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  • #401
  • Jan 15, 2018 11:36am Jan 15, 2018 11:36am
Quoting Fuchur
{quote} At least for GBPUSD small signal is too dangerous for me with Micro, although it is good in BT. Haven't tried with Revo yet. With Micro I will try with higher signal to see if it resembles BT results. There shouldn't be any trading errors anymore thanks to virtual_pending.
Small signal is not feasible to be released just like that, something forced. Unless used fun while looking at market conditions, assisted with On / Off manually.
Focus on normal Signal, to be applied following Pair and broker characteristics, and adjustment with other parameters.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #402
  • Jan 15, 2018 12:21pm Jan 15, 2018 12:21pm
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Small signal is not feasible to be released just like that, something forced. Unless used fun while looking at market conditions, assisted with On / Off manually. Focus on normal Signal, to be applied following Pair and broker characteristics, and adjustment with other parameters.
If it wasn't for GBPUSD, Revo would have made 30% gain today with EURUSD and USDJPY - now it's 0 gain/loss.

Anyway, this is a GREAT result, I just need to optimize it for GBPUSD or use only one pair at a time.

Let's see if Micro can be tweaked for the same good performance.
  • #403
  • Jan 15, 2018 3:45pm Jan 15, 2018 3:45pm
Hello to everyone, today I started FT in demo with 3 different brokers and depending the results I will test also in real accounts. Just a little help please, I saw good results results at both DEMO and REAL accounts. Did everybody use default settings with different signal for EU,UJ,EG? Or is there someone who used totally different settings with profit? Thanks
  • #404
  • Jan 15, 2018 3:51pm Jan 15, 2018 3:51pm
Quoting ectaco
Hello to everyone, today I started FT in demo with 3 different brokers and depending the results I will test also in real accounts. Just a little help please, I saw good results results at both DEMO and REAL accounts. Did everybody use default settings with different signal for EU,UJ,EG? Or is there someone who used totally different settings with profit? Thanks
Hi ectaco, try standard settings, but I advise you to set "virtual_pending" to true, otherwise it is possible that you get trading errors which can result in loss trades.
  • #405
  • Jan 15, 2018 4:25pm Jan 15, 2018 4:25pm
Quoting Fuchur
{quote} Hi ectaco, try standard settings, but I advise you to set "virtual_pending" to true, otherwise it is possible that you get trading errors which can result in loss trades.
Thanks, I will set it. Right now I test EU,UJ and EG. I removed GU because it seems to have big spread in three brokers I use ( and all 3 are ecn with low spread +comission). Do you advice any other pair to trade or these are good?
  • #406
  • Jan 15, 2018 4:58pm Jan 15, 2018 4:58pm
Quoting ectaco
{quote} Thanks, I will set it. Right now I test EU,UJ and EG. I removed GU because it seems to have big spread in three brokers I use ( and all 3 are ecn with low spread +comission). Do you advice any other pair to trade or these are good?
GU is great in BT, but in FT I had only loss. So I probably won't use it anymore.
The other 2 pairs I am testing are EU and UJ, both of them seem to be profitable. Good luck and tell about your results, as broker and connection speed also influence the outcome.
  • #407
  • Jan 15, 2018 11:40pm Jan 15, 2018 11:40pm
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Hi Sutatong The signal is only one number, the formulation of the calculation results to determine the possibility of reversal or trending power. Thak you
Thank you.
  • #408
  • Jan 16, 2018 12:05am Jan 16, 2018 12:05am
Hi Guys

Setting Parameter adjustment to Pair specification.
Spread and Slippage.

This EA is sensitive to Spread and Slippage.
For example in BT using spreads 0.5 and 0.8 pips, the result is much different.
Each broker may apply different spreads. Like USDCHF at a local broker in my country about 6 pips, on GU stuff about 2.3 pips.

I use Indicator to find out the maximum spreads in two days result like this.
Pair, Normal, Max
EU 0.3 4.2
EG 0.6 25.5
UJ 0.5 3.5
GU 0.6 29.2
GJ 1.2 31.05
UC 0.7 4.2
AU 0.4 3.9

From the data data, to optimized use above average spreads, as benchmark in FT.
It also has not 100 percent represent because in BT spread static and Slippage 0.
Stay careful with parameter adjustments.


Rgds
Mrg
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #409
  • Jan 16, 2018 4:05am Jan 16, 2018 4:05am
Hi Fuchur
There's a good thing about Micro's development.
With the following rules:
1. Triger matching Signal (6 for EU)
2. If the profiit is complete.
3. If Loss, Open Hedging with Lotsize is bigger
4. If profit is 10% close
5. If turned and Loss again, Open Hedging with the second transaction.
5. If Sideways will happen some OP, ending it still profit.
Parameters
Signal 6
Signal Limit 15
Max Open 1 or 2.
Max Open Increment 1 or 2.
TP 100
StopLoss 60
Trailing active False
MM 10%
Profit lock 10 or more, below it 0
Marting Grid 25
Marting Multiplication 99 (tiered)
Marting_OneWay = true
Micro V1.02 can run but there are still bugs for this parameter.

Transactions one by one, the results are stable.
but the key remains Signal Level.

Any idea ?

Next I upload temporary.

Rgds
Mrg
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #410
  • Jan 16, 2018 11:34am Jan 16, 2018 11:34am
From yesterday night I started testing Micro martingale with 3 brokers and 3 pairs EU,EG,UJ. But all brokers (FXchoice, ViproMarkets and Tickmill) show losses. I use default settings with signal 5 for EU and 6 for EG and UJ. Also no errors with journal or expert tab. Is this happening with your accounts too or I am the only one losing?
  • #411
  • Jan 16, 2018 1:03pm Jan 16, 2018 1:03pm
Quoting mrgmrg
Hi Fuchur There's a good thing about Micro's development. With the following rules: 1. Triger matching Signal (6 for EU) 2. If the profiit is complete. 3. If Loss, Open Hedging with Lotsize is bigger 4. If profit is 10% close 5. If turned and Loss again, Open Hedging with the second transaction. 5. If Sideways will happen some OP, ending it still profit. Parameters Signal 6 Signal Limit 15 Max Open 1 or 2. Max Open Increment 1 or 2. TP 100 StopLoss 60 Trailing active False MM 10% Profit lock 10 or more, below it 0 Marting Grid 25 Marting Multiplication...
Thanks margiyono for the settings, looks OK in BT.
I was using signal 0.5 signal limit 3 SL 8 for EU, and it seems to give a constant gain, almost same as in BT.

Will try using your settings later!

Could you please send Revo with signal_limit? From my extremely limited knowledge of MQL4 you would just add "extern" before the parameter, right?
  • #412
  • Jan 16, 2018 1:06pm Jan 16, 2018 1:06pm
Quoting ectaco
From yesterday night I started testing Micro martingale with 3 brokers and 3 pairs EU,EG,UJ. But all brokers (FXchoice, ViproMarkets and Tickmill) show losses. I use default settings with signal 5 for EU and 6 for EG and UJ. Also no errors with journal or expert tab. Is this happening with your accounts too or I am the only one losing?
Today wasn't a good trading day for EU, both Micro and Revo went into loss, but it's also in BT, sometimes drawdown 50%! Just keep it running for a few days.
  • #413
  • Jan 17, 2018 4:57am Jan 17, 2018 4:57am
[quote = Fuchur; 10677873] {quote} Днес не беше добър ден за търговия с ЕС, както Микро, така и Рево загубиха, но това също е в BT, понякога теглене 50%! Просто го запазете за няколко дни. [/ Quote]

Not only today, but obviously there are no good days. The previous week lost 240Euro. A Mrg Revo Power vtr for the period 12.01-17.01.2018 results at 12.45 is negative at the rate of -93.08 $.A test with exactly the same parameters / deflated / the result is mind-boggling at $ +7936.20.The test was made on a real account on which the robot is currently working
My broker's spread is 0.5 for Euro / USD and 10 for Euro/JPN.
I'm sorry margiyono, but obviously this is another disappointment and a lot of halo work. I would have liked it if it was not.apologies for bad English
Good luck
  • #414
  • Jan 17, 2018 5:30am Jan 17, 2018 5:30am
Quoting arteks
[quote = Fuchur; 10677873] {quote} Днес не беше добър ден за търговия с ЕС, както Микро, така и Рево загубиха, но това също е в BT,...
Unfortunately yes, only losing trades on Micro and Revo today as well. Small gains are eaten up by losses, no real gain in contrast to BT.
  • #415
  • Edited 4:34pm Jan 17, 2018 7:11am | Edited 4:34pm
Hi all

First EA with this settings.

https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/s...alperm/2345336

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  • #416
  • Jan 17, 2018 9:02pm Jan 17, 2018 9:02pm
Hello, all

Thanks for the input.
If willing to find the right setting for FT please.

While I am looking for a solution based on your input.
In time, I'll let you know.

There is already a picture of why at the time FT touched price, on the matter when BT untouched, because the widening of the spread (dynamic) and at the time of Static.


Rgds

mrg
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #417
  • Edited 7:43am Jan 18, 2018 1:50am | Edited 7:43am
Guys
While waiting for the improve Micro Martingale (and Revo), can try the following

Low Profit but my be more stable.

Rule (Default EU Leverage 1: 500)
1. Transactions are only one by one until close by trailing (except floating)
2. If minus of Marting_Grid (25) will be Open Hedging with Lotsize tiered. ===> if it's profit 12% close all.
3. If the second transaction minus 25, OP will be hedging against the second transaction with lotsize tiered ..... etc.
If it's profit 12% close all.

When using MM is larger, use Time frame > 1

Possibly ugly if total OP is more than 6 (Sideways prolonged) although there is good signal, can not OP until all closing.

** With the same parameters can be run for non Hedging by changing:
1. Marting_Multipication = 1.5
2. Marting_OneWay = true

Rgds
Attached File(s)
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margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #418
  • Jan 18, 2018 8:06am Jan 18, 2018 8:06am
Quoting mrgmrg
Guys While waiting for the improve Micro Martingale (and Revo), can try the following Low Profit but my be more stable. Rule (Default EU Leverage 1: 500) 1. Transactions are only one by one until close by trailing (except floating) 2. If minus of Marting_Grid (25) will be Open Hedging with Lotsize tiered. ===> if it's profit 12% close all. 3. If the second transaction minus 25, OP will be hedging against the second transaction with lotsize tiered ..... etc. If it's profit 12% close all. When using MM is larger, use Time frame > 1 Possibly ugly if...
In BT only stable with 3% risk, if set higher it will draw account down, even on higher TF.
  • #419
  • Jan 18, 2018 8:48am Jan 18, 2018 8:48am
Quoting Fuchur
{quote} In BT only stable with 3% risk, if set higher it will draw account down, even on higher TF.
Yes, if MM is raised, if you meet long sideways, will have problems with endurance equity.
If MM is lowered, Stoplos can be raised or Grid raised.
For extreme movements relatively safer.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #420
  • Jan 18, 2018 10:25am Jan 18, 2018 10:25am
mrgmrg,
when I place the EA - Mrg_Micro_Martingale_V1_01 on live account, it gives a message that it works in Demo account only. Have you disabled it??
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