response on my part and a rapid post removal.

Masterrmind............

The Lot_Size-MTTTM indicator has had a few minor additions coded in namely the choice of color for the Octive Gap which makes awareness slightly better because now both Octive Gaps can be compared on the 2 indicators.

I have coded in multiple functionality to the Murrey_Math1-MTTTM indicator.
Several new parameters allow the following adjustments:
1. MML horizontal lines made adjustable so the start and end times can be easily modified;
2. MML Vertical line with multiple options (color, size, style and extended) that caps off the end of the preferred MML Grid (far left side).
3. Turning on full length lines or shortening them as desired;
4. Showing full MML line text or a "mini" version -2/8 through to +2/8 with no added text with the option to turn it on or turn it off;
5. Functionality to shift the MML line text in the horizontal direction;

Any bugs let me know.

Although its possible that the indicators in MT4 will continue to have minor adjustments and fixes coded in, I must say that my main focus is on coding up a full MT5 indicator set including an MT5 EA (currently well under way) for the MTTTM trading system.

Plenty more to come in the near future !

Masterrmind............

EURUSD

Winning trade [closed out in profit manually]

+2.4%

Price bouncing around the 1.20 handle, time to get out !

Masterrmind.............

EURAUD

Winning trade [closed out manually]

+2.2%

Missed TP but the slimmest of margins, slight bounce back to the upside, time to get out !

Masterrmind.............

Sitting on 2 pending orders (no running trades).

1 Buy Stop on EURCAD (about 160 pips away from triggering) and

1 Sell Stop on CADCHF (about 100 pips away from triggering).

I will let these 2 pending orders run through the night and then re-assess tomorrow.

At this stage its looking very likely that I will delete the 2 orders in readiness for the next TS Order 3.

Masterrmind............

Pending orders have now been deleted.

A summary will be posted next followed by entries into the next TS Order 3 (which will occur today).

Masterrmind............

Summary of TS Order 3-#2-S7 (the 7th setup)

TS Order 3-#2-S7

TS1: EURUSD + GBPUSD = EURGBP
TS2: AUDCAD + EURCAD = EURAUD
TS3: GBPCAD + CADCHF = GBPCHF

7 trades opened
2 pending orders [CADCHF and EURCAD] did not trigger.

Total setup risk was 9% (1% risk per trade over a possible 9 entries) .
7 trades from 9 triggered so actual risk was less than maximum.

3 winners @ 4.1%, 2.4% and 2.2%.
4 losers @ -1.0%, -1.1%, -1.0% and -1.0%.

Net Cycle (Gain/Loss) = (4.1 + 2.4 + 2.2)% - (1.0 + 1.1 + 1.0 + 1.0)% = 8.7% - 4.1% = +4.6% (approx).

A net winning cycle of US$ 540.40 causes the account balance to increase which now stands at $12 301.12

+23% gain on the account.

Masterrmind............

The following TS Order 3 will have the following risk profile.

Risk per Trade will be 1.2% (increased by a step size of 0.2% since previous TS Order 3 was net positive)
SL will be 1.5*Octive Gap

Masterrmind.............

TS Order 3-#2-S8

TS1: EURUSD + GBPUSD = EURGBP
TS2: AUDCAD + EURCAD = EURAUD
TS3: GBPCAD + CADCHF = GBPCHF

Risk per Trade set at 1.2%.
SL set at 1.5*OctaveGap

Note: Risk Per Trade will remain unchanged at 1% due to not updating the parameter value !

Masterrmind............

TS Order 3-#2-S8

Entries are as follows:

EURUSD

GBPUSD

EURGBP

AUDCAD

EURCAD

EURAUD

GBPCAD

CADCHF

GBPCHF

Masterrmind............

EURUSD

Loss trade

-1.0%

Masterrmind.............

EURCAD

Loss trade

-1.0%

Masterrmind.............

EURAUD

Loss trade

-1.0%

Masterrmind...........

GBPCHF

Loss trade

-1.0%

Masterrmind.............

AUDCAD

Loss trade

-1.0%

Masterrmind...............

Masterrmind FF as denied me access to your other thread, have you banned me

Problem sorted up and running again

No certainly have not banned you OAPDave !

Masterrmind............