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  • #21
  • Jun 1, 2017 1:32pm Jun 1, 2017 1:32pm
Quoting alphaomega
{quote} Absolutely, I agree with this! But here is what the "evolution" of Windows looks like: {image}
couldnt see win 9
reliability is one of the most important parameter if u risk your money online and trade from your desk

If I dont see blue screen while I am in a 10 20 lot trading, this is what I need, if you are gamer or wanna fancy srartup screen its up to you
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  • #22
  • Jun 1, 2017 1:41pm Jun 1, 2017 1:41pm
tech is good but till where, so banks are stupid and we are smart only

hould Banks Let Ancient Programming Language COBOL Die from 1959
https://developers.slashdot.org/stor...uage-cobol-die

every extreme is exrteme if i,ts good or bad. nominal tech level should be selected for living


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  • #23
  • Jun 1, 2017 2:31pm Jun 1, 2017 2:31pm
Quoting mr.brown
{quote} if xp crashes you should check your hardware MAINBOARD RAM HD etc.. or installation, I have worked with each of them, including win ME, if you can remember

Hmm, I didnt mention that the problem also ocurred on my work PCs and my colleagues were experiencing the same . And since I did contract work, I was moving from company to company. So the problem affected hundreds of computers that I knew of. Thats just the experience of one person. Its not hard to extrapolate that to millions. Even with a hardware upgrade, the security was crap. Allowing people the same priviledge to executable files as to data was a hackers wet dream.

The proper way to fix software is to fix software and sometimes that involves discarding the old and starting over.
  • #24
  • Jun 22, 2017 5:14am Jun 22, 2017 5:14am
MT5 Mobile Web Platform Releases Depth of Market Feature

The Depth of Market feature will help provide information about liquidity conditions.

Jeff Patterson | Technology (Retail FX) | Wednesday, 21/06/2017|11:33 GMT



MetaQuotes continues to roll out a string of updates, this time releasing a new version of the MetaTrader 5 (MT5) mobile web application, which will enable the ‘Depth of Market’ feature for users. A newly launched iteration of the tool will look to improve visibility of orders on the market, and also cater to brokers in the process.

The London Summit 2017 is coming, get involved!

One of the main advantages of the Depth of Market feature is the provision of relevant information about liquidity conditions. Additionally, the ability to look directly at orders on the market will also be of note for users. Such upgrades to the MT5 mobile version will be helpful for brokers given the ease with which it can be assimilated directly into websites and applications.



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  • #25
  • Jan 17, 2018 9:39am Jan 17, 2018 9:39am
MetaQuotes stops selling MT4 platform licenses

PLATFORMS JANUARY 12, 2018 — BY VALENTINA KIRILOVA

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Forex trading platform developer MetaQuotes just announced that it has stopped selling MetaTrader 4 platform licenses to new customers.

The MetaTrader 4 trading platform was released more than 12 years ago. Its architecture was designed under the limitations of that time, due to which it is no longer possible to implement new features that meet today’s increased requirements of the industry, including brokers’ and traders’ demands.

MetaQuotes ended the development of MetaTrader 4 in early 2015. Now, three years later, the developer decided to discontinue the sales of this software and has stopped selling MetaTrader 4 platform licenses to new customers, including additional servers to existing clients. However, MetaTrader 4 brokers will be able to order additional White Label terminals and receive comprehensive technical support. MetaQuotes will also keep releasing security updates and bug fixes for the said platform.

Additional functions and improvements will only be implemented in MetaTrader 5. The new-generation platform is based on modern architecture and fully supports various functions from the older version (such as hedging and reports on positions). MetaTrader 5 is a high-performance scalable platform which supports operation on multiple markets, including Forex, CFDs, stocks, futures, metals and cryptocurrencies. A large-scale infrastructure comprising of third-party solutions has already formed around MetaTrader 5. Technology companies, such as Fortex, Gold-i, oneZero, PrimeXM and Tools For Brokers among others, have adapted their products to MetaTrader 5 and offer various solutions to help brokers with migrating to the new platform.


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  • #26
  • Jan 18, 2018 8:45am Jan 18, 2018 8:45am
What's new in MetaTrader 5


12 January 2018
MetaTrader 5 Platform Build 1745

MetaTrader 5 build 1745 will be the last platform version supporting Microsoft Windows XP/2003/Vista.

A few months ago, we announced end of support for older versions of operating systems. Windows 2003, Windows Vista and especially Microsoft Windows XP are outdated operating systems. Microsoft ended support for Windows XP three years ago, because potential hardware capabilities could no longer be realized on this system due to technical limitations.
MetaTrader 5 build 1745 and older versions will continue to work on the above operating systems, but will no longer receive updates. Platform installers will not run on these operating systems.

The minimum required operating system version for running MetaTrader 5 is Windows 7. However, we strongly recommend using the 64-bit version of Windows 10.


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  • #27
  • Jan 19, 2018 10:56am Jan 19, 2018 10:56am
Quoting Tsar
What's new in MetaTrader 5 12 January 2018 MetaTrader 5 Platform Build 1745 MetaTrader 5 build 1745 will be the last platform version supporting Microsoft Windows XP/2003/Vista. A few months ago, we announced end of support for older versions of operating systems. Windows 2003, Windows Vista and especially Microsoft Windows XP are outdated operating systems. Microsoft ended support for Windows XP three years ago, because potential hardware capabilities could no longer be realized...
Issues on mt5 on windows 7 are becoming ridiculous - it is a pure lottery if mt5 (or the metaeditor for mq5) will start or not on windows 7
  • #28
  • Edited 5:10pm Jan 21, 2018 4:57pm | Edited 5:10pm
MT4 will still be a loooong time around, in fact it's not imaginable that MT5 will replace it soon as long as it's such a crap. I even see MetaQuote's announcement as good news *for* MT4 as it forces all the cheap bucket shops interested in a quick "buck" out of business. The existing license holders will be happy about this news (guarantied no new competition, MetaQuotes must secretly still appreciate communism ) and their businesses will consolidate. Now that can only be good for the broker landscape as well as for MT4 and its reputation.

There's only one way for MT5 to replace MT4: If MetaQuotes publicly decides to commit suicide, in which case MT4 indeed will cease to exist. They have been stupid enough to ride a dead horse for 8 consecutive years but I doubt they are that stupid. I merely guess they continue selling new licenses under the desk, in secret, for an extra bonus. They already increased prices for new MT4 licenses, now MT5 licenses are only a fraction of their MT4 counterpart. Still, nobody wants to ride a dead horse. Except...
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  • #29
  • Jan 21, 2018 9:32pm Jan 21, 2018 9:32pm
Quoting emmzett
MT4 will still be a loooong time around, in fact it's not imaginable that MT5 will replace it soon as long as it's such a crap. I even see MetaQuote's announcement as good news *for* MT4 as it forces all the cheap bucket shops interested in a quick "buck" out of business. The existing license holders will be happy about this news (guarantied no new competition, MetaQuotes must secretly still appreciate communism ) and their businesses will consolidate. Now that can only be good for the broker landscape as well as for MT4 and its reputation....
I wish more brokers offered mt5
  • #30
  • Jan 22, 2018 3:35am Jan 22, 2018 3:35am
Quoting Nicholishen
{quote} I wish more brokers offered mt5
Nick, I know you as an above average experienced user. Can you tell us why *you* wish so? Is it because - as I know - you prefer OOP over traditional style? As for me I focus in automation and MT5 has always been a no-go as it doesn't feature a usable tester. Without testing automation is doomed from the beginning. MT5 might be an option for manual/discretionary trading. However for manual trading there is nothing essentially new compared to MT4. Instead MetaQuotes put plenty of bad eggs into it, imho intentionally. And that's the main reason for the near zero demand from brokers and retail clients. MQ expected them to be more stupid. So, in essence the failed MT5 project is a result of arrogance, imho. They already prooved they can do much better.

Now - as Mladen notes - there is another important issue. MT5 is much more buggy and unstable than MT4 ever was. Another no-go for all kind of trading.
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  • #31
  • Jan 22, 2018 10:46am Jan 22, 2018 10:46am
Quoting mladen
{quote} Issues on mt5 on windows 7 are becoming ridiculous - it is a pure lottery if mt5 (or the metaeditor for mq5) will start or not on windows 7
Ahh... This is the Wind of Heaven

Windows 7 didn't have an Updates again for Future

Only 6 Days MetaQuotes has updated MT5 Platform to Higher Version : MetaTrader 5 Platform Build 1755


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  • #32
  • Jan 22, 2018 10:50am Jan 22, 2018 10:50am
Quoting emmzett
{quote} Nick, I know you as an above average experienced user. Can you tell us why *you* wish so? Is it because - as I know - you prefer OOP over traditional style? As for me I focus in automation and MT5 has always been a no-go as it doesn't feature a usable tester. Without testing automation is doomed from the beginning. MT5 might be an option for manual/discretionary trading. However for manual trading there is nothing essentially new compared to MT4. Instead MetaQuotes put plenty of bad eggs into it, imho intentionally. And that's the main reason...
Quoting emmzett
MT4 will still be a loooong time around, in fact it's not imaginable that MT5 will replace it soon as long as it's such a crap. I even see MetaQuote's announcement as good news *for* MT4 as it forces all the cheap bucket shops interested in a quick "buck" out of business. The existing license holders will be happy about this news (guarantied no new competition, MetaQuotes must secretly still appreciate communism ) and their businesses will consolidate. Now that can only be good for the broker landscape as well as for MT4 and its reputation....
Agreed with you...


Quoting Nicholishen
{quote} I wish more brokers offered mt5
Because a Cheap Licenses MT5 than MT4 Platform. And the New Brokers didn't have a Choice again


What error happened to 'Signal and Price' between MT4 and MT5 ???


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  • #33
  • Jan 22, 2018 12:42pm Jan 22, 2018 12:42pm
Quoting emmzett
{quote} Nick, I know you as an above average experienced user. Can you tell us why *you* wish so? Is it because - as I know - you prefer OOP over traditional style? As for me I focus in automation and MT5 has always been a no-go as it doesn't feature a usable tester. Without testing automation is doomed from the beginning. MT5 might be an option for manual/discretionary trading. However for manual trading there is nothing essentially new compared to MT4. Instead MetaQuotes put plenty of bad eggs into it, imho intentionally. And that's the main reason...
What do you mean the tester is unusable? IMO the tester is much better, and optimization on the cloud farm is faster than MT4 by a factor of thousands.
  • #34
  • Jan 22, 2018 5:19pm Jan 22, 2018 5:19pm
Quoting emmzett
{quote} Nick, I know you as an above average experienced user. Can you tell us why *you* wish so? Is it because - as I know - you prefer OOP over traditional style? As for me I focus in automation and MT5 has always been a no-go as it doesn't feature a usable tester. Without testing automation is doomed from the beginning. MT5 might be an option for manual/discretionary trading. However for manual trading there is nothing essentially new compared to MT4. Instead MetaQuotes put plenty of bad eggs into it, imho intentionally. And that's the main reason...
Is not perfect but is very stable. Bugs have like all software but thinking in how works MT software normally is quite good
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  • #35
  • Edited 6:58pm Jan 22, 2018 6:42pm | Edited 6:58pm
Quoting Nicholishen
{quote} What do you mean the tester is unusable? IMO the tester is much better, and optimization on the cloud farm is faster than MT4 by a factor of thousands.
Hmm, may be I missed something. Last time I checked the history format in MT5 was still encrypted and locked. A tester without access to prices is in all regard an unusable tester as you have nothing you could test with. I can link Renat's original reasoning on why he decided so. It's still public and ridiculuos at best.

Of course you can use the trusted ~3 months of data provided by your caring broker (in fact this is what Renat wants you to do, why?) but here we leave the ground of serious development/testing. Same is true for using cloud features. Do you know of any TradeStation/NeoTicker/NinjaTrader/MultiCharts/SierraChart/TOS/AmiBroker/F4/Zorro platform user who thinks that cloud testing might help his/her trading results?

My thinking was this is common knowledge for experienced developers/traders. Maybe my assessment was wrong. Sorry.

ps: You don't need to go "cloud" to get optimizations a thousand times faster than MT4/5. Just take Zorro. Again, features to connect to 3rd parties have been available in MT4 tester and are locked/disabled in MT5 tester (DLLs in cloud).
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  • #36
  • Jan 23, 2018 4:35am Jan 23, 2018 4:35am
Hello, everybody!


I have a problem with MT5. While using a broker which uses suffixes for its symbols, it's seem impossible to switch the pair by typing a symbol's name (with suffix)

using Enter quick key. Any solutions to that or walkarounds?
  • #37
  • Last Post: Mar 4, 2018 9:57pm Mar 4, 2018 9:57pm
MetaTrader 4’s imminent discontinuation:
The ambiguity and the fallout researched



“It is almost impossible at present for many brokerages to know whether they will have to completely start from scratch with new MetaTrader 5 platforms and a single server and if so, will this fit within the ideology of the brokerage in terms of product range and marketing. For example, some smaller brokers opt for MetaTrader 4 simply due to its EA compatibility so that they can onboard MAM accounts in Asia.”


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As 2017 gave way to 2018, a milestone event occurred which signaled the imminent end of an era that propelled small retail brokerages and created the highly competitive generic platform environment that exists today.

MetaQuotes, the Cyprus-based software company that produces the MetaTrader 4 retail trading platform, abruptly decided that it would discontinue the ubiquitous trading interface, giving rise to abundant ambiguity as to whether any level of support would be provided to existing brokers, and if so, to what level.

On January 12 this year, MetaQuotes confirmed that the company will stop issuing new licenses to new brokerages, although the MetaTrader 4 platform can continue to be used by existing customers.

Brokers who are already using the software will not be able to expand their operations on the platform, as no new servers will be issued in any capacity.

At the time, FinanceFeeds took the view that whilst white label MetaTrader 4 solutions are regarded as the cheapest and quickest way to enter the retail market, with firms paying subscriptions to a third party provider instead of acquiring a full license from MetaQuotes, this also comes with the downside of less (or no) control over strategic decisions such as spread and products offered, potential conflict of interests as the provider is usually a competitor, and difficulty to scale the operation.



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