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  • #6,121
  • Apr 18, 2018 3:07pm Apr 18, 2018 3:07pm
Quoting T4i
hello peeps, EURAUD Idea @Akt and other seniors, comments are welcomed. {image}
hello T4I,
tell me please:
1. w sz not fresh is still valid or not?
2.what is the trend on d1 ?
thank you!
  • #6,122
  • Apr 18, 2018 3:22pm Apr 18, 2018 3:22pm
Quoting T4i
hello peeps, EURAUD Idea @Akt and other seniors, comments are welcomed. {image}
Hello T4i
Lower zones have a higher probability. Remains to be seen if prices will get there

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,123
  • Apr 18, 2018 3:27pm Apr 18, 2018 3:27pm
Quoting Autokon
{quote} hello T4I, tell me please: 1. w sz not fresh is still valid or not? 2.what is the trend on d1 ? thank you!
Hello Autokon.
On the EURAUD....

Best wishes
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  • #6,124
  • Apr 18, 2018 3:32pm Apr 18, 2018 3:32pm
Quoting mike.noname
{quote} Hello foxtrader16, thanks for pointing out on what you have based your decision. As I said in my first post in this thread, I will try to post some top down analysis. Attached you will find the analysis for GBP/USD. My questions about the charts can be found on the charts. I am a little bit confused about the entry, because for me all charts are "saying" long. But on the h4 charts is saying "short" (wait for price to reach supply zone). What do you think about the charts and entry? Edit:I think the R:R ratio would stop me to take a trade,...
Hello mike.noname.
I don't believe we've met
Welcome to T.I.O.F

On the GBPUSD...some thoughts to share

best wishes
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  • #6,125
  • Apr 18, 2018 3:42pm Apr 18, 2018 3:42pm
Quoting JustyJust
Hi AKT, i have a question about this chart. Its EURJPY 1 hour. When this sort of thing is happening it confuses me. We have a supply from feb 21st that is now tapped 3 times. Inside this supply we had a supply created 16th april which was rejected. My question is which supply is valid? Do we still work off the blue one thats tapped 3 times now or just delete it and use a fresh one higher up the chart? Is the newest one valid as a fresh 1 hour zone even though it is inside that blue zone tapped 3 times? Im using 1hr /15m /5m as my map {image}
Hello JustyJust
Good to meet you and Welcome to T.I.O.F

On the EURJPY Chart you shared, When prices reach big picture zones, new smaller time frame zones will be formed.
Please see the chart below

best wishes
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  • #6,126
  • Apr 18, 2018 3:57pm Apr 18, 2018 3:57pm
Quoting T4i
hello peeps, EURAUD Idea @Akt and other seniors, comments are welcomed. {image}
Hello T4i,
I am not a senior or pro trader, nevertheless I feel free to post my opinion about EURAUD.

Probably, I would look for a short entry oppportunity despite supply zone did not take out a demand zone (please see attached chart). But please don't give too much about my opinion, as there might be a lot of mistakes in the analysis. Keep in mind I am new to supply / demand trading.

Thank you, Greetings Mike
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  • #6,127
  • Apr 18, 2018 4:16pm Apr 18, 2018 4:16pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello mike.noname. I don't believe we've met Welcome to T.I.O.F On the GBPUSD...some thoughts to share best wishes{image}
Hello Akt,

thank your clearifying my thoughts. Yes, I am new to this very valuable thread and the method - so a nice "Hello" to all. Besides learning from you and other experienced traders, I hope I am also able to contribute to keep this thread alive and interesting.

Thank you, Greetings Mike
  • #6,128
  • Edited 8:27pm Apr 18, 2018 8:00pm | Edited 8:27pm
Quoting mike.noname
{quote} Hello foxtrader16, thanks for pointing out on what you have based your decision. As I said in my first post in this thread, I will try to post some top down analysis. Attached you will find the analysis for GBP/USD. My questions about the charts can be found on the charts. I am a little bit confused about the entry, because for me all charts are "saying" long. But on the h4 charts is saying "short" (wait for price to reach supply zone). What do you think about the charts and entry? Edit:I think the R:R ratio would stop me to take a trade,...
Hi Mike

IMO there is a W1 SZ though a weak one.
However, for a more stronger SZ you will have to look above.

This SZ is quite large and momentum is still up.
I would not go long. I will look for weakness and confirmation if I have to go short.

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Thanks
Live life king size !
  • #6,129
  • Apr 19, 2018 12:35am Apr 19, 2018 12:35am
I also got GBPUSD on my watchlist.

*trying something new regarding the colour coded zones :-)


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  • #6,130
  • Apr 19, 2018 1:12am Apr 19, 2018 1:12am
Quoting mike.noname
{quote} Hello T4i, I am not a senior or pro trader, nevertheless I feel free to post my opinion about EURAUD. Probably, I would look for a short entry oppportunity despite supply zone did not take out a demand zone (please see attached chart). But please don't give too much about my opinion, as there might be a lot of mistakes in the analysis. Keep in mind I am new to supply / demand trading. Thank you, Greetings Mike {image}
Hi mike.noname,

Its always a good idea to share your analysis with the community because only then someone can help you and you also learn faster :-). Regarding the EURAUD I would wait and look for long opportunities instead of short (my opinion) since the weekly is in a uptrend.

what is your time frame sequence? that would be important. for me, I am using W-D-4hr (but sometimes I go to D-4hr-1hr which I need to be more consistent to use W-D-4hr). what I have learned is that for ex. when you use W-D-4hr sequence you would want wait until price reaches the weekly time frame and then go to your entry time frame (4hr) and look for evidence to enter. here you have two options; confirmation (the conservative approach) or you set a limit order on the entry zone (aggressive approach).

I am still working on my craft.
I have a trading plan with all the important information in it from confirmation entries, quality of zones etc. and this helps me a lot.

don't give up and I wish you all the best on your journey :-).
"Fall in love with the process and the results will follow" - Bradley Whitf
  • #6,131
  • Apr 19, 2018 1:13am Apr 19, 2018 1:13am
Hello

Please have a quick look at GJ with W-D-240 sequence.

What I concern is the formation of a trend line in H4.

As always, your replies and opinions are appreciated and welcomed.

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  • #6,132
  • Edited 1:58am Apr 19, 2018 1:40am | Edited 1:58am
Quoting thiha
Hello Please have a quick look at GJ with W-D-240 sequence. What I concern is the formation of a trend line in H4. As always, your replies and opinions are appreciated and welcomed. {image} {image}

here is my outlook as well..

the only difference is that I drew my 4hr trend line different (down momentum)

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  • #6,133
  • Apr 19, 2018 1:48am Apr 19, 2018 1:48am
Quoting T4i
{quote} here is my outlook as well.. the only difference is that I drew my 4hr trend line different (down momentum) {image}
That's it. Your trend line in 4hr chart makes more sense than mine. Thanks for correcting.
  • #6,134
  • Apr 19, 2018 7:46am Apr 19, 2018 7:46am
Quoting T4i
{quote} here is my outlook as well.. the only difference is that I drew my 4hr trend line different (down momentum) {image} EDIT Update {image}
Hi T4i

The only observation I have to make is that the H4 is out of alignment with your HTF which is D1.
I would wait till D1 shows weakness and there is a break in momentum.

Wait and watch is what I will advise.

Cheers
Live life king size !
  • #6,135
  • Apr 19, 2018 9:27am Apr 19, 2018 9:27am
Quoting foxtrader16
{quote} Hi T4i The only observation I have to make is that the H4 is out of alignment with your HTF which is D1. I would wait till D1 shows weakness and there is a break in momentum. Wait and watch is what I will advise. Cheers
Hi Foxtrader16,

thanks for your reply. hmm then I am getting it wrong.

Thiha was right then? @Thiha sorry if I misled you.
"Fall in love with the process and the results will follow" - Bradley Whitf
  • #6,136
  • Apr 19, 2018 1:36pm Apr 19, 2018 1:36pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Autokon. On the EURAUD.... Best wishes{image}
hello AKT,
thank you for feedback !
  • #6,137
  • Apr 19, 2018 2:39pm Apr 19, 2018 2:39pm
good evening everyone,

may I ask what are your rules regarding stop loss placement?

do you use ATR or set pips let day 10pips away from zone?

I hope I am not getting on everybody's nerves with my questions and charts
"Fall in love with the process and the results will follow" - Bradley Whitf
  • #6,138
  • Apr 20, 2018 9:26am Apr 20, 2018 9:26am
currently in this trade.

should of been better to wait for confirmation, right?

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  • #6,139
  • Apr 20, 2018 12:53pm Apr 20, 2018 12:53pm
Quoting T4i
currently in this trade. should of been better to wait for confirmation, right? {image}
Hello T4i

Probably, given the scenario on the big picture with the weekly still moving to the downside

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #6,140
  • Apr 20, 2018 12:57pm Apr 20, 2018 12:57pm
Quoting T4i
good evening everyone, may I ask what are your rules regarding stop loss placement? do you use ATR or set pips let day 10pips away from zone? I hope I am not getting on everybody's nerves with my questions and charts
Hello T4i

Not at all, T.I.O.F as you know is for charts and questions

You know my rules already.
I set stops based on structure, volatility and the zones.
There is no single way that is "the way", never is.
I know supply and demand traders who use what are called fixed stops like you describe, others use a percentage of the size of the zone etc.
Once the trader chooses one, he/she should work with it for a while to see how things go and then tweak accordingly

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
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