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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited Mar 14, 2018 3:26pm Mar 10, 2018 8:40pm | Edited Mar 14, 2018 3:26pm
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
"نهاية العِلم"
It is our pleasure to announce the "THE END OF SCIENCE" in the FIELD of FOREX TRADING STRATEGIES.
Through this interactive trading thread, minds will be engineered in a way that guarantee "DESTRUCTION" of brokerage firms.
let us consider this thread a new era in FOREX markets, a new revolution in trading style, but through simple ideas!
No single creature on earth planet can refute against "COMMON SENSE"
it is beyond humanity ability to stop Sun shining!
Past: sad trading stories, blood shed, fears, souls broken, children crying! all the time crying!!
wake up! all that will not bring bout the apocalypse!

Here we will present three simple ideas! all of them can not be disproved when trading.
Present:
1) daily: Recovery Zone without multiples(with diversification)
2) weekly: n-degree of overbought/oversold, n>=4
3) monthly: very sharp channels
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follow out!! NO MORE GAMBLING!! NO MORE DIRECTION PRESUMPTIONS!! NO MORE SCIENCE!
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  • #2
  • Mar 10, 2018 8:54pm Mar 10, 2018 8:54pm
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1) daily: Recovery Zone without multiples(with diversification)
Simplified example as a preface:
Roughly say EURCAD recovery zone boundaries with difference 10 pips are at 1.4410 and 1.4420
buy at 1.4420
sell at 1.4410
if any one is executed other must be closed with loss of 10 pips.

at some point of time, pair will go in one direction.
if that happen after 7 "operations" the closed loss is 10*(n-1)=10*(7-1)=60 pips.
-1: is the last profiting open position, it is excluded from "Loss Equation"

assume your balance is 10,000 USD.
First lot=0.1 lot, therefore any operation lot will be 0.10 lot (no stupid damaging multiples)
we will use "small lot tips" instead of multiples.

tips mean: small added amount of lots to compensate for losses.

to be stated clearly: tips for loss compensation, not for profits.

follow,
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  • #3
  • Mar 10, 2018 9:07pm Mar 10, 2018 9:07pm
to complete above example, our target is 200 pips:
assume the flowing scenario:
n=1) 01:17:23 -- 0.10 lot - buy at 1.4420
n=2) 02:33:47 -- 0.10 lot - sell at 1.4410 (#1 closed at loss of 10 pips)
n=3) 05:43:11 -- 0.10 lot - buy at 1.4420 (#2 closed at loss of 10 pips)
n=4) 09:36:27 -- 0.10 lot - sell at 1.4410 (#3 closed at loss of 10 pips)
n=5) 11:13:41 -- 0.10 lot - buy at 1.4420 (#4 closed at loss of 10 pips)
n=6) 15:23:46 -- 0.10 lot - sell at 1.4410 (#5 closed at loss of 10 pips)
n=7) 18:53:51 -- 0.10 lot - buy at 1.4420 (#6 closed at loss of 10 pips)

if all are at 0.1 lot, and the last one get successful, your profit = 200 - 60 = 140 pips! not 200 pips.
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  • #4
  • Mar 10, 2018 9:29pm Mar 10, 2018 9:29pm
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if all are at 0.1 lot, and the last one get successful, your profit = 200 - 60 = 140 pips! not 200 pips.

Loss 60 pips,
so we repeat previous example, to add "lot tips"

n=1) 01:17:23 -- 0.10 lot - buy at 1.4420
n=2) 02:33:47 -- 0.11 lot - sell at 1.4410 (#1 closed at loss of 10 pips)
n=3) 05:43:11 -- 0.11 lot - buy at 1.4420 (#2 closed at loss of 10 pips)
n=4) 09:36:27 -- 0.12 lot - sell at 1.4410 (#3 closed at loss of 10 pips)
n=5) 11:13:41 -- 0.12 lot - buy at 1.4420 (#4 closed at loss of 10 pips)
n=6) 15:23:46 -- 0.13 lot - sell at 1.4410 (#5 closed at loss of 10 pips)
n=7) 18:53:51 -- 0.13 lot - buy at 1.4420 (#6 closed at loss of 10 pips)

what is the accumulative profit if the last position end successfully on the base of 0.10 lot???
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  • #5
  • Mar 10, 2018 9:31pm Mar 10, 2018 9:31pm
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n=7) 18:53:51 -- 0.13 lot - buy at 1.4420 (#6 closed at loss of 10 pips)
be careful this is not 0.13 lot but it is 0.10+0.03 lot.

here we differentiate between 0.13 and 0.10 + 0.03

they add two numbers. we do the opposite, we split the number!
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  • #6
  • Mar 11, 2018 12:01am Mar 11, 2018 12:01am
It makes sense. What if the target optional. Permanent target and percentage target base on the loss that occured. Maybe we'll be much hit target finished and more collect pips on the basket at the time cycle.
  • #7
  • Mar 11, 2018 6:10am Mar 11, 2018 6:10am
I saw a Youtube clip on grid trading forex showing something which I think was similar (though I don't fully understand what you are saying).

So, as long as price remains between 1.4420 and 1.4410, you're continually paying out losses while waiting for a break-out.

Why not just wait for the break-out with a buy order above 1.4420 and a sell order below 1.4410?
  • #8
  • Mar 11, 2018 8:04am Mar 11, 2018 8:04am
Quoting tomorton
I saw a Youtube clip on grid trading forex showing something which I think was similar (though I don't fully understand what you are saying). So, as long as price remains between 1.4420 and 1.4410, you're continually paying out losses while waiting for a break-out. Why not just wait for the break-out with a buy order above 1.4420 and a sell order below 1.4410?
1) web open for all--consider it challenge. Recovary-zone is everywhere!! but all fail. here recovery-zone without multiples.
2) who told you in advance that a break out happen??
3) why you assume 1.4420 and 1.4410 are not at breaking points??
it is not secret to say that n value should be the minimalist possible. so it should be breaking point. use your common sense.
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  • #9
  • Mar 11, 2018 8:11am Mar 11, 2018 8:11am
Quoting nattsir
It makes sense. What if the target optional. Permanent target and percentage target base on the loss that occured. Maybe we'll be much hit target finished and more collect pips on the basket at the time cycle.
good question.

think twice: the target should not be optional. it must be a swing. otherwise we will behave like others! repeat their melancholic stories!
and it should be applied for 28 pairs at once.

forget past history, i will show a case in future.

Here we remedy the demerits of ll existing recovery zone concepts!
1) we cancel multiples as a "core concept" --much less risk.(multiples are fatal process)
2) we speak in the language of swing (trend)
3) we use "small tips" concept,
4) plus comming
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  • #10
  • Mar 11, 2018 8:19am Mar 11, 2018 8:19am
from math viewpoint, the minimum % target should be (n-1)*step

according to eq:
n shoud be tolerable, step should be as less as possible!

tools used in this interactive trading thread:
1) MAHAL EXPERT (overbough/oversold points)
2) BASEL EXPERT (S/R points)
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  • #11
  • Edited 9:10am Mar 11, 2018 8:28am | Edited 9:10am
short lesson on PROBABILITY:
"simple logic"
you will see n=1, 100% you will see it.
you will see n=2, 95% you will see it.
you will see n=3, 90% you will see it.
100% you will see n=2 before n=3 (common sense)
and if n continue, n probability drop.

now, "theory on n/2" -- n divided by 2. here due to some technical reason "BASEL EXPERT for example" , we put order in one direction.. and other direction is just stop loss.
see ph.

in this case we lessen losses to half n/2 is half of n.
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  • #12
  • Mar 11, 2018 9:13am Mar 11, 2018 9:13am
If you go to less frame: You will see SL takes place 2 times = 20 pips loss (instead of 40 pips)
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  • #13
  • Mar 11, 2018 9:26am Mar 11, 2018 9:26am
THINK: position with target 500 pips == 50 positions with SL=10 pips.

One say: your total your profiting position must be greater than losing ones
We say: This is very ridiculous.

PROOF: position with target 500 pips == 50 positions with SL=10 pips.
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  • #14
  • Edited 3:55pm Mar 11, 2018 3:23pm | Edited 3:55pm
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  • Edited 3:55pm Mar 11, 2018 3:27pm | Edited 3:55pm
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  • #17
  • Mar 11, 2018 5:49pm Mar 11, 2018 5:49pm
Quoting tomorton
As I said earlier, I don't fully understand what you're saying.
I second that.
Perhaps it is a language problem or we are just slow.
  • #18
  • Mar 11, 2018 6:20pm Mar 11, 2018 6:20pm
Brother MSA, Assalam u aalaikum wa rahmatullah,

could you plz explain your strategy/method in an easy/detail way.
May almighty ALLAH give you reward for this, Ameen.
  • #19
  • Mar 11, 2018 6:24pm Mar 11, 2018 6:24pm
Quoting tomorton
as i said earlier, i don't fully understand what you're saying.
Even though i do not ask you or send PM to check "MORMON UNDERSTATING OF MY TOPICS" , but:
no one can enforce you to visit this thread!
you do not understand content here, simply leave it!! You will find low-rank threads that may suite you.
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  • #20
  • Mar 11, 2018 6:29pm Mar 11, 2018 6:29pm
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
Quoting loveandpeace
Brother MSA, Assalam u aalaikum wa rahmatullah, could you plz explain your strategy/method in an easy/detail way. May almighty ALLAH give you reward for this, Ameen.
was explained in simple language with clear detailed example.
post#2, post#3, post#4, are adequate.
next through active trading, we just repeat what was mentioned here.
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