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  • #381
  • Jan 14, 2018 4:35am Jan 14, 2018 4:35am
Correct, temporary name (Vtr=Virtual)

Small signal for normal condition, pretty good.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #382
  • Jan 14, 2018 4:44am Jan 14, 2018 4:44am
Quoting mrgmrg
Correct, temporary name (Vtr=Virtual) Small signal for normal condition, pretty good.
Do you stop small signal EA on news events or do you compensate with another instance of the EA with higher signal?
  • #383
  • Jan 14, 2018 5:17am Jan 14, 2018 5:17am
Quoting Fuchur
{quote} Do you stop small signal EA on news events or do you compensate with another instance of the EA with higher signal?
Not yet in the filter, I just let go to find out how the OP whether the profit / loss has not been checked.
But if normal conditions are still okay.

Maybe if the filter, especially for small signal will be better.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #384
  • Jan 14, 2018 5:38am Jan 14, 2018 5:38am
Quoting Fuchur
{quote} Is Micro strategy in Revo only if I activate the Martingale function (disabled by default)? Will try signal 0.5 on another account. So far, I am quite happy with signal 5, produced some more smaller gains and no errors. :-}
Evveryone talks about accumulation of pips but a system, much like this one, which can sniper small amount of pips is what makes martingale a must use. Assuming that ones trade expectancy is rather high for those "low pip count" position then martingale will not only recover your loss but even allow you to make net profit with negative pips. I for one am very interested in seeing how your project ends up.
The Earth is flat!
  • #385
  • Jan 14, 2018 5:51am Jan 14, 2018 5:51am
Quoting Tfh
{quote} Evveryone talks about accumulation of pips but a system, much like this one, which can sniper small amount of pips is what makes martingale a must use. Assuming that ones trade expectancy is rather high for those "low pip count" position then martingale will not only recover your loss but even allow you to make net profit with negative pips. I for one am very interested in seeing how your project ends up.
You are surely right, but for clarification, in case you missed it: the author has 2 projects, one is the Micro Martingale as in the thread title, the other one is called Revo Power, where the author posted the EA also in this thread.

In the quoted text I was referring to the second project - Revo Power. There the Martingale part is optional. I was trying it in backtest - only with standard settings - and the results were less profit and higher drawdown.

That doesn't necessarily mean that Martingale option in Revo Power is bad per se, maybe with optimized settings you could get a better result. But I didn't test it yet.
  • #386
  • Jan 14, 2018 10:10am Jan 14, 2018 10:10am
Hello guys

V1.02 is already uploaded, The explanation is on page 1.
The following sets have additional parameters marked in red.

Thank you.

Rgds
Mrg
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margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #387
  • Jan 14, 2018 10:47am Jan 14, 2018 10:47am
Quoting mrgmrg
Hello guys V1.02 is already uploaded, The explanation is on page 1. The following sets have additional parameters marked in red. Thank you. Rgds Mrg {image}
Thank you margiyono, looking good in BT, especially with 2 way Martingale and signal_limit filter, let's see how it will perform in FT.

In BT it performs best on GBPUSD, even with Tickdata from TDL.

Thank you very much for sharing!
  • #388
  • Jan 14, 2018 11:13am Jan 14, 2018 11:13am
Quoting Fuchur
{quote} Thank you margiyono, looking good in BT, especially with 2 way Martingale and signal_limit filter, let's see how it will perform in FT. In BT it performs best on GBPUSD, even with Tickdata from TDL. Thank you very much for sharing!
Hi Fuchur

Let us find the best way, if there are definite findings can be sought solution.

Low Signal (eg 0.5-0.9) if it is limited by Signal_Limit 7-10, the result is almost the same as FT. I try BT then I match the live chart yesterday, 80% the same.

Can be tried on M1 - D1


Good luck.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #389
  • Jan 14, 2018 11:30am Jan 14, 2018 11:30am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Hi Fuchur Let us find the best way, if there are definite findings can be sought solution. Low Signal (eg 0.5-0.9) if it is limited by Signal_Limit 7-10, the result is almost the same as FT. I try BT then I match the live chart yesterday, 80% the same. Can be tried on M1 - D1 Good luck.
Interesting approach with signal_limit, so you could theoretically open 2 or more charts of the same pair, with low signal and signal_limit for sideways trend, and with high signal for news/high volatility.

When it turns out to be successful, will you also implement signal_limit to revo power?

Best regards
  • #390
  • Jan 14, 2018 11:49am Jan 14, 2018 11:49am
Quoting Fuchur
{quote} Interesting approach with signal_limit, so you could theoretically open 2 or more charts of the same pair, with low signal and signal_limit for sideways trend, and with high signal for news/high volatility. When it turns out to be successful, will you also implement signal_limit to revo power? Best regards
Yes, Revo is already there Signal_Limit from the beginning. Just disabled.
Now it is enabled as a parameter. Next I sharing.

Rgds
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #391
  • Jan 15, 2018 2:37am Jan 15, 2018 2:37am
Guys
Is there a FT with a negative result today?
I see today quite a lot of transactions, about 50's.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #392
  • Jan 15, 2018 5:45am Jan 15, 2018 5:45am
Quoting mrgmrg
Guys Is there a FT with a negative result today? I see today quite a lot of transactions, about 50's.
With signal 0.5 and signal_limit 5 on GBPUSD I had a loss of 60% on my demo account today. Thanks to virtual_pending there are no more errors in journal. Hedging both directions.
  • #393
  • Edited 6:26am Jan 15, 2018 6:11am | Edited 6:26am
Quoting Fuchur
{quote} With signal 0.5 and signal_limit 5 on GBPUSD I had a loss of 60% on my demo account today. Thanks to virtual_pending there are no more errors in journal. Hedging both directions.
Okay, Small Signal 0.5 with Signal_Limit how much?
Indeed with a small Signal impose, it should be limited by some conditions.

When viewed today's movement, quite fluctuating although there is no Red News.
Means if filtered Red News less effective.

As GJ is attached
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  • #394
  • Jan 15, 2018 6:27am Jan 15, 2018 6:27am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Okay, Small Signal 0.5 with Signal_Limit how much? Indeed with a small Signal impose, it should be limited by some conditions. When viewed today's pergarakan, quite fluctuating although there is no Red News. Means if filtered Red News less effective. As GJ is attached {image}
Signal_limit is 5.
Revo also had a loss on GBPUSD (signal 5), maybe the movement was too wild.

Yes, this is an example that a news-filter wouldn't be effective and probably not worth the effort.
  • #395
  • Jan 15, 2018 6:36am Jan 15, 2018 6:36am
Quoting Fuchur
{quote} Signal_limit is 5. Revo also had a loss on GBPUSD (signal 5), maybe the movement was too wild. Yes, this is an example that a news-filter wouldn't be effective and probably not worth the effort.
Exactly, due to frequent high Fluctuations without Red News. Otherwise not all Red News bad result.

I'll try to think about small signal filtering.

Standard GU with Signal > = 6 and Extended_Signal > = 3 or 0.
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  • #396
  • Jan 15, 2018 7:11am Jan 15, 2018 7:11am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Exactly, due to frequent high Fluctuations without Red News. Otherwise not all Red News bad result. I'll try to think about small signal filtering. Standard GU with Signal > = 6 and Extended_Signal > = 3 or 0.
What exactly does extended_signal parameter do?
  • #397
  • Jan 15, 2018 7:36am Jan 15, 2018 7:36am
Quoting Fuchur
{quote} What exactly does extended_signal parameter do?
It combines calculations from previous candles to get an approximate correction. If the content 0 disable second triger, the same function of SIgnal_Level. The longer the better.
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #398
  • Jan 15, 2018 8:53am Jan 15, 2018 8:53am
Hi mrgmrg, thank you for the thread. I'm trying to understand how the EA works. Please let me know what kind of unit do you use for the signal level parameter? Is it in pips or just (some kind of) range leveling numbers?
  • #399
  • Jan 15, 2018 11:00am Jan 15, 2018 11:00am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Exactly, due to frequent high Fluctuations without Red News. Otherwise not all Red News bad result. I'll try to think about small signal filtering. Standard GU with Signal > = 6 and Extended_Signal > = 3 or 0.
At least for GBPUSD small signal is too dangerous for me with Micro, although it is good in BT. Haven't tried with Revo yet.

With Micro I will try with higher signal to see if it resembles BT results. There shouldn't be any trading errors anymore thanks to virtual_pending.
  • #400
  • Jan 15, 2018 11:26am Jan 15, 2018 11:26am
Quoting Sutatong
Hi mrgmrg, thank you for the thread. I'm trying to understand how the EA works. Please let me know what kind of unit do you use for the signal level parameter? Is it in pips or just (some kind of) range leveling numbers?
Hi Sutatong
The signal is only one number, the formulation of the calculation results to determine the possibility of reversal or trending power.

Thak you
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
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