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  • #5,241
  • Dec 2, 2017 8:59am Dec 2, 2017 8:59am
Hey

what do you think about NZD/CAD?
can we buy yet?
it is very interesting!
thanks for your help
  • #5,242
  • Dec 2, 2017 1:09pm Dec 2, 2017 1:09pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. Our Euro trade today. We identified this trade on Sunday night pre-market open. I have posted our conversation from today as well. Please remember, this is no brag. Just showing what following a process can result in for an average retail trader. best wishes{image}{image}{image}{image}{image}{image}
Hi,

Reading through the thread, you posted a trade on page 58.
My question is, why were the areas A & B 'ignored', why did you TP deep inside A?
The A & B zones look really strong to me, definitely not to be expected to fail.

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  • #5,243
  • Dec 3, 2017 5:16am Dec 3, 2017 5:16am
Quoting Diego89
Hey what do you think about NZD/CAD? can we buy yet? it is very interesting! thanks for your help
Hello Diego89
Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to meet you

I think it would be more beneficial for you and the rest of the people in here if you shared your thoughts on the NZDCAD so people can give you constructive feedback.
As you know, it would not be appropriate for anyone here to give you advice here on how to spend your hard earned funds.
So please share your top down analysis and i am sure the people here would be more than glad to help

welcome again

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,244
  • Dec 3, 2017 5:21am Dec 3, 2017 5:21am
Quoting papabless
{quote} Hi, Reading through the thread, you posted a trade on page 58. My question is, why were the areas A & B 'ignored', why did you TP deep inside A? The A & B zones look really strong to me, definitely not to be expected to fail. {image}
Hello papabless.
Not that i remember the details of the trade specifically but i can say that my decisions as to entries and exits are guided by my top down analysis of the market i am trading.
As far as i can see from the chart, A was definitely not a level we would consider as a supply zone, it is not representative of the order flow patterns we look for. As for B, again it is a poor quality level and was possibly coming up against a big picture demand zone.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,245
  • Dec 3, 2017 6:14am Dec 3, 2017 6:14am
Thank you for all! I forget to post my tradeidea!
sry guys
The red is my risk and the green is my TP!
Daily Trendline is broken und a new Daily Demand Zone is created by take out a Supply Zone!
In Daily DZ i found this H4 DZ which take out more SZ and it is a fresh Level!
i think Price there can go up?
Iam very happy about FF and your free help! Thanks a lot
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  • #5,246
  • Edited 8:53am Dec 3, 2017 7:35am | Edited 8:53am
Hope you guys don't mind me asking so many questions. I'm currently creating my own trading plan and I need to clarify few things along the way. I'm asking here because I like this thread best out of all the S&D threads I've visited.

Here's my M curve on AUDUSD. It might differ as I have a bit different way of trading S&D because I learned from more people.

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I'd like to know how you guys here would treat the red zone.
Given the fact that it's the curve TF and the zone did not take out an opposing zone nor did it break momentum line, and does not even have a profit margin of at least 2:1, would you still not buy into it? Or would you continue buying on lower timeframes up to the orange supply with the trend and momentum?

I would still take it into an account on lower timeframes because it is a curve zone, but I'm not sure as to how I'd treat such a zone if it was on entry TF and in the way of my trade (I do not have much experience and so I do not know what to expect from such zone).
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  • #5,247
  • Dec 3, 2017 4:08pm Dec 3, 2017 4:08pm
hello,,,
quick question.....I am looking at bitcoin ,,,where would you look to short when theirs no reference( fresh supply levels) due to all time highs?
  • #5,248
  • Dec 3, 2017 4:11pm Dec 3, 2017 4:11pm
Quoting tony1200
hello,,, quick question.....I am looking at bitcoin ,,,where would you look to short when theirs no reference( fresh supply levels) due to all time highs?
In that case, all you can do is either buy or leave it alone.
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  • #5,249
  • Dec 3, 2017 10:57pm Dec 3, 2017 10:57pm
Quoting papabless
Hope you guys don't mind me asking so many questions. I'm currently creating my own trading plan and I need to clarify few things along the way. I'm asking here because I like this thread best out of all the S&D threads I've visited. Here's my M curve on AUDUSD. It might differ as I have a bit different way of trading S&D because I learned from more people. {image} I'd like to know how you guys here would treat the red zone. Given the fact that it's the curve TF and the zone did not take out an opposing zone nor did it break momentum line, and does...
Here you go Papabless

best wishes

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  • #5,250
  • Dec 4, 2017 1:38am Dec 4, 2017 1:38am
i think the series have been informative and very valuable. i would encourage you to continue if time and circumstances permit. keep up the good work my friend!
  • #5,251
  • Dec 4, 2017 2:56am Dec 4, 2017 2:56am
Good Morning

Thank you „Akt“ for your Help in the video!
My next Analysis for a Trade is with 3 Timeframes!
Sry for that by the NZD/Cad , iam new
Your help is very greatful!

How much cost your Webinar on the 16th of December?

Wish you a nice day
  • #5,252
  • Dec 4, 2017 1:19pm Dec 4, 2017 1:19pm
Quoting Diego89
Good Morning Thank you „Akt“ for your Help in the video! My next Analysis for a Trade is with 3 Timeframes! Sry for that by the NZD/Cad , iam new Your help is very greatful! How much cost your Webinar on the 16th of December? Wish you a nice day
Hello Diego89
No worries at all.
The webinar is free, there is no cost

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,253
  • Dec 5, 2017 11:56am Dec 5, 2017 11:56am
Hello my name is Gerardo I am new to the thread I was introduced by Rob I took a break from trading but I am getting back into it I attended OTA to only learn the core strategy but still haven't seen consistent results and I think my biggest set back is trend. Just watched your back to basics for trend was helpful just wish I could have enough for the one on one trading but will be using the thread to ask few questions and hopefully get them answered so here I have USDJPY and please tell me if I am wrong or what I need to correct thank you! I believe this market I want to go short based on the downward trend/momentum from the daily and then the 4hr I just drew out supply zones now I'm not sure what the criteria is for you to consider the zone a true supply zone to trade on so ya here are my thoughts thank you.
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  • #5,254
  • Dec 5, 2017 8:28pm Dec 5, 2017 8:28pm
Quoting Gerardo96
Hello my name is Gerardo I am new to the thread I was introduced by Rob I took a break from trading but I am getting back into it I attended OTA to only learn the core strategy but still haven't seen consistent results and I think my biggest set back is trend. Just watched your back to basics for trend was helpful just wish I could have enough for the one on one trading but will be using the thread to ask few questions and hopefully get them answered so here I have USDJPY and please tell me if I am wrong or what I need to correct thank you! I believe...
Hello Gerardo96
Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to meet you and thank you for sharing your thoughts on the USDJPY.

I concur with your idea and it makes S.A.D sense

Regarding trends, i think it may help to focus not on what has happened, but what is likely to happen when price reaches the demand and supply levels. Trend changes are more important than trends so if i may suggest, focus on that.
On your daily chart for example, if you draw your downward momentum line, you will find the downward momentum ended and we were left with demand below. The same demand price then wicked back into and rallied higher from.

So rather than being a setback, let the trend be your friend.

Welcome again

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,255
  • Dec 5, 2017 11:56pm Dec 5, 2017 11:56pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Gerardo96 Welcome to T.I.O.F Good to meet you and thank you for sharing your thoughts on the USDJPY. I concur with your idea and it makes S.A.D sense Regarding trends, i think it may help to focus not on what has happened, but what is likely to happen when price reaches the demand and supply levels. Trend changes are more important than trends so if i may suggest, focus on that. On your daily chart for example, if you draw your downward momentum line, you will find the downward momentum ended and we were left with demand...
What is SAD sense mean? Lol and ok I kind of understand what your saying about trend and I see the wick that came down and touched the demand zone but before that happen how was I supposed to know that, that would happen? The momentum was down so why look for buys if the momentum/trend isn’t up it was high on the curve so now OTA rules say high on curve intermediate TF is trend since it was down then on my trading time frame I follow the trend. Can you show me how you would Of anaylissd the pair as of now with the same time sequence so I understand what your saying
  • #5,256
  • Dec 6, 2017 1:06am Dec 6, 2017 1:06am
Hey Michael, thanks for latest video, sorry to hear you were unwell, but glad to see you feeling well enough to be posting and making vids again. Quick q, have been keeping an eye on the video channel since you said you were re-organising the library, but no re-appearance of the "trading the S&D way webinar vid". I was part way through that video and thoroughly enjoying and absorbing its content as a great teaching tool when it got pulled from the library. I notice one or two vids have re-appeared and appreciate your workload must be significant but wondered if there is any chance that particular video could be -re-instated next time you are doing some more organisation work? If you have decided not to re-instate or have plans to only make it available through some other 'mechanism' perhaps you could possibly let me know and I wont keep hunting for it lol Best wishes for you and all that you do....Paul.
  • #5,257
  • Dec 6, 2017 1:35am Dec 6, 2017 1:35am
Quoting Paulnz57
Hey Michael, thanks for latest video, sorry to hear you were unwell, but glad to see you feeling well enough to be posting and making vids again. Quick q, have been keeping an eye on the video channel since you said you were re-organising the library, but no re-appearance of the "trading the S&D way webinar vid". I was part way through that video and thoroughly enjoying and absorbing its content as a great teaching tool when it got pulled from the library. I notice one or two vids have re-appeared and appreciate your workload must be significant...
Hiya Paul
No worries. I am working through them. I have had some issues with a drive i have of the material but i hope to get is sorted this month.
Thank you for asking. Noted it down on the to-do list

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,258
  • Dec 6, 2017 3:40am Dec 6, 2017 3:40am
Hello everyone

Thought for the day...from John Maxwell

"People may hear your words but they feel your attitude".

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,259
  • Dec 6, 2017 4:56am Dec 6, 2017 4:56am
Hello,

I would look for shorts going towards Daily Demand.
is this accurate?

Daily Curve

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  • #5,260
  • Dec 6, 2017 8:37am Dec 6, 2017 8:37am
What are these 'chapters'/'trading institutional order flow series' and where can I find it?
Akt talks about it in his latest video at 4:10
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