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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 9:41pm Nov 2, 2017 8:14pm | Edited 9:41pm
Hello to everyone,

Here you encounter an EMA-cross with the following trade conditions:
It buys when:

1. EMA-Short is greater than EMA-Long
2. EMA-Short-Pre-Period is smaller or equal to EMA-Long-Pre-Period
3. The difference between last and tenth last candle is greater than a certain value

But it doesn't sell. Too much fluctuations are turning the trades negative.

I tested it on H1 EURUSD from 02.02.2015 on every Tick. 83% Profit. 26% DD. 1.3 PF.
as well as from 06.02.2017. 36% Profit. 15% DD. 1.6 PF.

I would consider you don't use it for live trading. Never been tested on. More like a fun project. I don't know if it works on smaller TFs.

I am grateful for any suggestions.

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  • #2
  • Nov 3, 2017 2:48am Nov 3, 2017 2:48am
Quoting reeleer
Hello to everyone, Here you encounter an EMA-cross with the following trade conditions: It buys when: 1. EMA-Short is greater than EMA-Long 2. EMA-Short-Pre-Period is smaller or equal to EMA-Long-Pre-Period 3. The difference between last and tenth last candle is greater than a certain value But it doesn't sell. Too much fluctuations are turning the trades negative. I tested it on H1 EURUSD from 02.02.2015 on every Tick. 83% Profit. 26% DD. 1.3 PF. as well as from 06.02.2017. 36% Profit. 15% DD. 1.6 PF. I would consider you don't use it for live...

My suggestion would be to make EA also check EMA crossover on other timeframes align before getting into any trades. Add an account equity lock feature.
  • #3
  • Nov 3, 2017 7:55am Nov 3, 2017 7:55am
Thanks for the suggestion. With the higher TF EMA crossover it shouldn't be a problem. But could you explain what do you mean with account equity lock?
  • #4
  • Edited 9:28am Nov 3, 2017 8:46am | Edited 9:28am
Made the EA with extra higher TF cross. I took Point 3. (The difference between last and tenth last candle is greater than a certain value) out of the equation and activated sell mode. Tested it as my previous tests from 2015 and from 2017.

2015 test doesn't really work out with some various TP's and SL's. It gets way too negative, more than im willing to accept.
2017 test does work out. But the DD is pretty high.

But in 2017 I have to say by the higher TF cross more trades seem to survive through different TP's and SL's in general.
Seems to be an okay approach. Thank you for that!

Leave a note if I should post this EA. But it's not really worth it.

Next im going to use squeezing & expanding BB Bands, maybe to combine with the existing EA. However I pursue that approach above and post changes and EA's here.
After the weekend.
  • #5
  • Nov 3, 2017 9:54am Nov 3, 2017 9:54am
Quoting reeleer
Made the EA with extra higher TF cross. I took Point 3. (The difference between last and tenth last candle is greater than a certain value) out of the equation and activated sell mode. Tested it as my previous tests from 2015 and from 2017. 2015 test doesn't really work out with some various TP's and SL's. It gets way too negative, more than im willing to accept. 2017 test does work out. But the DD is pretty high. But in 2017 I have to say by the higher TF cross more trades seem to survive through different TP's and SL's in general. Seems to be...

Hi thanks for putting my suggestion to action, my apologies for not breaking it down properly.

The suggestion I actually gave is one of the ways i been trading. I have two profitable strategies with 2 ema crossover is one of them. If you look aat my profile you will see i have two trade explorers attached, one live and one demo, the live one is trading two ema crossovers and last month i had a 40% profit and not even up to a 5% drawdown, issue is i am doing all this manually, which made me interested in your thread.

1. Both EMA/SMA period numbers matter alot, depending on which you use for your crossover.
2. The timeframes which you use to confirm trades also matters for best results.
3. I can give you and indicator if you can apply to the EA this would serve as your entry and exit, with confirmations of crossover from SMA/EMA on other timeframes.
4. Equity Lock on account simple means let the EA automatically lock account balance at a fixed price target you aim for weekly and let it continue to trade. If its not clear we can schedule a skype call and i explain everything i mean and do a screen share with you to further explain better.
  • #6
  • Edited 12:35pm Nov 3, 2017 12:19pm | Edited 12:35pm
I forgot to mention that I used for the higher timeframes h4 and daily EMA's. As those EMA's are positively or negativly crossed, with the smaller timeframes EMA's positively or negatively crossed, the EA buys or sells. The pre-period EMA also plays a role, it has to be reversed.

1. Which periods you would consider for this type of EA?
4. Thank you for letting me know that you will be willing to share a screen with you or call via Skype.
i will come to that offer back one time..

I am currently not at my computer. So for the weekend.
  • #7
  • Nov 3, 2017 11:00pm Nov 3, 2017 11:00pm
Change de MA_lang to 365 and MA_kurz to 200 and try on 5m TF.
  • #8
  • Nov 4, 2017 8:38am Nov 4, 2017 8:38am
Hi at all. Sorry for my english. Probably this is not the right section where to post, but i didn't found nothing for my problem. i developed some EAs based like this on MA, but i have a problem. in the test the work great, but at the same point they start a little decrease. someone knows what could be the problem? and why all these grafic errors? attached you found the profit graph of EAs. thank if someone will reply.
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  • #9
  • Edited Nov 5, 2017 12:31pm Nov 4, 2017 1:43pm | Edited Nov 5, 2017 12:31pm
Quoting IlGiggi
Hi at all. Sorry for my english. Probably this is not the right section where to post, but i didn't found nothing for my problem. i developed some EAs based like this on MA, but i have a problem . in the test the work great, but at the same point the y start a little decrease. someone knows what coul be the problem? and why all these grafic errors attache you found the profit graph of EAs. thank if someone will reply. {image} {image} {image}
Hi, first of all I have to ask what lotsize you traded. Because my cost are 0.06 eur +spread per 0.01 lot per trade. If I would trade 0.01 lots 20.000 times, that would be 1200eur. If I would trade with 1 lot that much it would be 120000eur. Only the commission. That you have to clear up to us. You have to watch manually what's going on with that trades. With so many trades it gets slow..you have to wait and watch. And analyse of course. I don't know how good your coding skill is
For those graphic errors: There is somewhere in the forum a manual how to avoid that situation. You have to search for it. Or let a more knowledged person answer
By turning the spread from 2 to 10 or 20, you have it a bit closer to live trading. a bit Anyways, the EA probably doesn't work out.
Then I would forward test it. Then it's again a bit closer to live.

Thank you Eduardo, I will try it.
  • #10
  • Nov 5, 2017 10:07am Nov 5, 2017 10:07am
sorry but commission doesn't appear with tester. but sorry, commission is not a percent on profit?How to calculate?
Don't jump in the sewer...
  • #11
  • Edited 3:34pm Nov 5, 2017 1:04pm | Edited 3:34pm
Commission is also a part of a certain chart movement. For 0.06 eur per 0.01 lot while lot is 0.1$ per pip, you have to set a spread of 0.6 pips or 6 points. By Metatrader Stragy Tester the point matters. If i got it wrong, correct it someone please.
Now comes the spread which is greater during news hours. I saw once on my broker a spread of 150 points on EURUSD during big time news. Mostly i have 4-15 points. So I have to choose 10 Point in best case and 21 Points in the worse case. worst case would be around 150 That's why brokers have "up to 0.1" spread So be aware that it could easily turn your demo tested trades down.
  • #12
  • Nov 5, 2017 1:24pm Nov 5, 2017 1:24pm
Quoting reeleer
Commission is also a part of a certain chart movement. For 0.06 eur per 0.01 lot while lot is 0.1$ per pip, you have to set a spread of 0.6 pips or 6 points. By Metatrader Stragy Tester the point matters. If i got it wrong, correct it someone please. Now comes the spread which is greater during news hours. I saw once on my broker a spread of 150 points on EURUSD during big time news. Mostly i have 4-15 points. So be aware that it could easily turn your demo tested trades down.
Just got in from my weekend trip, alot of messages already. For spreads I will not take a trade which is more than 5points
  • #13
  • Nov 5, 2017 1:29pm Nov 5, 2017 1:29pm
Quoting ptradecalls
{quote} Just got in from my weekend trip, alot of messages already. For spreads I will not take a trade which is more than 5points
Ideally yes
  • #14
  • Nov 5, 2017 1:30pm Nov 5, 2017 1:30pm
In a long run, MA crosses will never work... Sorry.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #15
  • Nov 5, 2017 1:36pm Nov 5, 2017 1:36pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
In a long run, MA crosses will never work... Sorry.
I have read it many times However in Point 3. there could be like a little bit of edging. What is your opinion on that? So i will try sqeezing and expanding BB Bands. Is it worth the try?
  • #16
  • Nov 5, 2017 1:49pm Nov 5, 2017 1:49pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
In a long run, MA crosses will never work... Sorry.
May I ask what is long run for you in years?. In my books MA crossover aligned with price action works and i have been trading for 8years, 5 of last years being profitable using MA crossover. If you know what you are doing and looking for then you wouldnt say this, just my opinion no offence.
  • #17
  • Nov 5, 2017 1:51pm Nov 5, 2017 1:51pm
Quoting reeleer
{quote} I have read it many times However in Point 3. there could be like a little bit of edging. What is your opinion on that? So i will try sqeezing and expanding BB Bands. Is it worth the try?
point 3 is different. maybe it will work? it looks cool to me - as an idea. do not know anything about it. keep us updated, if you find something inside.

BBB will also not work... I know a guy who is making some profits on binary options with BBB. on real trading BBB is simply as useful as any MA cross is...

Quoting ptradecalls
{quote} May I ask what is long run for you in years?. In my books MA crossover aligned with price action works and i have been trading for 8years, 5 of last years being profitable using MA crossover. If you know what you are doing and looking for then you wouldnt say this, just my opinion no offence.
No offense taken. If MA crosses were useful, forex would have collapsed long time ago. Good for you, if you are profitable. I think your success is not based on the MA crosses you see, but it is more of you being a good trader, actually. You can trade just about anything, if you are there. I hope you get my point. Here the crowd looks for a solution, fast money making solution, that is automated and does not involve thinking...

I have played around for about a full year with MA crosses. Totally wasted time. MAs are wonderful, but not as a cross...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #18
  • Nov 5, 2017 2:00pm Nov 5, 2017 2:00pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} point 3 is different. maybe it will work? it looks cool to me - as an idea. do not know anything about it. keep us updated, if you find something inside. BBB will also not work... I know a guy who is making some profits on binary options with BBB. on real trading BBB is simply as useful as any MA cross is... {quote} No offense taken. If MA crosses were useful, forex would have collapsed long time ago. Good for you, if you are profitable. I think your success is not based on the MA crosses you see, but it is more of you being a good trader,...

Fair point and well said,
  • #19
  • Nov 5, 2017 2:29pm Nov 5, 2017 2:29pm
The value of the difference could also be dependant on the RSI or ADX. I will figure these things out tomorrow.

You said MA's are wonderful. Which are those situations? If you can reveal them
  • #20
  • Edited Nov 6, 2017 10:01am Nov 5, 2017 4:00pm | Edited Nov 6, 2017 10:01am
Made another EA with the following Buy and Sell conditions:

Candle 1-Candle 10<a certain value, Candle 1 -Candle 10>a second value Candle 2-Candle 11<a certain value and so on. Till the 20th candle is reached.

Basically I wanted take trades in low volatility phases. But you can adjust it how you like. It trades only a very few times by 0.0001 and -0.00005. Thats how high i set the threshold. Through cutting after 5th or 10th candle it could trade more though. By shorter low volatility phases. But the testing is a pain:/
Lot of the things that you can enter aren't working. Basically only the TP's and SL's and the Diffpos's and Diffneg's work, and the lotsize of course.

Could that be a starting point?

PS: That with an EMA/SMA cross works pretty good. Very good entrys on M5 so far tested in 2017 with the low threshold.
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