Trading Institutional Order Flow

Hello T4i
thank you for sharing your thoughts on the EURUSD
here are some of mine

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Hello everyone

A long trade taken today on EURNZD

Target attained

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Hello krossaren96

there are many ways traders can exit a trade in profit.
Using set profit targets such as 2:1 or 3:1 is one such way

if trading a 15min zone, you can take profit at a 15min zone, for sure.

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Hello everyone

Some esoteric-ness to the weekend as we all get the rest and relaxation needed to go again come market open

The TRY/JPY.

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Your first post seemed honest.

Why have you been labeled as a commercial member?

That first line immediately brought to my mind Facebook and Google .

Thank You.

Here is another Idea on USDCAD.
I would be glad to hear some of your comments.

my Sequence is D-4hr-1hr.

Daily (Blue) momentum up is broken.
4Hr (red) I don't see any fresh demand zones is that correct?
1Hr (white)

Daily


4Hr


1HR

Eur/Jpy looks like very interesting!
Who think so too?

Hello, everybody!

I've got 3 questions. All regarding the rule of zones needing to accomplish something before they are considered to be valid.

Q #1



Zone B broke momentum line and zone A, therefore, is inherited zone.
Now, if the price falls as far as C from B, and then comes back to B, making D on its way, here, my question arises.
When setting up the trade, my risk is the B zone (+ some protection against spikes and not getting filled), that's obvious.
But when we talk about the reward, is it correctly drawn in the example? Will we TP before the zone A and ignore C & D because they did not accomplish anything (did not take out opposing zone or break momentum line)?

I'm asking this because in some of Michael's videos I've seen these zones being ignored. And it seems really strange to me because this rule has no effect on the orders within the zones that did not accomplish anything. If it is a solid zone (many good odd enhancers, shoutout to Sam Seiden) it does not matter if the zone accomplished anything or not, the orders are there.

I hope that it doesn't look like I'm trying to prove that Michael's style of trading S&D is flawed. I just don't understand this concept of zones needing to accomplish something to be valid.

Q #2

In this video (18:30) I don't understand one thing about your trade. It seems to me like you ignored a zone.



I added momentum line and zone A to the picture from your video, hope it's clear to see.
My question is, why was this zone ignored and you exited your trade way above the zone A. The zone was not yet broken, there are orders still left.
Maybe you have some kind of a rule that says something like: 'Take some off in tested zones and let the rest ride up to the closest fresh zone where the final TP is' ??

Q #3

This one is the biggest issue for me.
If we trade only the zones that did accomplish something (did take out opposing zone or break momentum line), where do we end?
I mean . . . we have '2 accomplishments' (opposing zone/momentum line)
so . . .

momentum line
when a zone is responsible for removing a momentum line, it's a valid zone, it accomplished something, easy.

opposing zone
But when zone '1' removes opposing zone '2', the zone '2' must have accomplished something as well, for the zone '1' to be valid. Because If zone '1' removes zone '2' that hasn't accomplished anything, it's like the zone '1' hasn't accomplished anything. That's how I understand it.

But here's the thing I've got a problem with.
If the zone '1' is valid, then the zone '2' is valid because it has either removed opposing zone or broken momentum line. And if the zone '2' removed opposing zone '3', then the zone '3' is valid because, again, it either invalidated momentum line or opposing zone '4' and so on and so on . . .

Now, from what I understand, I need to go far enough in my chart until I find a zone that has not removed any opposing zone but broken momentum line.
Do I understand this concept correctly? Do we always have to find the 'initial zone' that was responsible for invalidation of momentum line?


-peace

Here is another Chart.
question on entry. do I wait untill price goes into the 4hr supply zone and then look at my 1hr tf for short entries (1hr supply zones)?

GBPUSD

Daily


4Hr


1Hr

Dea T4i,
What I see. D is in uptrend, H4 up, H1 up. Why to go short? I wouldrather look for long at H4 DZ.
Regards

It has been interesting for quite sometime

Do you look for Short Entries too?

@Akt and others,

am I understanding this correctly, for example.

IF price reaches lets say Daily Supply zone THEN I should look at my entry timeframe (4hr) for shorts ?
on my entry timeframe I would look for supply zones that is nested in the Daily zone correct?

thanks in advance and thank you for your thread.

Hi,

Yes, your thinking is correct.
And, it doesn't have to be necessarily nested within the daily supply.
You can ride 4h supply zones down to the daily demand zone. But the closer you get to the daily demand zone, the riskier it gets and you're stacking the odds against you.

Hello T4i, You are not wrong at all, thinking about going Short in Entry Tf supply within Big Picture Supply. But what other SnD traders put into consideration is a Trend. As we all know, in an Up Trend, Price drops little and rally up more. Meaning, supply zones are easy to be taken out in an Up trend. So in this circumstance, SnD traders might not go short unless they have a decent profit margin in counter-trend trade.

I hope it helps.
Thiha

Dear T4i,
SaD is not just about zones. They give us entry points. But to make a decision we must have a clear trend on tree TFs or at least two with HTF in the direction of planned trade. There are more complicated trading techniques based on SaD but for very experienced traders.
Regards

@Papabless,@Thiha,@Yunvic,

thank you guys for your answers.
I forgot to mention the trend in my example downtrend and looking for entry in supply.

so the sequence would be (in my case)

Daily (Weekly) = Curve
4hr (Daily) = Trend (follow the trend)
1hr (4hr) = Entry


Regards

Hello again,

I have a feeling that my zones for the 4r and 1Hr are not correct. the zones are actually a pulback and not a base correct?

please feel free to leave your comments

Daily = Broken Momentum line and demand zone created.



4Hr = Momentum Up


1Hr = waiting for a pullback to the 1 hr demand zone for buying.

I took that trade also: