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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 9:50am Jan 25, 2018 9:39am | Edited 9:50am
Hey everyone, I'm starting this threat to discuss Anton Kreil's Professional Forex Trading Masterclass. According to Anton Kreil this is the professional trader's approach to the markets.
He seems to use alot of excel in his trading. He focuses 80% on fundamentals and 20% technicals.

I have the full course but haven't finished it yet, would like to know others who have taken or in the process of studying the course how is your results? Have you been succesful? Has it improved your trading? Does Anton Kreil bring anything new on the table?

I went through Jarrett Davis course but it was not that helpful, he focuses too much on day trading plus his approach is very questionable to me, foxuses too much on news and try to see which bank is hawkish or dovish through the news releases, alot of time I find myself interpreting the news in a different way, plus he day trades mainly, which I don't prefer. I'm not sure if Anron Kreil's material is the same plus some impressive excel skills, but from what I see it looks promising very different from the usual stuff you see on the retail side of trading.
  • #2
  • Jan 25, 2018 10:57am Jan 25, 2018 10:57am
Save the money.
Anton failed at trading and now sells sh*t to suckers.

You can learn every fundamental stuff in a week by yourself, but that doesn't make you automatically a successful trader.
  • #3
  • Jan 25, 2018 11:00am Jan 25, 2018 11:00am
skip fundamentals and go to chapter two; Technical Analysis
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  • #4
  • Jan 25, 2018 11:08am Jan 25, 2018 11:08am
nobody trust fundamentals
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  • #5
  • Jan 25, 2018 11:23am Jan 25, 2018 11:23am
Hello,
demand determines the market, neither lines nor triangles,
To understand this, use level2 or footprint chart, order flow
  • #6
  • Edited 1:21pm Jan 25, 2018 11:39am | Edited 1:21pm
Quoting KingMark
Hey everyone, .........
I haven't looked at Anton's course material, but given that he spent a few years at Goldmans, I suspect he knows a helluva lot more than the average person who posts here on FF.

.......... but I don't want this to sound like an endorsement, especially as I can't see myself buying this product.

As always, it's up to everybody to assess every commercial offering on its own merits, and perform their own due diligence.

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I went through Jarrett Davis course but it was not that helpful, he focuses too much on day trading plus his approach is very questionable to me,
Anyway, no offence, but reading between the lines of your comments, it sounds like you might be looking for a short cut, my experience is that there isn't one.

Personally I wouldn't dismiss FA (https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=10183902#post10183902) too quickly -- but having said that, it takes years of trial and error to become proficient, and ultimately the only person who can bring you to that point is YOU.
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Quoting kette
Hello, demand determines the market, neither lines nor triangles, To understand this, use level2 or footprint chart, order flow
Agreed (https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=10229305#post10229305), footprint/bookmark/OFA charts are a good way to view the market.
  • #7
  • Jan 25, 2018 1:30pm Jan 25, 2018 1:30pm
hallo,

yes,you are absolutely right
  • #8
  • Jan 25, 2018 1:37pm Jan 25, 2018 1:37pm
Quoting hanover
{quote}I haven't looked at Anton's course material, but given that he spent a few years at Goldmans, I suspect he knows a helluva lot more than the average person who posts here on FF. .......... but I don't want this to sound like an endorsement, especially as I can't see myself buying this product. As always, it's up to everybody to assess every commercial offering on its own merits, and perform their own due diligence. {quote}Anyway, no offence, but reading between the lines of your comments, it sounds like you might be looking for a short...
I have listened to all Antone videos on youtube; and watch the BBC drama a while back; and do own the course material on CDs as well.

The videos are fun to watch; and hanover is right; you do get sometimes tidbits here and there; on how Insto life works.

however; KingMark is right; you may not get the juice out of that course; unless you are a 100% fundy; or shall I say 80% fundy and 20% tecky.
  • #9
  • Jan 25, 2018 4:07pm Jan 25, 2018 4:07pm
Thanks for taking the time to reply guys. I have been trying to trade for 5 years now, but haven't found anything that worked.

Now i realize why, mainly its due to that 90-95% of the info found online about trading is crap, yes crap. I don't believe in technical analysis no more and find it a waste of time nor do i see any value in posts found on sites like tradingview, because you can't use price to know what will happen next. You got to know the reason why price is moving and the underlining reasons why its moving. The whole arguement that people use who believe in T.A (mainly retail FX traders) is that T.A. helps them see "patterns" in price that they can exploit and these patterns repeat themselves. To me this sounds more like ignoranace and laziness. There is no scientific proof that this actually is true or can be used as a valid investing/trading strategy that can outperform the market benchmark on a risk-adjusted bases. T.A. is just an illusion that looks like it works when you put it on a chart but in reality it doesnt.

Now in order to know the "why" you got to understand fundamentals, but the problem is the info about fundamentals online on how to conduct an effective analysis is not clear, at least for me. What drives the market?..etc
Some say supply and demand, some say order flow, some say volumes.. see where im going with this?
I'm hoping that Anton Kreil could really explain how to conduct such analysis in a professional way, a concrete strategi approach to the market.
  • #10
  • Jan 25, 2018 4:32pm Jan 25, 2018 4:32pm
Quoting KingMark
Thanks for taking the time to reply guys. I have been trying to trade for 5 years now, but haven't found anything that worked. Now i realize why, mainly its due to that 90-95% of the info found online about trading is crap, yes crap. I don't believe in technical analysis no more and find it a waste of time nor do i see any value in posts found on sites like tradingview, because you can't use price to know what will happen next. You got to know the reason why price is moving and the underlining reasons why its moving. The whole arguement that people...
Just a quick reminder- 99.999% of "guru's" which are selling courses,holygrails and other sh#t have no success in real trading/investing.No matter where they worked previously, it doesn't matter. If somebody want you to pay for knowledge and to know how to apply it the first thing You need to ask is PROOF that they can do it by themselves.The money people are making by trading is way less that what some "guru's" make selling simple things in a good shell.
BTW, your posts seems to have advertising agenda... I will look further and don't be surprised if you will end up in a commercial section.
  • #11
  • Jan 25, 2018 4:46pm Jan 25, 2018 4:46pm
I can see where this is going...

KingMark, it is fine to use any tool that you find useful for your own trading.

I personally use 100% of quantitative, statistics, and technical analysis and it is working for me.

Fundamental analysis did not work for me at all; and I don't even like it.

The trick to get a course from anybody; is to ask for verifiable track record from your educator. otherwise it is all crap. Make sure your educator trades the charts from the left side; and not from the right side (aka hindsight)
  • #12
  • Jan 25, 2018 4:55pm Jan 25, 2018 4:55pm
I have already flattened my account three times
i use tpochart with volume, now i have small successes
  • #13
  • Jan 25, 2018 5:01pm Jan 25, 2018 5:01pm
here a picture
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  • #14
  • Jan 25, 2018 5:03pm Jan 25, 2018 5:03pm
Here is a picture, fxopen where I test everything
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  • #15
  • Jan 25, 2018 5:27pm Jan 25, 2018 5:27pm
Quoting kette
Here is a picture, fxopen where I test everything {image}
Some people are so lazy that start to invent something just to do the simple things... lol
BTW, there isn't real volume data in forex.
  • #16
  • Jan 25, 2018 6:38pm Jan 25, 2018 6:38pm
Quoting kette
here a picture {image}

Is that volume on your charts, tick volume correct?
  • #17
  • Jan 25, 2018 6:48pm Jan 25, 2018 6:48pm
yes
  • #18
  • Jan 25, 2018 6:49pm Jan 25, 2018 6:49pm
Quoting G.Kad
{quote} BTW, your posts seems to have advertising agenda... I will look further and don't be surprised if you will end up in a commercial section.
I have no clue how you jumped into such conclusions and frankly i dont care. If i have such agendas I would have been direct, I have no reason to hide my intentions.
  • #19
  • Jan 25, 2018 6:53pm Jan 25, 2018 6:53pm
live now
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  • #20
  • Jan 25, 2018 6:54pm Jan 25, 2018 6:54pm
Quoting kette
yes
How is your results using tick volume? For how long have you been trading with it if you dont mind answering?

I didnt look into volume much, mainly due to the fact that its not real volume. Some people in it and some don't. I never really made my mind..
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